x7800 or T9300 ES

I'm confused now after some research.

I've found the x7800 for 215 and the T9300 for 200.

Which is the better deal? I would like to replace the processor that I have in my signature. I'm looking for the max possible upgrade.

The T9300 being ES does that mean its multiplier is unlocked, and if so how far?

Thanks!

 

ES means it is an engineering sample
ES chips do not have an unlocked multiplier.

If I were to choose between the two, go for the X7800.

K-TRON

 

I would second that, go with the X7800.

 

The x7800 has an unlocked multiplier yes?

Any other reasoning behind this choice?

 

Only Extreme CPU's have unlocked multipliers. Your notebooks BIOS needs to be able to unlock the multipliers to overclock.

 

if you pick the X7800 just be careful on the heat output, i once had it on my 6831 but i was running too hot at 3.0. the t9300 runs so much cooler.

 

I don't mean to hijack the thread, but flipfire said only xtreme processors have unlocked multipliers

How then is it possible that processors like the P8400 (like mine) can be overclocked. I have seen this in a few ASUS laptops G series I think, and was interested in how its done, and if I could do it

 

So, would you recommend the T9300 over it?

I don't want my notebook overheating constantly.

My T5550 is at 1.363 volts and idles around 40*C already. :-\

 

That wouldn't happen unless there was a problem like a fan going out. Getting hot is another story, each notebook is different. My M1730 can handle heat much better than my M1710.

BTW, I vote you get the Extreme processor. Remember the selling of ES processors is not allowed by Intel. Technically it would be an "underground" purchase.

 

Oh k. I think I will then.

I'm just trying to make sure I'm making the correct purchase. I'm hoping this allows me to watch x264 with less problems and smoother gameplay.

I.E., I hope it's a big jump over my T5550. I know it won't be my Q6600 @ 3.2 (8*400), but I hope it's similar.

 

You use OC apps like set FSB or you do pin mods and the like to OC non unlocked CPU's

What are you going for? If you want low temps then the t9300 is hard to beat. Its a great CPU and will give you a nice preformance boost. The x7800 will run faster (2.6-3.0 ghz) but will run hotter and has less cache on the die.

Also its according to what you want out of the chip. Its fun to play at 3.0gHz, but if you dont need that you can run at lower clocks and get better tmeps. I idle about 30-34 degrees with my x9000 running at 2.8gHz and there is no noticable difference between that and 3.0. Though i only idle about 4-6 degrees hotter even there after undervolting

Either of those CPU's will give you a good gaming increase and will play HD easily.
Your real question is do you need faster clocks or cooler temps?

If your just using the computer for "normal" use then the t9300 is usually the better buy for most people, but if you need the clock speed then one of the eXtreme class CPU's might be a better deal

 

I run my PC's much more than the average user. So, I thank you for your detailed reply. "Dark Knight!"

 

There are two ways to overclock a processor: Multiplier, and FSB.

The vast majority of processors have locked multipliers. However, with a motherboard and BIOS that support it, you can still overclock by changing the FSB. My desktop's E2200, for example. It's a pretty standard 2.2GHz Core 2 Duo with a locked multiplier of 11x and FSB of 200MHz. I can't change the multiplier, but through simply bumping the FSB up to 246MHz, I now have the processor running at 2.7GHz.

 

No worries, thats why we're all here. To learn and teach

I had the same choice when upgrading. The t9300 for great preformance and AMAZING temps or the x9000 for AMAZING preformance and great temps.

I went with the preformance because if i'm not using it i can clock to 2.8 and shave quite a bit off my temps. But if i need the little extra the 3.0 is available (though its not noticable unless doing somehting heavily CPU intensive)

 

i wish i had the X9000 on my gateway 6831, that would be killer. but anyways, they are both really good CPUs. but i guess i always liked lower temp and lower power bill, hey every penny counts. but if your worried overheating you can always undervolt the thing. i have seem people with the x7800 go to about 1.175, i have my t9300 at .9875 volts. it maxs out at 52C.

 

mine went to 1.13

 

If you undervolt it and it will no longer post.. how do you clear cmos on a notebook?

 

It will always post, only desktops will need to be cleared because its done through the BIOS.

RMclock is windows based, so it doesnt actually take effect till windows loads.

 

Thank you!

 

This issue has been raised before many times.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=206405
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?p=3019184#post3019184

it looks like T9300 is a better choice as it is better than X7800 in default clocks.
I bought mine new (T9300 from T7300, laptop much cooler and faster even in games) from ebay £120 plus £5 postage. I am sure you will find in the end a good price for a genuine T9300 or even a T9500.
X7800 can be very expensive.