*HP EliteBook 8560w Owners Lounge*

It's mainly a students shop, but they sell to everybody:

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Yes, it was the preconfigured XUO84UT and it came with the back-lit keyboard that looked great, but did not work. The diagonal row of keys (3,e,d,c) work intermittently; others were messed up for a while. Tech support said the drivers had to get ramped up (?).

Sending it back, but there are no others in stock yet. Several places have the 85UT in stock, but do not see a significant advantage for the extra $200 other than I would finally have the laptop. Initially ordered from HP small business May 26 (!) but have not seen a thing (and found out from this forum that there were material shortages, not HP; very disappointed with their service) so ordered from PC connection.

 

I have the 8560w connected to two 24" displays through VGA and DisplayPort without dock. Both monitors display at 1920x1200.

When I open the lid on the 8560w so that the laptop screen is enabled the DisplayPort switches off. I tried various settings in "Screen resolution" settings in Windows 7 and there was no way to change this behaviour. When I close the lid again, the DisplayPort is enabled again.

Cheers
Johan

 

Thanks Johan, much appreciated. It appears more than one external display with the laptop screen enabled requires a docking station.

 

I think that behavior is also dependent on the gfx chip. A Ati gfx may be able to drive all three Displays simultaneously without Docking station. (Eyefinity)
I'm not sure a Nvidia chip can drive 3 Displays at once even with Docking station.

 

Could the people receiving the non-DreamColor screens for the 8560w confirm that they're getting the same AUO13ED monitor code? I'm just curious if HP is swapping some of the screens to the LG models like they are for the Dv6t. So far I saw one report of that screen in the mini-review.

--I've posted a new thread to track it

 

Hi,

I'm planning on buying the Elitebook 8560w (Prebuilt version LG662EA#ABH in the Netherlands).


Specifications

Intel Core i7 2630QM, 2GHz
Intel Mobile QM67
4GB Memory, DDR3 (SODIMM)
15,6", Dreamcolor, 1920x1080 (Full HD 1080p)
Nvidea Quadro 2000
500GB Harddisc, 7200rpm
DVD+/-RW DL
Windows 7 Professional
75Wh Battery


I'm planning to use the notebook for photo editing with RAW files in Photoshop and Nikon Capture NX 2. Also I would like to use it as a DAW using Ableton Live as my main sequencer with a lot of VST instruments and effects.

In order to use a notebook for realtime audio editing (I'm also performing live on stage) I really need to know about the DPC Latency of the HP 8560w. Only a system with low DPC Latency is useful for me to gain stutter free audio. I'll use an external audio interface from RME connected via an express card device.


Could someone please check the DPC Latency for me?

You can do so by running the following program:
DPC Latency Checker


I'm looking forward to your findings.


Kind regards

Sander

 

I just got the laptop, and I want to upgrade the RAM. Can anyone tell me how to take off the keyboard? I undid the screws marked "keyboard" on the bottom of the laptop, but the keyboard won't budge.

 

You have to take out the trim on the side of the keyboard...see the manual...

 

Does the 8560w have a slot for an mSATA like the W520 does?

 

No it doesn't...only the Dell and Lenovo have it...there was a WNSIB thread about it...

 

Hi Johansan,

Quick question. What are the WEI scores on you elitebook 8560w? Can you post a screenshot of the WEI scores?

Thx,
Marwan

 

Not even desktop nVidia's can run 3 displays at once. Exception only to those cards that have two chips in one.

 

Hi All!I need help from all you.I want know about Cost Central.How about service quality of this website?Why hp laptop on this site is cheaper Hp.com?Any one can explained to me?I really afraid if my laptop is bad.I from Vietnam.I will send money to my uncle and he will delivery it to me.So if it has problem,i only can cry cry and cry.I am student.
This is my dream

HP EliteBook Mobile Workstation 8560w (XU083UT#ABA) - Laptops / Notebooks

 

CostCentral is reputable:
Cost Central / Erie Computer Company - costcentral.com - Reviews, Ratings and Prices at ResellerRatings

They just sell the laptops at a more "normal" price, since HP just keeps their laptops at the MSRP and makes a LOT of money off of each one. So there is room for CC to make them a bit cheaper and still make some money.

 

Thank you so much.How many day to delivery one item to customer?Thank you one more time

 

There is the WEI for the XU083UT : WEI 8560W XU083UT

 

So sad because xu083ut in coscentral is unavailable?Who can tell me where i can buy it with price same coscentral???

 

When I called yesterday, CostCentral had 50 backorders with more laptops coming in on the 20th. Don't know if that helps.

 

Got my "85" today. (XU085UT)

So far so good.

Added another 8GB of RAM, swapped out the HD for a pair of 256GB Crucial SSD (using an optical bay caddy thing).



Keyboard feel is great. Quite a bit different than the 8460P I had prior. Mine IS backlit. It's a pre-config model.

http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/HP...ore-i7-2720QM-2.2-GHz-15.6in-TFT/2401936.aspx

 

I just about pulled the trigger on the xu086ut today, but hit a bit of a snag. Online, it says 2 slots for RAM. I'm pretty sure that's a mistake, as it should be 4 slots when with a quad, which the xu086ut has (an xu083ut with Dreamcolor). Unfortunately, the HP guy is telling me it's 2.

Can anyone with the 083 or 086 confirm it has 4 slots? I'd really like to upgrade from my 8440W to something with DC2.

 

Online says 2 only for my model also, despite it having 4.

That said though, I think it may be just two. The 86 appears to be an inferior model in all regards save the screen. Smaller, HD, worse video card, slower. It looks like they cut everything to include the DC screen.

I also think it will only take 8GB. When you compare the CPU in the 85 to the one in the 86, it's missing some important features, like VT-D, but also intel says that CPU supports only 8GB of RAM, when they show the one in the 85 supports 16GB. I don't know how accurate it is, but it goes in line with what you are saying.

Seems like quite a bit was stripped out on the CPU for the 86.

http://ark.intel.com/compare/52219,50067


EDIT: I'd also like to say that the screen difference between the non-DC2 1920x1080 on my 8560W and 1600x900 on my 8460P is enormous. I learned that it's not the DC2 or type that matters to me, just the screen itself. Those lower-res screens just look like crap no matter what. The 1080p non-DC screen is amazing in comparison. My 2 cents. I have 3 IPS displays at work and notice no difference between then and my screen on the 85, save the density, naturally.

 

Can you tell me where you bought your drive caddy? I can't find any that match correctly!

 

I'm sorry my friend, mine doesn't match either, but it fits. They say they'll have the updated caddy next month, so I'm using this one until then, from my 8440W:

2nd HDD/SSD caddy for HP 8560p, 8560w, 8760w [HP12-2BAY-8730] - $44.75 : NewmodeUS, Hard Drive Caddys for Notebooks

 

Hello!I want know difference between (XU082UT) 15.6" diagonal LED-backlit HD+ WVA anti-glare (1600 x 900) and (XU083UT) 15.6" diagonal LED-backlit FHD WVA anti-glare (1920 x 1080).
What about 2 screen?I usually sit front of computer 15hours/day.So what screen is better for me?
Sorry!my english isn't good

 

thank you so much,my english is terrible,so can you provide me more information.How about HP EliteBook 8560w Mobile Workstation (XU082UT)?I think i can choose HP EliteBook 8560w Mobile Workstation (XU082UT) if HP EliteBook 8560w Mobile Workstation (XU083UT) is unavailable.
This HP EliteBook 8560w Mobile Workstation (XU083UT) cheaper 200usd?Will i choose?Any one can help me?I waste 6 month to research about businees laptop.I have dream about toshiba tecra R840-R850,Dell Latitute 6520,Thinkpad T420-T520.But finally i think hp elitebook is best for me,it have international warantly and i from Viet Nam.Suggestions pls.....
Thank you,Everyone!

 

What monitor ID does it have?

 

From a previous poster who has used both the FHD and some lower res HP Elitebook screens, the word is that the FHD is MUCH better quality, even if it's the non-IPS version. So, I'd definitely go with the FHD over the lower res.

Also, if you spend that much time in front of a screen, make sure you set the screen refresh rate to the highest possible level, most likely 60 MHz. Your brain will thank you!

 

I just recieved my 8560w (2GHZ quad, Nvidia 1000, SSD, FHD non DC2) and have a big fan issue. Fan is always running on (probably) max rep. I honestly think that some sensor is broken.
Is there any tool besides "fanspeed" that I can monitor my temperature and fan speed?

Is hp cool sense working on that machine (i could not install)

Thanks,
Tom

 

Thank you very much

Can you tell me about price of your laptop? .Where you buy it?

 

I bought it at hp germany regular website; price I'm not sure a little bit over 2KEUR

 

Sure, I have attached it to this post.

Cheers
Johan

 

Hey, Johan, hows the battery life of ur machine

 

Regarding the fan noise. Mine rarely spins when I'm just surfing. I only had it come on audible when I was encoding 8 threads.

 

Good news! What are your machine's specs??

 

I received the XU086UT just over a week ago and I can confirm that it has 4 slots.

It ships with 8GB of RAM and both of the slots accessible by removing the bottom cover are unpopulated in shipping configuration. I haven't torn the thing apart to visually inspect the other two slots but by process of elimination they must be there.

 

Also, to add another datapoint to the backlit keyboard discussion, my XU086UT (with DreamColor) has a backlit keyboard.

I'm pretty sure that ALL of the 8560w pre-builts (for the U.S. anyway) have backlit keyboards. This was one of about 3 or 4 big reasons I was waiting for the 8560w over the 8560p.

 

Thanks for the info on your recent 8560w purchase. I was curious if I could find out your monitor ID?

Also, is there any chance you'd be able to run a 3dmark vantage benchmark?

 

Thank you.

Now it's just a matter of figuring out if I really need VT-d for my VMware Workstation usage. I'm guessing that I'm not really utilizing it now, as my C2D work laptop and my Athlon II X4 desktop don't have it. It'd probably be more useful on whatever eventual ESXi testbed I build down the road than the experiemental testbed I use VMware for now.



edit*
Hell with it. Ordered from Cost Central. Going to bump myself up to 16GB of RAM, X25M + 500GB. It'll be nice to have a single laptop that can do my gaming, personal work, etc. I can truly dedicate the GX620 to company work now. If I find I'm missing out on VT-d, then I'll just pick up a 2720QM for the same price HP wants to charge me to downgrade to no OS, no modem, smaller drive, less RAM, and a 2720QM, and I won't be stuck waiting a month like I would from HP.

 

Really interesting, then my device is surly broken as the fan spins like crazy!

 

Hmm, now that I have ordered a German 8560w too, I hope I won't have such problems ... I thought it would be safe to invest into HP. Let's see...

 

Anyone having problems with Windows 7 sp1 updating?

 

A slight additional perspective: HP sells pre-configured items to resellers at a deep discount so that supply channel will have the incentive to purchase in large lots, so it's not a question of the reseller being more "generous," as seems to be implied. Also, you can usually negotiate a 25% or better discount off the CTO list price from HP direcct, so if your sales rep isn't offering this, hang up and call back until you can get a rep who will.

Keep in mind: the main reason for buying from HP direct is the 30 day full refund.

 

Which some people decided not to take when there were major problems...

 

Just ordered with the German distributor Actebis via HP TopConfig:

HP Notebook 8560w
Intel Core i7-2820QM 2.3GHz
15.6 FHD RGB UWVA DreamColor
16GB (1x4GB) DDR3-1333
NVIDIA Quadro 2000M 2GB
BlueRay/DVD
HP 802.11 a/b/g/n I3 WLAN Card
UMTS (HSPA+ wGPS WWAN Card)
Carepack 3y NBD on-site

The 500GB HDD will be replaced with a Sandforce SSD (Extrememory XLR8 Express 240GB).

In addition a new Advanced Dockingstation and a HP ZR24w IPS.

Now we´ll see, how long it takes HP to assemble

 

Hello I am new to the whole message board thing, I hope this is the right place.

Well I just got an HP 8560w (XU086UT#ABA) from cost central yesterday and out of the box it has a fan not working message about 1/5 of all start ups. (Installing ~50 windows updates was great to see this error about 5 times) I have attached a cell phone picture of the problem at start up, just that screen and restart, then it may or may not appear. I had an 8510w for 4 years and I would not run that laptop, or any laptop of that kind, without a working fan. I did re grease and clean the fan in the 8510w what significantly reduces temperature.

Anyway needless to say I am trying to get an exchange. I called HP tech support last night, they told me to return it to point of purchase, took details of the problem and opened a case number. I emailed cost central (with HP case number), then called them and they keep telling me that they must wait for HP who told me to exchange it. Cost Central refused to give me a ship label when I called them today so the computer is just sitting at my house.

Can I get advice on how to deal with this? should I start calling cost central/HP to move this along this?

 

WOW this customer service is nice i got this email

Hello,

Your RMA has been approved for the following items:
1 x EB 8560W CI7/2.0 15.6 8GB-500GB DVDR CAM

 

My XU086UT arrived today. I should have more to tell you, but my wife was taking a bath when the FedEx man arrived, so I had to wait until the end of the day to go pick it up. I've only had it unboxed for a few minutes, but so far I'm quite impressed. Screen shows no bad pixels, but I don't really have much to say beyond that...it's still trying to get into Windows. I'll pull the drive, swap in the SSD and 8GB of RAM I have lying around, and reformat it tomorrow. Tonight will be for general testing, and getting this freaking 1600SC out of my living room. I really shouldn't complain about getting a free server, but this laptop is going to be my VM lab (with an IPS monitor because dammit, I want a good monitor), and I can virtualize a computer more powerful than this server.

Unfortunately, while it's installing 2003 Server, I can't hear any fan problems on the notebook over the 15K drives.


I'll do a followup tomorrow afternoon or evening once I've got it wiped and rebuilt. I'll toss in some pics of it sitting next to the 8440W that I'm going to have to sell now, and next to an MSI GX620 (15.4").






A quick update before I go to bed.
1. This screen has better color than my Dell U2410. Damn.
2. CPU runs hotter than I'd like, but I'm running a lot more on the video end than I used to. When it's working, the fan spins up, pushes out a ton of heat, and once it settles down, the fan slows down. So far, no complaints. I don't really expect the noise levels my old Asus G73JH put out.
3. Speakers aren't bad. They aren't great by any means, either. The SRS seems to help out a bit, but I won't worry about tweaking until tomorrow.
4. I forgot how much I hate ATI's driver support for their professional series. Want the latest nVidia driver for your Quadro? No problem. Want the latest ATI driver for your FirePro? Not happening. 8x40 and Mx500 are up, but nothing newer. ATI needs to fix that.
5. Backlit keyboard has no adjustment levels...but is a good brightness. Is there somewhere where I can change how long it stays lit for?
6. I love the touchpad, err, "Luxpad". I was a TrackPoint (TouchStyk) fanatic, but this touchpad feels great. I just need to train myself on how to use a 3 button touchpad that's about 4" wide.
7. The upgrade bay SATA hdd adapter from the 8x40 series looks like it will work, but it won't fit in it flush. I knew the angles wouldn't match, but unfortunately, it sticks out about 1mm from the side. Newmodeus should have the new one out next month...I'll be an early adopter.
8. Due to #7, it will be interesting to see how the CD works in the Advanced Dock. But, I have the security screw in place, and I'm too lazy to worry about that tonight.
9. The security screw to keep your access panel on is on the bottom of the access panel. I spent a few minutes looking for one in a little baggie like Dell and Lenovo did it, but never found one. The only reason I found it at all was because the screw head was red.
10. Not happy about the up/down arrows, but I voiced that complaint pics were first leaked.
11. Heavier than I expected, but build quality is phenomenal. Seems much better in the short time I've had it than the Precision M6400 and M6500s I run into at work. It might be interesting to have this thing glossy just to have a more fair comparison against one of our client's E2E M6400 Covet.
12. Best Chiclet style keyboard I've run into. It doesn't have the nice, warm, comfy, home-y feeling of a Thinkpad keyboard, but it's responsive, firm, not springy. I'm happy, it just needs to grow on me. Definitely preferred to my 8440W.
13. LED lights are thankfully smaller, dimmer. Unfortunately, the HP stays lit even when the screen is closed. I'd have preferred that be lit only when the backlight was lit. I do like how it looks like chrome when it's turned off.
14. I shouldn't feel surprised by this, but unfortunately, it was included with 7 RTM and IE8. I'd have liked to see SP1 and IE9 as I'm seeing some E5520 and E6520s at work with...but I can certainly understand and appreciate the decision to stick with the older stuff on a business unit, given all the portal issues I run into at work for sites that won't support new browsers.

 

I know this falls short of a real review, but it's what I've got right now. My customized 8560w (arrived July 11th and of course I wasn't in town to immediately unpack it. I already had waiting the docking station, 4x4GB memory chips, Media Bay HDD adapter, and the 2 Corsair Force3 240 SSD's. I had ordered a ProBook 6560b for my wife as well an it had arrived earlier, but I refused to open it and set it up until mine came of course... I mean, I had to! The factory 4GB chip from my Elitebook was going to her machine after all....

So, before I even turned it on, I cracked it open. I pulled the factory HDD (which I am putting in the SATA bay of the docking station for backups) and the optical drive. I tried to pop the keyboard and wasn't having any luck. I checked here on the forum and someone here said you needed to check the manual as you had to remove some trim (which is right to check the manual, wrong about the trim). The manual tells you to use pressure with your finger through the hole in the framework of the optical bay if required. I pushed the h$% out of that thing and nothing. So, I ended up removing everything until I did get the entire upper bezel off. Once I did, I pushed on the keyboard until it popped loose. Holy c$%... if I had known I had to push THAT hard to get it loose, I would have thought I'd break it!!! You can pop it loose, but push at the very top of the keyboard through the optical bay as they suggest, and focus the pressure at the top (behind the function keys). It will come loose, but it may take a LOT of pressure. Doing the full bezel as I did is a pain as you pull out a load of ribbon cables in the process. So, now I pulled out the 4GB chip I had from the factory, add it to my wife's ProBook, and putt my 4 new shinny matching chips in place. I then put the SSD into the HDD bay, mount the second SSD into the Media Bay adapter, and power up.

I go into the BIOS to make a couple of changes (turned off the "Fan always on when on AC", enabled VT options, changed disk mode to RAID (not IDE or AHCI), turned on the CRTL-I prompt, removed most of the boot devices, etc... I then saved, and went into the ICH config to set my two drives in a RAID 0 stripe set (128k), and let the machine reboot. At the point, I kept getting boot drive errors. To get rid of those, I just shutdown (not a soft start like I had been doing in the process of trying to diagnose it) and it booted up just fine. I booted from the Windows 7 Ultimate with SP1 DVD (in the DVD drive which I temporarily put in the docking station bay) and loaded Windows as normal (no special steps or driver preloading).

Now, here's where I cheated a little bit. Rather than download all the individual drivers, I noticed when setting up my wife's ProBook that it offered a SoftPaq that you don't see when downloading the drivers for the 8560w and that softpaq enables the machine to do online and get all the drivers for you. So, I took a chance and just loaded the "HP Essentials", chipset install, and the Wireless NIC drivers. I then loaded the Softpaq I downloaded for the ProBook and "Voila!"... it recognized my model and got all the drivers for me! So much easier! Now, one special note here... I did NOT load the Intel RST install. This is because of some of the reading I have been doing on the Corsair forums where people are having problems with these SSD's, and one of the suggestions was to remove the RST software. Since I'm on a RAID 0, and the consequence of a drive being down is simply is you're dead, I don't figure I need the RST manager to tell me that! ;-)

I have been running now for over 24 hours with no slow downs, no hiccups, nothing weird... except... when I tell windows to shutdown or restart, it never completes. I just wait until I can tell that it's done and then I use the power button (long press) to shutdown, and then start it back up.

The machine was already on the F.02 bios, and I was already running on 1124xxxx versions of the Force 3 240 SSD's (see the Corsair forums) so I decided to just give things a try without changing anything before I went all crazy applying patches.

I'm very happy with the performance I'm seeing so far. I'm running on the standard battery right now (I have the biggest/ultra secondary battery still in it's box) and it's saying I have 4 hours of battery left.

Here's some test data....

-----------------------------------------------------------------------
CrystalDiskMark 3.0.1 x64 (C) 2007-2010 hiyohiyo
Crystal Dew World : Crystal Dew World
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
* MB/s = 1,000,000 byte/s [SATA/300 = 300,000,000 byte/s]

Sequential Read : 437.453 MB/s
Sequential Write : 503.962 MB/s
Random Read 512KB : 315.217 MB/s
Random Write 512KB : 408.920 MB/s
Random Read 4KB (QD=1) : 15.931 MB/s [ 3889.4 IOPS]
Random Write 4KB (QD=1) : 80.774 MB/s [ 19720.2 IOPS]
Random Read 4KB (QD=32) : 250.048 MB/s [ 61047.0 IOPS]
Random Write 4KB (QD=32) : 277.234 MB/s [ 67684.1 IOPS]

Test : 1000 MB [C: 11.7% (51.9/442.0 GB)] (x5)
Date : 2011/07/22 23:13:30
OS : Windows 7 Ultimate Edition SP1 [6.1 Build 7601] (x64)

 

Anyone care to share their monitor ID to see if they're still using the AUO13ED?