x9000 cpu engineering version

Hey there, I just recently bought an Intel Core2 Extreme X9000 SLAQJ SLAZ3 Socket P 1066Mhz. I wanted to upgrade the cpu in my Gateway P-6860fx, but because this is an engineering version (as the seller told me afterward) and it had 1066Mhz instead of 800Mhz (what the 6860 requires) I can't use it. At this point, shipping it back for a refund is going to cost around $80 (to china) which is rediculous, so I'm probably going to try and sell it back. I have a couple of questions though:

1) how much is this chip worth? (I'd rather not say how much I paid at this point)

2) What computer WOULD except this chip?

3) would anyone be interested in it?

Since I'd be losing money by returning it (I learned a lesson from this whole mistake) I'd rather sell it to someone in the States and be out less money.

My email is [email protected]

Thanks in advance.

 

I've never heard of an x9000 engineering sample with a 1066mhz bus speed. The seller could be wrong. I think he is. If it really is 1066MHz, then it will just down clock to 800MHz. It should work fine.

 

It worked fine in this instance.... are you sure it's not an issue of a simple BIOS update? BTW, the ES silicon from Intel can't be sold on here. It's against forum rules, but that's not to say someone MIGHT be interested.

Edit: I just read through that whole thread, and it seems there was some debate as to whether it was an ES or Retail chip... either way it should work. ES isn't THAT much different from retail usually.... The only real bugs I know of are the temp sensors not working.

 

Is it really SLAQJ SLAZ3 or Q174 Q196 even Q4GY?

 

It is a Q4JJ model. I have never heard of a X9000 with 1066MHz fsb. http://forum.notebookreview.com/gateway-emachines/492711-6860fx-x9000-wont-boot.html

 

ahh... Q4JJ is T9600@ 2.8G with 1066FSB, not X9000. T9600 will not post on a PM965 Motherboard.

 

Ahh so that ebay seller lied in more than one way.

 

Intel® Core2 Extreme X9000 SLAQJ SLAZ3 Socket P 1066Mhz - eBay (item 150450564225 end time Jun-11-10 23:30:33 PDT)

If you scroll to the bottom of this link, it shows an image of cpu-z posted by the seller. Is this information incorrect and this IS a T9600, because it shows it as the x9000? I am so confused at the moment. I apologize for seeming ignorant on this stuff, but I'm just not sure what information to trust, and really just wanna get rid of this chip and be honest about it (for whomever I sell it to). Also, there are pictures of the chip itself. Can you tell from these what model it is? Thanks in advance.

 

Don´t buy that, he uses a old version of CPU-Z so it cannot read the correct name. AND this one also don´t have temperature sensor.

 

Maybe you should look here:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/gateway-emachines/492711-6860fx-x9000-wont-boot.html

 

No that is wrong.

Probably any computer with the mobile express series 4 chipset (GL40, GS45, GM45, PM45).

 

Are you sure?
Once I put a t7300 in a laptop that has a 667MHz bus speed. The t7300 has an 800MHz bus speed. I used the Intel Processor Identification utility and it said 667MHz.

 

Sorry I mean no CPU that has a 1066mhz FSB will work with the PM965 chipset, it wont downclock it just wont work at all.

Sure with other chipsets and other CPUs you may get downclocking.

 

only with 45 series ones.. i smell something fishy.

 

There is no 'standard' for ES (engineering sample) CPUs. They can come out with any missing or inoperative feature you can imagine. They may or may not clock properly, they may or may not be recognized by chipsets or BIOSii.

China is quietly famous for relabeling chips including CPUs as something that they are not. A few years back there was a huge incident regarding factory reject Pentium 4 cpus that were 'saved' from destruction, relabeled as 'good' chips, and then sold in counterfeit retail packaging in both the US and EU.

It is against Intels policies for people to resell ES samples be they cpus, wireless cards or whatever. I don't know why the mods here even allow discussion of ES cpus. They are quick to shut down Hackintosh threads for much the same reason, violating the manufacturers EULA.

 

Thanks for the feedback guys.
As far as getting a chip that works, I've been looking around and it seems that the x9000 is pretty rare, since I can't really find it anywhere. There are some x7900's like this one Intel® Core?2 Extreme Mobile Processor X7900 QZDX New - eBay (item 180520955279 end time Jun-24-10 20:27:54 PDT) but I'm skeptical of that one since it's from china as well, though the price is good...at the moment i'm trying to decide if I should get a T9300/500 or an x7900.

 

newposter I agree with the content of your post. I would only add that as a matter of opinion and I am not a lawyer. The selling of fraudulently labeled, no right too sell, and more; is a greater legal transgression than violating a EULA. I would accept disagreement but? One is an intellectual property crime, the other physical property. One appears to be handled with civil litigation the other if handled would be criminal. Archaic legal system? Yea sure.

On NBR's defense and yes I would call it a stretch. If NBR has been put on notice on one issue but not the other of course they must act accordingly. If Apple wants to enforce their property rights and they do. And Intel does not so be it.

Policy on this and other forums does amuse me. But the MOD's are not lawyers so give them a break. Then again does not take a great mind to comprehend ES are not legal to sell. I used to buy record albums clearly stamped not for sale from small record shops. Back in the day. It is a slippery slope.

That said I have some great doors from a 69 Cammaro I stole, I will ship for free. Any takers?

If that gets me infracted or I get any takers I give up on the common sense of this entire site and the members looking for doors.

 

Might be different, but the T9600ran fine in my 7805. Different chipset?

 

Yes your 7805 uses the newer chipset (PM45) that supports a 1066mhz FSB.

 

I would go for a t9300/500 over a x7800/900.

 

Me 2.
10 charac.

 

is there any particular reason why the t's over the x's? I thought they x series was better.

 

The X7xxx series are 65nm VS 45nm for the T9300/500. The X7xxxs will run hotter and have less L2 cache. Extreme CPUs are only worth it of you are going to overclock and the X7xxx will run hot at stock clocks so I don't think you are going to oc that high if at all.

 

considering you have the same computer as I do, how did you manage to overclock it so much, by undervolting I assume? I'm still looking at the x9000 as well, if i can find one, so I'm assuming that chip is better than the t9300/500? If it DOES come down to the x7900 vs the t9300/500, then I will take your advice and buy the latter. But that's IF i can't find an x9000..which, like i said before, seem scarce.

 

I actually have a high overclock because of overvoltiong. The X9000 is basically a T9300/500 that can be overclocked. The X9000 has allways been somewhat rare thats why the price hasn't really come down.

 

I custom upgraded my m17x to a t9900 and took out the p8600 that it had. The P8600 was only used for 5 days. It has been sitting sealed up since then unused in 100% perfect like brand new condition. If you were interested I would cut you a nice deal on the P8600 as I no longer need to keep it for warranty service purposes as I am selling the laptop tomorrow. Specs are as follows:

SPECIFICATIONS
Essentials
Status Launched
Launch Date Q3'08
Processor Number P8600
# of Cores 2
# of Threads 2
Clock Speed 2.4 GHz
L2 Cache 3 MB
Bus/Core Ratio 9.0
FSB Speed 1066 MHz
FSB Parity No
Instruction Set 64-bit
Embedded Options Available No
Supplemental SKU No
Lithography 45 nm
Max TDP 25 W
VID Voltage Range 1.050V-1.150V
1ku Bulk Budgetary Price $209.00

Package Specifications
TJUNCTION 105°C
Package Size 35 mm x 35mm
Processing Die Size 107 mm2
# of Processing Die Transistors 410 million
Sockets Supported BGA479, PGA478
Halogen Free Options Available Yes

Advanced Technologies
Intel® Turbo Boost Technology No
Intel® Hyper-Threading Technology No
Intel® Virtualization Technology (VT-x) Yes
Intel® Trusted Execution Technology Yes
Intel® 64 Yes
Idle States Yes
Enhanced Intel® Speedstep Technology Yes
Intel® Demand Based Switching No
Execute Disable Bit Yes

It requires either BGA 479 or PGA 478 sockets. If you have one of these sockets this chip would work for you. It's also only 25 watts very light on power usage much less then the extreme series. I would sell it hella cheap just pm me.

 

NO the P8600 will not work in the 6860 FX because of the 1066Mhz FSB.

 

Ebay is full of unscrupulous charlatans that will go to any means to take your money. Not to say that they're all bad, but the site could still use a lot more policing. That's something I think the owners and honest vendors alike should be concerned with.

On the other hand, the majority of the things I've gotten from the site work just as promised.

 

To should have also looked closer before buying it. I' never saw the x9000 with 1066Mhz, so I thought it was a typo and admit to making an error. As for it being a T9600, this is what their response was:

"hello ,thank you for your message , in fact , Q4JJ is T9600 ,right , but when we run "CPUZ" it shows it is X9000 1066MHZ , so we have two list , both are Q4JJ , but one is for T9600 , another is for X9000 1066MHZ ; anyway , you can ship by airmail ,it is cheap , or keep the cpu and I refund you some money for my mistake, is it ok ? thank you for your understanding."

The same seller has this for sale:
Intel Core2 DUO Penryn T9500 2.6G 6M SLAYX Socket P CPU - eBay (item 150451427036 end time Jul-03-10 10:35:07 PDT)

..so I think I may just ask for an exchange, with a refund for the difference. I have another question though: when I was looking for prices elsewhere, I saw the same chip for $700+ that said SLAQH, rather than SLAYX. What's the difference?

 

Why would you buy a early ES version without temp sensors.....QS is a better choice.

 

err..dunno if that answered my question. Anyway, I figure I might as well get a t9300, since the t9500 is normally about 50$ more which for 0.1gHz more doesn't seem worthwhile. My only question is this: what is the difference between SLAYY, SLAZB, SLAQG, and SLAPV?

 

Those are all OEM versions and there shouldnt be a big difference. I wouldnt buy from that ebay seller, that T9500 that you linked is an ES also but he tries to make you think its OEM.

 

Yeah, after this last experience, I wasn't going to buy from them again, but rather this person Intel SLAQG 2.5GHz Core 2 Duo Mobile T9300 2.50/6M/800 - eBay (item 200484184852 end time Jul-16-10 05:14:27 PDT)

Seems reasonable. Btw, thanks for all the feedback and the quick responses Erik, you've been really helpful

 

That ad looks ok to me. Only problem is that it doesn't have a pic of the actual CPU you will recieve but that seller has 100% feedback and has sold 18,000+ items so it might not be a big deal. You also don't have to order from China.