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    x1300 64mb and Vista?

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by jwl3429, Oct 20, 2006.

  1. jwl3429

    jwl3429 Notebook Geek

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    The thinkpad T60 now comes with the core 2 duo i have configured one with the x1300 graphics card with 64mb ram. The other option is a x1400 with 128and hyperthreading. The website dosen't say the x1300 has hyperthreading. That being said does it really have it and either way will it run vista? I am try to keep costs down and don't want to upgrade to the x1400 if the x1300 will run vista i will keep it. PS no gaming will be done on the machine.
     
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    It's not "hyperthreading", but rather "hypermemory" THis means that the x1400 has 128 mb of on-board RAM, and 128 that it can "steal" from the system RAM. It is a marketing ploy to make the card seem better than it is. The x1400 will run aero glass no problem--I have tried it on my e1505. As far as the x1300, it has 64 MB of dedicated VRAM and 64 MB hypermemory. Aside from the differences in memory, the x1400 is roughly 2x the card because it has a faster clock speed, among other things.

    I now have an x1300 in my t60, and i haven't yet tried to run vista on it--so I can't answer the question about aero, but I would image that it *will* run on the x1300.

    Both cards will run vista without aeroglass, so if the eye candy is not important to you, don't worry.

    On the other hard, it's always nice to have a little more card in case you decide you want to game at some point, want to resell the machine or future proof your computer.

    Cheers.
     
  3. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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    The X1300 will not have any problem running Vista with Aero Glass. Even the integrated Intel GMA950 is supposedly capable of it.
     
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    jwl3429 Notebook Geek

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    thanks, had somemany wrong words in there sounds like im an idiot, when i said vista i ment to say aero. so as long as it can share another 64 i should be good. on another note how is the size of the notebook i was worried even thought it is 14" it would be to big, what kind of battery life are your getting?
     
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    Well, "hyperthreading" is something so much better than this "trash" called "hypermemory". Anyway, not you but the GPU manufacturers that use "hypermemory" in order to confuse the regular users are the idiots here.
     
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    The two technologies are not very comparable as far as I know. HyperThreading exists on NetBurst CPUs (Pentium 4, Pentium D EE...) and allows the processor to handle two threads simultaneously - it makes the OS thinks there are two processors. HyperMemory allows an ATI PCI-express video card to share memory with the main memory for use as VRAM.
    So, you can't really say what is 'better'. You may be able to say what is better implemented for its specific field (ex: HyperThreading provides a bigger boost to the CPU than HyperMemory to the graphics card), but still that comparison is pointless. The word 'better' is really hard to use with computers.
     
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    I like it, but then again I am coming from a heavy, 15.4 inch e1505. I went with the 14.1 sxga+ and couldn't be happier. I am getting around 3-3.5 hours with wifi on a brightness halfway. I think the x60 is nice, but a little expensive, plus no built in optical drive.

    However it is 100% better than my dell :D
     
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    When you need to take all that literally...and interpret in a humdrum way... heh I "really" "needed" "someone" to "explain" me that... :rolleyes: This is even not the topic here. :)

    HyperThreading does its job very well and it's never been used to manipulate the people...
    HyperMemory is rather marketing trick in the most of the cases...

    So, yes these technologies have different purposes but I can say that one of them is better for its goal considering the results. Especially, when both technologies are realted to the performance though in a different way. And so, HyperThreading is definitely better "liar" than HyperMemory, metaphorically said. ;)

    Quite Honestly, I would've never thought of comparing these technologies if they hadn't been mentioned in one thread. Actually, it was just on the spur of the moment and probably I just wanted to show how much I hate the usual "mystery" about the shared memory.

    The word "better" is really easy to use with computers when we're talking objectively about performance. The personal preferences and needs are something completely different. :cool: