So on the speakers, they're definitely loud enough, like all laptop speakers I've heard the bass isn't particularly great but you can easily listen to music on them.
On the Core i5/i7 bit, not too sure really, I'm planning to keep this laptop for a while and use it effectively as a desktop replacement, so I thought it was worth getting the best CPU available...
On the graphics bit, well I'm planning to do some 3d gaming, so it seemed like a good bet.
I did look at the 850 but trying to keep the overall weight down below 2Kg so 840 seemed like a better bet to me...
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No idea the difference in CPU. My model is maxed out because I wanted the 1920x1080p MATTE IPS display. Also because I wanted the Intel 7260 AC for AC wifi since I have that setup at home. If you get the F2Q28UT I'm sure you will be satisfied.
If you are going to get the 1080p IPS display and AMD GPU, you should just get that model instead of doing self upgrades. I don't see how it could be beneficial cost wise to do it yourself.
The HD4400 will not be able to do any gaming. If you want to do any gaming or GPU compute tasks or you want more than 3 displays (max with Intel, you can do 5 with AMD GPU) you will want the 8750M. Integrated graphics are fine for browsing the web and watching movies, otherwise they aren't very good, especially at 1080p.
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Does anyone know what brand / model the 180GB SSD offered in the 840 G1 is?
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Peter, thanks for the info. That F2Q28UT model does sound like a good deal, unfortunately I cant find it anywhere as it's out of stock. I do have my own memory I could use, and even an SSD I could throw in on my own, but was going to upgrade to the 840 Pro anywhere. However, if I can find that fully loaded model online without having to pay tax it might come out cheaper than the custom build.
By the way, do you know what speed ram the 16GB is, and what brand / model SSD the 256GB the system comes with is?
Also, Im working with an HP sales rep as he said hes going to give me a bigger discount than the website, but we shall see. In the meantime, if you have any suggestions on where to find the F2Q28UT model, please let me know!
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That is where I got mine at launch. There was a 3 week lead time for me but that shows 1-2 weeks if you order now. Pay the couple dollars extra for 2 day shipping, it's worth it. I also got the UL787E Care Pack. That one is 3year on site accidental, drive retention, and computrace lojack.
256GB SSD is Samsung 840 Pro according to Device Manager. RAM is 1600MHz 11-11-11-28 timing Hyundai Electronics brand.
The HP rep won't get you a better deal than this model. If you even get the same price some spec will be worse (whether RAM, SSD, screen, no AC wifi, etc). Your easiest and lower cost solution is the model I linked tohuntnyc likes this. -
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I ended up purchasing from ProVantage.com. $1832 + 8 Shipping with No Tax. $1840 out the door seems like a great deal so I jumped at it. It shows as out of stock, but they said it was a two week turnaround direct-ship from HP, which is the shipping time HP quoted as well as PCConnection.
Now, I just have to play the waiting game!Thanks for all of your help!
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It's actually stated in the detailed specifications documents. Acronym descriptions mine.
14" diagonal LED-backlit FHD anti-glare UWVA slim (1920 x 1080)
Surface Treatment: Anti-glare
Contrast Ratio: 600:1 (min)
Brightness: 300 nit (typical)
Pixel Configuration: RGB Stripe
Interface: eDP 1.3+PSR (2 lane) (PSR = Panel Self Refresh, a power savings technology)
Panel Type: IPS/FFS/AHVA (FFS = Fringe Field Switching; AHVA = Advanced Hyper-Viewing Angle)
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1. GPU
2. On-site warranty
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3. Appearance (enclosure color, and styling of outer lid)
4. The ZBook supports a second SSD in the M2 slot, while the Elitebook supposedly only supports flash cache.
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So I get access to HP's Employee Purchase Program through my job (no, I don't work at HP), but of course you can only by consumer / home office products at a discount, so the Elitebook 840 G1 or Zbook 14 are a no go.
Somehow I don't think there will be many deals on these anytime soon. However, I'm still not sure I want to spend ~$1500 on an "Ultrabook". Unforunately, there aren't a lot of options out there in the FHD (or better) matte screen without touch and no donglefest in the smaller / lighter side of notebook PC land. -
Backlight bleed is only at bottom of display. Only noticeable 99% of the time during POST/Boot. Otherwise you wouldn't notice it unless black screen with high brightness
Hardware ID is AUO123D or AU0123D. That's the only info I could find. Listed as Generic PNP Monitor in device manager. -
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I have the top of the line pre-built on order through Provantage.com, however I just came across this yesterday: Tale of Two Ultrabooks: Acer Announces TravelMate P645 Laptop and X313 Convertible | Maximum PC
Acer releases new Travelmate P645 Ultralight Business Notebook: Acer Announces TravelMate P645 Ultrabook: Core i5 Power, 1080p Display
Acer launches the TravelMate P645 ultrabook - NotebookCheck.net News
They have it at Provantage.com too for only $1260: PROVANTAGE: Acer NX.V8SAA.002 TravelMate TMP645-MG-9419 i7-450U 1.8GHz 8GB 256GB SSD 14" W7P/W8P
Main differences are Acer has:
i7-4500u (HP has i7-4600u)
12GB Max memory (HP has 16GB Max)
2gb DDR3 Radeon HD 8750M (HP has only 1GB, but GDDR5)
0.2 lbs lighter than HP
Wireless 7260n (HP has the 7260ac)
No trackpoint (which I don't personally care about)
All else looks the same, including 256GB SSD and FHD Matte 1080p display. I can even get the docking station cheaper than HP's (and has more ports).
Any thoughts on Acer, their keyboards, overall quality? Should I be considering this instead of 840 G1 seeing as its significantly cheaper for almost the same package? Or do you get what you pay for with Acer versus the Elitebook? -
I still actually have an ancient 13.3" 650MHz Acer Travelmate 602TER hanging around with a bad battery that otherwise still works - and has a functional serial port, which is still handy with some equipment. -
If you are in Canada, you are able to order the version with i7-4600u CPU. It runs about $1499 retail. That moel isnt in the US yet... not sure when either. Im thinking about just biting the bullet and buying through Provantage. They are in stock there, and have a 100% Satisfaction Guarantee return policy. I just would lose shipping cost if I sent it back. Might be worth $20 doing it to check it out. -
Well, details are pretty scarce on the Acer system. Does it have dual channel RAM? Is some of it soldered down? It's not even clear what ports they have.
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I think this is the most detailed list of specs I've seen (for the i7-4600U version)... though a bit disorganized.
General Information
TMP645-VG-9821 W7P64 ENG/FR W/W8P64 DL HIDDEN Corei7-4600U vPro(4M L3 cache,2.1G W/TB upto 3.3G,DDR3 1600M,15W)8GB DDR3L 256G SSD 14IN IPS AMD Radeon HD8750M w/2G of dedicated DDR3 VRAM Intel Wireless-N7260 DB,BTH4.0,gigabitLAN,webcam Fingerprint reader
Brand Name: Acer
Product Type: Notebook
Product Name: TravelMate TMP645-VG-74608G25tkk Notebook
Product Series: P645-VG
Product Model: TMP645-VG-74608G25tkk
Manufacturer Part Number: NX.V8TAA.003
Manufacturer Website Address: Acer | explore beyond limits
Manufacturer: Acer, Inc
Marketing Information:
The Acer TravelMate Series of notebooks features dependable processing power, wide-ranging communication capabilities, and indispensable security solutions to empower mobile professionals like you. Designed to keep your business running while you're on the move, this streamlined notebook boasts corporate-level manageability and convenient handling. An eco-friendly design and energy-conserving features help save cost, as well as the environment.
Battery Information
Battery Capacity: 4850 mAh
Battery Chemistry: Lithium Polymer (Li-Polymer)
Maximum Battery Run Time: 8 Hour
Number of Cells: 3-cell
Built-in Devices
Finger Print Reader: Yes
Microphone: Yes
Speakers: Yes
Webcam: Yes
Display & Graphics
Display Screen Type: Active Matrix TFT Color LCD
Screen Size: 14"
Aspect Ratio: 16:9
Backlight Technology: LED
Display Screen Technology: In-plane Switching (IPS) Technology
Display Screen Type: Active Matrix TFT Color LCD
Graphics Controller Manufacturer: AMD
Graphics Controller Model: Radeon HD 8750M
Graphics Memory Accessibility: Dedicated
Graphics Memory Capacity: Up to 2 GB
HDCP Supported: Yes
Maximum Memory: 12 GB
Screen Mode: Full HD
Screen Resolution: 1920 x 1080
Screen Size: 14"
TV Card: No
Input Devices
Keyboard Backlight: Yes
Keyboard: Yes
Pointing Device Type: TouchPad
TouchPad Features: Multi-touch Gesture
Interfaces/Ports
Audio Line In: Yes
Audio Line Out: Yes
Ethernet Technology: Gigabit Ethernet
HDCP Supported: Yes
HDMI: Yes
Microphone: Yes
Network (RJ-45): Yes
Number of USB 3.0 Ports: 3
Total Number of USB Ports: 3
VGA: Yes
Wireless LAN: Yes
Memory
Maximum Memory: 12 GB
Memory Card Reader: Yes
Memory Card Supported: Secure Digital (SD) Card
Memory Technology: DDR3 SDRAM
Number of Total Memory Slots: 1
Standard Memory: 8 GB
Certifications & Standards: •ACPI 3.0 •GS •Mobile PC 2002
Green Compliance Certificate/Authority: HSF
Green Compliant: Yes
Package Contents: •TravelMate TMP645-VG-74608G25tkk Notebook •Lithium Polymer Battery •AC Adapter
Physical Characteristics
Depth: 9.3" (235.5 mm)
Width: 12.9" (328.5 mm)
Height: 818.9 mil (20800 µm)
Weight (Approximate): 1.50 kg
Power Description
Battery Chemistry: Lithium Polymer (Li-Polymer)
Maximum Power Supply Wattage: 65 W
Processor & Chipset
64-bit Processing: Yes
Cache: 4 MB
Hyper-Threading: Yes
Processor Core: Dual-core (2 Core)
Processor Manufacturer: Intel
Processor Model: i7-4600U
Processor Speed: 2.10 GHz
Processor Type: Core i7
Software
Operating System Architecture: 64-bit
Operating System: Windows 7 Professional
Software Included: •Microsoft® Office Starter: reduced-functionality Word and Excel® only, with advertising. No PowerPoint® or Outlook®. Buy Office 2010 to use the full-featured software.
•Bing™ Bar
•Windows Live™ Essentials
Storage
Memory Card Supported: Secure Digital (SD) Card
Optical Drive Type: No
Solid State Drive Capacity: 256 GB
Solid State Drive Interface: Serial ATA/300 -
Yeah, this is the maxed out version with highest CPU. Not sure if there is that much difference in i7-4600u vs i7-4500u.
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840 pros other than what you said:
-1 more USB port
-Possibly no WWAN support on Acer
-Bottom of laptop comes off for easy component access with no screws
-Maybe slightly larger battery capacity (not 100% sure)
-HP support
Acer pro:
-NFC
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P.S. I don't do any hardcore gaming on my laptop. Just an occasional game here or there that isn't video card intensive. -
Looking to get the 840 G1 - probably the i7-4600U model. Unfortunately, there are not many complete reviews.
Has anyone run any benchmarks on this system? 3dmark? Passmark? Civ5, Diablo, BF3, Guild Wars 2, or Skyrim fps tests? It would be interesting to see how these numbers compare to the 8750M numbers on notebookcheck. -
So far no sign of any Black Friday or Cyber Monday related deals on any of the 840 G1 systems at any retailers selling them. I am sort of targeting the F2P20UT#ABA, but haven't seen any sales (so far) that might help.
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Well the Lenovo T440s just got a lot more attractive with their Black Friday promotion. It's now pretty comparable to the Elitebook 840 G1 config I was looking at. It is limited to 12GB of RAM since it only has 1 SoDIMM slot with 4GB soldered on, but uses the same AUO FHD panel and is pretty much equivalent otherwise. $1287.18 with 4GB of RAM and a 7200rpm 500GB HD (3yr depot warranty) vs ~$1500 for the F2P20UT#ABA. That leaves $213 for 4GB SoDIMM and a SSD to get them equivalent with the exception of the OS (Win 8 vs. Win 7 Pro).
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http://www.provantage.com/hewlett-packard-hp-f2p20ut-aba~7HEWW439.htm
Ive used them before and they are very good. In fact, they just shipped the top of the line model today direct from HP. I also ordered the Acer Travelmate p645 top of fully loaded for $1260 through them too. I may end up keeping the Acer though since its so much cheaper, but I will try both out and return the one I dont like. They have a 100% Satisfaction Guarantee, full refund (minus shipping unless its faulty). -
I saw the Acer, but I'm not sure I want discrete graphics. Unfortunately you can't get the FHD option without it. The price is better though. The non-Intel wireless and 2 year warranty are also drawbacks. Plus I don't know how rubust their business class machine are.
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Hey Guys,
new member here. from Canada. been reading your review on this lovely elitebook peter has. the F2Q28UT model.
I have been trying to get this config in canada but it is not available and the hp combinations for the new 840 are terrible. I have an option to purchase this through the US and physically pick it up from a friends house but it will probably cost just over 2000$.
My big issue here is the warranty. I've had the 8440w, and with the 3 year warranty I sent it for repair like 4 times maybe. So i am not so sure I want to send this to the US because that can be quite costly. Unless HP offers the travel pack as they told me.
Now i read here about the new acer travelmate TravelMate P645, It seems to have amazing specs vs the elitebook 840. just the major difference of the RAM.
Frankly, 5 months ago i bought top of the line ASUS ZENBOOK PRIME UX31A Touch. and sold it 3 weeks ago. terrible model for RAM, music, videos lag, no ports of any kind, dongles all over and though the laptop had a nice feel / build quality was not a machine given it had a soldered 4gb and couldnt get an upgrade. it just wasnt good for autocad but is great for a home user that doesnt have 50 tabs open at the same time as well as various adobe files.
I am confused now as to which laptop to purchase. the acer is nice, priced well, warranty in canada and canada actually has the better model. vs this amazing 840. I recently also borrowed an old hp pavilion dv6 from our office with discrete graphics, 16gb ram, 15.6 inch and having been a person who uses 13-14 inch notebook, I am enjoying this screen alot. even with all the travelling i am doing. I am really leaning toward ordering the 850 model with the same specs as the F2Q28UT model.
do you think their will be a huge weight difference? peter, what does your 840 weigh at?
Thanks guys for your opinions and look forward to your thoughts!
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Zaki, sounds like you have the same exact experience and currently thinking of the same options.
I was debating 840 vs 850 too, but I plan on being more mobile with this laptop, and the 14" screen at 1080p will be fine for me (Im used to my 14" work laptop with lower resolution.
The 850 is 4.1 lbs
The 840 is 3.5 lbs
The 645 is 3.3 lbs
... all 3 are lighter than my 5.7 lb ENVY DV6 15.6" laptop Im planning on selling.
The Acer seems like an excellent buy, that's why I'm at least giving it a shot. Most companies business notebooks are usually of higher quality then their consumer line and I've heard the same of Acer. I also like the fact the Acer has HDMI out, something not found on a lot of business notebooks... they even have it on the dock (which I scored a new one for $40 on ebay.)
All that said, if it feels and works like a piece of junk I'll keep the HP... just depends on which I like using better, better screen, touchpad, etc. Im sure overall performance will be very close for real world use.
Lastly StereoDude, where did you see exact specs on the wireless card? I havent been able ot find anything on the Acer yet. I was actually planning on replacing it with an Intel 7600 AC card anyways, assuming there will be access to it via the bottom panel (which I think there is based on a few images I saw.) It's an easy and inexpensive upgrade that I actually did with my current HP as well. -
Hello HKINGS,
Thanks for your reply. man the choices are too much here. I only learnt of the acer because of you guys. my only worry here is that acer, like asus, an upgraded consumer notebook vs the service i got from the elite notebook, the sturdiness etc.
Frankly, a big reason why i sold the zenbook prime is the mouse pad. Horrible, horrible, horrible. I cannot say it less than 3 times. terrible feels, 1 pad, and its hard to right click even after disabling all the features.
I am worried the acer is of the same quality. I really dont want to make another $1700 mistake. I sold this asus for $850 After 5 months. So I would like to make sure I make the right decision this time.
The weight isnt bad between all models but how sturdy are the hinges of each, which screen is better ? I personally dont like matte displays much though they are nice if you work alot on a computer I must say. I have no idea of the terminology you guys are using here but I am pretty good with LED/LCD/PLASMA TV's
I wouldn't mind doing the 15.6 model for the HP, although everyone seems to be going for the 14 inch. the good thing about the acer is that it is 14.6 which is amazing. you get the 15 and also the portability but who has tried this notebook. Is it true they offer a 2 year warranty. Also being from canada, the warranty locally is good vs having the take it to the US and back. But people seem to be raving about the 840 model with the 16gb ram, discrete graphics etc.. So i am confused.
Any reviews out for the Acer model ? the poster and the person responsible for putting me into this dilemma should help.
Thanks again for your responses.
I wish we could have gathered an order of 4-5 units, I would have had HP Canada specially assemble this for us. I spoke with them through my IT reseller and they said they could do this but have to have a minimum of 5 units on order for this factory program and the Unit would likely cost about the same as the US Model maybe a little cheaper but i never checked because I wasnt planning on ordering 5 units.
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Like the HP 840, the Acer has a trackpad with buttons, so it isn't like the touchpad on the consumer line. The HP does have the rubber trackpoint cursor though if that is important to you.
Also, if you don't like Matte displays. I recommend looking at consumer line 14" notebooks, HP and Sony make some decent units with great screens as well. This is my main machine for writing and I can't stand staring at my reflection all day, so I prefer matte on my main non-touch screen displays. -
The rubber is nice but not a neceesity. as long as the speed and feel of the mousepad is good, I am good. the trackpoint cursor is a no use for me, in fact, i broke it on my 8440w and never bothered to replace it.
The matte is nice, but I am ok with Acer's new screen.
So now I gotta find reviews of the Acer. I will think hard before picking between this and the 840 from the US. I really wish I can check out the keyboard, screen, speed etc. of the notebook live before purchase. not sure where I can do that. -
I just got quoted from my it re-seller
ACER TMP645-VG-9821 I7-4600U
MFG PART NO NX.V8TAA.003
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sorry this was the wrong model
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NCIX Canada has the P645 i7,8gb,256gb ssd with dgpu for 1,399 cad. But this model is not in stock yet and no indication for free shipping. However, I believe it should have free shipping once it is in stock.
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Hey ikaz,
Unfortunately I have not seen this notebook in action. I'm in the same position as you, a few hours ago I posted up a message in the acer forum asking if anyone had it already.
I am tempted to purchase it now, but still want to wait for a review on the unit.
I am confused with the wifi info too, on the provantage site it lists under additional information: Acer nplify b/g/n. However under the wi-fi model section it shows it as an intel wireless n-7620. -
if you write me a request for clarification in 2-3 lines, I can forward this to my it reseller and he can get us an answer from acer tech / sales. I honestly have no idea what the difference is / means. perhaps some can explain. and if you like, write me up a comment and ill copy / paste in my email and send it through to get us answers.
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I have the NX.V8SAA.002 (top of the line US model) on order and is currently enroute to me. I should have it by Monday or Tuesday next week due to the holiday.
PROVANTAGE: Acer NX.V8SAA.002 TravelMate TMP645-MG-9419 i7-450U 1.8GHz 8GB 256GB SSD 14" W7P/W8P
I will post my thoughts on it as soon as I have it in hand. I will have it at the same time as the HP 840 so I can do a head to head comparison as well and update everyone on the WiFi card used.
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