HP EliteBook 8560w Dreamcolor vs Non-Dreamcolor

Well, I turned on my old NEC 20WGX2 and that doesn't have this effect at all. And that is considered by many to be the best 20" IPS panel ever made .

 

Another way is to grab a window and move it around, and you'll clearly see the grainy layer. The sparkling effect is the same as if you moisten an LCD screen with a cloth, indicating that the problem is caused by light deflecting the anti glare layer. Or as my son says, the screen looks sweaty.

My screen also presents itself as LGD0220, but there may be different productions I guess.

 

Do that, so they know, but I think they will say that the sparkle is part of the IPS technology, since some external monitors have it too.

But everyone should have the option to compare as I did, I'll bet that most people would choose the non-Dreamcolor, even if it does have better viewing angles.

When working and looking at the screen properly, the non-Dreamcolor looks better for me and most other people that looked at it while I tested.

 

I am not an expert in this field, but IPS screens on iPads and highend Macs are completely sparkle free in my eyes, so I suspect the antiglare layer. Also, reading posts in this forum the LG panels in general have more aggressive AG than others.

So the "defect" in this matter is selling IPS with an AG coating that is not optimized for IPS panels. Until they have a better solution, they should have only sold a glossy version for people who wants an undistracted dreamcolor monitor, and antiglare editions of the TN models.

So far I've found that the grain and sparkle can be reduced by adjusting color temp to 7-8500 and lowering the luminance, but it still doesnt get close to the clarity of a standard TN or glossy IPS panels. Viewing distance is another factor, the longer distance less a problem, but of course a notebook requires closer viewing distance than a desktop monitor, so comparing with larger desktop IPS screens with the same problem is not that relevant..

Anyway, you are probably right, switching to a non-dc model is a better solution for us that are annoyed by the problem..

 

Not sure about the coating, I do remember that the Dreamcolor was not as antiglare as the normal full HD screen, and the normal full HD screen didn't have the grain at all, so it must be the IPS technology itself, I don't know, we would need to ask the experts, someone must know about this.

 

Well, whether the coating or not is to blame, the sparkle is much more imminent compared to all other glossy versions I've seen. But it might be other factors such as different IPS technologies I suppose.

Anyway, since using my 8560W DC screen for some weeks now, I've become accustomed to the glare. It is really a matter of "looking thru" the coating and not focusing on the issue Instead I've gotten to appreciate the richer colors and contrasts compared to my colleagues non-DC versions.
So, its not a perfect world and the good thing is that the IPS engineers out there still have some work to do for future versions..

 

Hello everyone.

I just received my 8560w with Dreamcolor last week. So far I'm loving this laptop, the build quality is much better than my previous Macbook Pro and the screen is just AWESOME!.

Now concerning the pearly effect on the screen, I think this issue applies in many IPS display screens. For example: my Dell Ultrasharp 2005WFP and 2007WFP have the same pearly effect on screen. (Coincidentally, both panels are manufactured by LG too).

I think the main culprit in this problem is in the anti-glare coating (too strong?), NOT the panel itself.

 

If you fill your screen completely red, green or blue, does the pearly effect differ when using these different colors?

The DreamColor on the 17" 8760w has no pearly effects at all, it's the opposite, it's extremely sharp.

 

How can it be the coating, when the non-Dreamcolor doesn't have this problem and is actually less reflective than the Dreamcolor panel ?

 

Is it possible to upgrade from the non-dreamcolor FHD (AUO13ED) screen to the Dreamcolor (LGD0220)?

On the other hand can the AUO13ED (AUO B156HW01 V3) be swapped out with a AUO B156HW01 V7? The V7 is no Dreamcolor but is a much cheaper option and looks like a nice upgrade if it's compatible.

 

According to my limited experience with business class laptops (one Dell Precision M4400, one M4500 and now I'm currently using M4600), LG panels in all of these were grainy, from very annoying grain on M4400 to more subtle on the most recent model. Also I had another M4400 but with Samsung panel and there was no grain at all, on the other hand if I recall well brightness and contrast were lower.

 

Well the AG coating seems to depend on the manufacturer and the model (exactly how much you notice it depends on a person, but it seems that it depend on the pixel size, as well).

Details of anti-glare sparkle on IPS screens? - Page 2 - [H]ard|Forum

 

Well, in any case, pixel size should be the same for the non-dreamcolor and dreamcolor, since the screen resolution is the same for the full HD panel.

 

If i buy Non-Dreamcolor version it is possible to switch to dreamcolor in HP service? Of course i will pay. Anyone know the price it is cost-effective or better buy Dreamcolor at once?

 

Buy the Dreamcolor with the laptop. Dreamcolor models are about $450 more with the laptop. The part cost of the Dreamcolor is $1200 individually.

 

Hi, I have another question concerning the IPS-screen of the 8560w Elitebook:

my 8560w has a color-problem at the left down side corner, I can see two oval-like clouds which come out of the corner and go along the edges. To the top, its green, and to the right, its red (or magenta).
Is this an known problem of the LED backlight or is it a defect? Are the LEDs of the IPS-version at the left down corner and produce these false-colors?

The Elitebook is brand new and I'm thinking of returning it to the seller... or will HP replace the screen when I report the problem? So many questions...

Thank you for your answers, Latti

 

It shouldn't look like that, I would ask for a replacement...no doubt.

 

Dear Guys,

Can you please advise if the HP 8560W Dreamcolor display is a glare glossy type screen or a matte screen?

Do you recommend to order a dreamcolor screen?

Thank you in advance,

Regards,

 

It's matte.

I love my DreamColor screen, and if you have the money, I certainly wouldn't advise against it.

 

It's matte.

Read my review about the screen, I didn't like it because of the grain, hopefully HP has fixed the issue since then...

 

Same here. I'm now a happy camper with this one, super crisp, anti-glare, deep blacks, perfect whites. Not wide gamut but still very impressive.

 

I would like to know if they are interchangeable too (if you are willing to buy the display of course)

I found a good deal on an non dreamcolor display 8560w, but I want to know if in the future if I can swap it out for a dreamcolor? If you can I will probably order the one I found. So please let me know if it's possible, thanks.

 

Buy at once.

Dreamcolor through HP is more than $1k.

 

Someone already suggested that earlier in the thread. I just want to know if it's possible to swap it out later.

 

hello
i have hp 8560w and hp 8540w and i don t like the noise in the screen of hp 8560w and the screen is hot
no problem with screen of hp 8540w .so can i replace the two screen
thank you

 

From the description I think I know what's going on with 8570's. Matte finishes are made by 'roughening up' the surface of the screen at a microscopic level. The finish of the surface is still glossy, but it has pits which scatter reflected light reducing glare. From the descriptions of this graininess it sounds like the roughening is more like raised dots, maybe mushrooms, made a little too large. These would act as lenses, and as you move back and forth they will magnify the RGB LEDs one at a time.

Am I gathering correctly that the DC screen on 8770's does -not- have this grainy problem?

 

Yes, the grain on the 8560W DC2 screens is way too aggressive (IMO - some other people think it's fine, I just think it ruins, not just tarnishes, what would otherwise be a beautiful display). The 8760W DC2 screen (LP173WF3-SLB-X) doesn't suffer from this, the 8770W display (as far as I know) uses the same display, so there should be no issue.

 

I have the the 8560w with Dreamcolor panel and can confirm the annoying grainy screen... but what bothers me the most are the COLORS am I the only one thinking the colors aren't as natural as they should be? for example the red looks too much ''orangey'', the blue is too dark, the green is too light and overall too much dark contrast...

 

As I ponder getting a DreamColor, I am wondering exactly what you are seeing. I have a Thinkpad T60 with 15" 1400x1050 IPS screen, a 24" NEC 2490WUXi 1920x1200 IPS monitor, and a MacBook Pro with 15.4" 1680x1050 TN screen. I don't see any sparkles of grain on either of my IPS screens when I move my head around while looking at a white background.