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    *HP Elitebook 800 Series Owners Lounge*

    Discussion in 'HP Business Class Notebooks' started by JayWalker7, Oct 4, 2013.

  1. raesene

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    So on the speakers, they're definitely loud enough, like all laptop speakers I've heard the bass isn't particularly great but you can easily listen to music on them.

    On the Core i5/i7 bit, not too sure really, I'm planning to keep this laptop for a while and use it effectively as a desktop replacement, so I thought it was worth getting the best CPU available...

    On the graphics bit, well I'm planning to do some 3d gaming, so it seemed like a good bet.

    I did look at the 850 but trying to keep the overall weight down below 2Kg so 840 seemed like a better bet to me...
     
  2. peter0328

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    The speakers get very loud but they are kind of tinny. Definitely not full sound and there is no subwoofer like on my old HDX 18. The HDX 18 has better quality audio but the 840 is louder.

    No idea the difference in CPU. My model is maxed out because I wanted the 1920x1080p MATTE IPS display. Also because I wanted the Intel 7260 AC for AC wifi since I have that setup at home. If you get the F2Q28UT I'm sure you will be satisfied.

    If you are going to get the 1080p IPS display and AMD GPU, you should just get that model instead of doing self upgrades. I don't see how it could be beneficial cost wise to do it yourself.

    The HD4400 will not be able to do any gaming. If you want to do any gaming or GPU compute tasks or you want more than 3 displays (max with Intel, you can do 5 with AMD GPU) you will want the 8750M. Integrated graphics are fine for browsing the web and watching movies, otherwise they aren't very good, especially at 1080p.

    I think the 14" had all the same specs as the 15" but a better screen. Not sure though but I would go with the 14" for portability.
     
  3. Stereodude

    Stereodude Notebook Consultant

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    Does anyone know what brand / model the 180GB SSD offered in the 840 G1 is?
     
  4. HKINGS

    HKINGS Notebook Evangelist

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    Peter, thanks for the info. That F2Q28UT model does sound like a good deal, unfortunately I cant find it anywhere as it's out of stock. I do have my own memory I could use, and even an SSD I could throw in on my own, but was going to upgrade to the 840 Pro anywhere. However, if I can find that fully loaded model online without having to pay tax it might come out cheaper than the custom build.

    By the way, do you know what speed ram the 16GB is, and what brand / model SSD the 256GB the system comes with is?

    Also, Im working with an HP sales rep as he said hes going to give me a bigger discount than the website, but we shall see. In the meantime, if you have any suggestions on where to find the F2Q28UT model, please let me know!

    Thanks again!
     
  5. peter0328

    peter0328 Notebook Geek

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    Buy it from here: Buy HP Smart Buy EliteBook 840 Core i7 2.1GHz 16GB 256GB W7P64-W8P Notebooks F2Q28UT#ABA today at PC Connection

    That is where I got mine at launch. There was a 3 week lead time for me but that shows 1-2 weeks if you order now. Pay the couple dollars extra for 2 day shipping, it's worth it. I also got the UL787E Care Pack. That one is 3year on site accidental, drive retention, and computrace lojack.

    256GB SSD is Samsung 840 Pro according to Device Manager. RAM is 1600MHz 11-11-11-28 timing Hyundai Electronics brand.

    The HP rep won't get you a better deal than this model. If you even get the same price some spec will be worse (whether RAM, SSD, screen, no AC wifi, etc). Your easiest and lower cost solution is the model I linked to :)
     
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  6. Stereodude

    Stereodude Notebook Consultant

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    Page 162 of the Maintenance and Service Guide for the Elitebook 840 G1 has the specs for the SSDs. The 180GB and 240GB drives seem to be Intel 520 Series drives. I couldn't find any other 180GB SSDs with the listed read and write speed specs.

    Edit: So it seems I was wrong twice. The 840 G1 I received has a 2.5" 180GB Intel Pro 1500 SSD. The specs for the Pro 1500 do not match up with the Maintenance and Service Guide whereas the Intel 520 did.
     
  7. HKINGS

    HKINGS Notebook Evangelist

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    Peter... you were right, for the most part. I got a quote back from HP, and while they actually offered a significant discount, it was still costlier once i added memory and the Samsung 840 SSD Pro myself by about $200 or so. PCconnection also charged tax at $1900, which brought it close to $2100 for me in CA.

    I ended up purchasing from ProVantage.com. $1832 + 8 Shipping with No Tax. $1840 out the door seems like a great deal so I jumped at it. It shows as out of stock, but they said it was a two week turnaround direct-ship from HP, which is the shipping time HP quoted as well as PCConnection.

    Now, I just have to play the waiting game! :) Thanks for all of your help!
     
  8. Stereodude

    Stereodude Notebook Consultant

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    How do you know it's a IPS display? I realize it's not TN, but how do you know it's IPS and not some other wide viewing angle technology based on Vertical Alignment?

    Edit: Do you see any sort of backlight bleed on the screen?
     
  9. Sunfox

    Sunfox Notebook Deity

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    It's actually stated in the detailed specifications documents. Acronym descriptions mine. :)

    14" diagonal LED-backlit FHD anti-glare UWVA slim (1920 x 1080)
    Surface Treatment: Anti-glare
    Contrast Ratio: 600:1 (min)
    Brightness: 300 nit (typical)
    Pixel Configuration: RGB Stripe
    Interface: eDP 1.3+PSR (2 lane) (PSR = Panel Self Refresh, a power savings technology)
    Panel Type: IPS/FFS/AHVA (FFS = Fringe Field Switching; AHVA = Advanced Hyper-Viewing Angle)
    Viewing Angle: UWVA 85/85/85/85 (Left/Right/Down/Up)
     
  10. Stereodude

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    No offense, but that doesn't mean anything. IPS, FFS, and AHVA are unique mutually exclusive wide viewing angle LCD technologies. A single LCD panel can't use all 3. It could only be one of the 3. So, that either means they have 3 different panel suppliers and each one uses a different wide viewing angle tech and you could get any one of the three, or they've just thrown all the acronyms to make sure everyone knows it's wide viewing angle.

    FFS is sort of an extension of IPS, but you wouldn't refer to a FFS panel as an IPS panel. Further, FFS is old (like 10+ years), newer better version of it like AFFS and FFS+ have been developed.
     
  11. Sunfox

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    Well, I'm sorry, but that's the best information that's available from HP - IPS or at least IPS-type, and certainly not TN like all the other panels - until someone actually posts the model of LCD in their system.
     
  12. Stereodude

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    No need to apologize. I was just pointing out that's it's still unclear that it's really an IPS panel versus some other sort of wide viewing angle technology like _VA, PLS, etc. In a laptop I'm not really sure it matters all that much. Any of them will be a lot better than a TN panel.
     
  13. Sunfox

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    My Zbook 14 will hopefully arrive next week (maybe, maybe not), and I'm sure it and the 840 G1 use the same screens. If Peter doesn't do it first, I'll try to post the panel model number if I can find out what it is.

    As you say, any IPS-related screen will be heaps better than the horrendous viewing angles on a TN panel!
     
  14. bhzmark

    bhzmark Notebook Guru

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    anyone discover the key differences between Elitebook 840 and Zbook 14?
    1. GPU
    2. On-site warranty

    anything else?
     
  15. Sunfox

    Sunfox Notebook Deity

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    Well, since that question was posted I've done a lot more research and now have a Zbook 14 on order. So, I can add to that list:

    3. Appearance (enclosure color, and styling of outer lid)
    4. The ZBook supports a second SSD in the M2 slot, while the Elitebook supposedly only supports flash cache.
    5. ISV-Certified & claims to pass MIL-STD 810G tests (versus "designed to undergo MIL-STD 810G testing" marketing on Elitebook).
     
  16. Stereodude

    Stereodude Notebook Consultant

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    So I get access to HP's Employee Purchase Program through my job (no, I don't work at HP), but of course you can only by consumer / home office products at a discount, so the Elitebook 840 G1 or Zbook 14 are a no go. :mad:

    Somehow I don't think there will be many deals on these anytime soon. However, I'm still not sure I want to spend ~$1500 on an "Ultrabook". Unforunately, there aren't a lot of options out there in the FHD (or better) matte screen without touch and no donglefest in the smaller / lighter side of notebook PC land.
     
  17. peter0328

    peter0328 Notebook Geek

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    Service manual says IPS/FFS/VA.

    Backlight bleed is only at bottom of display. Only noticeable 99% of the time during POST/Boot. Otherwise you wouldn't notice it unless black screen with high brightness

    Hardware ID is AUO123D or AU0123D. That's the only info I could find. Listed as Generic PNP Monitor in device manager.
     
  18. Stereodude

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    My guess is that it's this AUO panel.

    Thanks for the reply by the way.
     
  19. peter0328

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    Wish they listed more info there but the brightness matches the HP service guide.
     
  20. Stereodude

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    There are more specs for it here.

    Supposedly the .1 version is glossy, and the .0 is matte. The .2 is also matte and is used by Lenovo in the T440s/T440p.
     
  21. HKINGS

    HKINGS Notebook Evangelist

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    I have the top of the line pre-built on order through Provantage.com, however I just came across this yesterday: Tale of Two Ultrabooks: Acer Announces TravelMate P645 Laptop and X313 Convertible | Maximum PC

    Acer releases new Travelmate P645 Ultralight Business Notebook: Acer Announces TravelMate P645 Ultrabook: Core i5 Power, 1080p Display
    Acer launches the TravelMate P645 ultrabook - NotebookCheck.net News

    They have it at Provantage.com too for only $1260: PROVANTAGE: Acer NX.V8SAA.002 TravelMate TMP645-MG-9419 i7-450U 1.8GHz 8GB 256GB SSD 14" W7P/W8P


    Main differences are Acer has:

    i7-4500u (HP has i7-4600u)
    12GB Max memory (HP has 16GB Max)
    2gb DDR3 Radeon HD 8750M (HP has only 1GB, but GDDR5)
    0.2 lbs lighter than HP
    Wireless 7260n (HP has the 7260ac)
    No trackpoint (which I don't personally care about)

    All else looks the same, including 256GB SSD and FHD Matte 1080p display. I can even get the docking station cheaper than HP's (and has more ports).

    Any thoughts on Acer, their keyboards, overall quality? Should I be considering this instead of 840 G1 seeing as its significantly cheaper for almost the same package? Or do you get what you pay for with Acer versus the Elitebook?
     
  22. Sunfox

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    Yup, this matches the conclusion I came to a couple days ago - based on the size, resolution and 170 degree viewing angle, most likely it was an AU Optics panel using AHVA technology. I believe this screen is also used on the Gigabyte P34G.

    I looked at the P645 for a while... it doesn't look bad at all - reasonably priced - but I'd need to know more about the keyboard and overall build quality. Plus, I know in Canada I'd get stuck with a bilingual keyboard, which is one reason I didn't bother looking harder.

    I still actually have an ancient 13.3" 650MHz Acer Travelmate 602TER hanging around with a bad battery that otherwise still works - and has a functional serial port, which is still handy with some equipment.
     
  23. HKINGS

    HKINGS Notebook Evangelist

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    Sunfox,

    If you are in Canada, you are able to order the version with i7-4600u CPU. It runs about $1499 retail. That moel isnt in the US yet... not sure when either. Im thinking about just biting the bullet and buying through Provantage. They are in stock there, and have a 100% Satisfaction Guarantee return policy. I just would lose shipping cost if I sent it back. Might be worth $20 doing it to check it out.
     
  24. Stereodude

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    Well, details are pretty scarce on the Acer system. Does it have dual channel RAM? Is some of it soldered down? It's not even clear what ports they have.

    To me it doesn't have so much appeal as I'm not really interested in discrete graphics, but I want the 1920x1080 screen.
     
  25. Stereodude

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    Where did you find the list of models? The P645 isn't even on the US Acer site.
     
  26. HKINGS

    HKINGS Notebook Evangelist

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    I just did a google search for Acer TMP645 and went from there. Provantage.com carrys tons of business machines at the lowest prices I've seen, so I started there.
     
  27. Sunfox

    Sunfox Notebook Deity

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    I think this is the most detailed list of specs I've seen (for the i7-4600U version)... though a bit disorganized.

    General Information

    TMP645-VG-9821 W7P64 ENG/FR W/W8P64 DL HIDDEN Corei7-4600U vPro(4M L3 cache,2.1G W/TB upto 3.3G,DDR3 1600M,15W)8GB DDR3L 256G SSD 14IN IPS AMD Radeon HD8750M w/2G of dedicated DDR3 VRAM Intel Wireless-N7260 DB,BTH4.0,gigabitLAN,webcam Fingerprint reader

    Brand Name: Acer
    Product Type: Notebook
    Product Name: TravelMate TMP645-VG-74608G25tkk Notebook
    Product Series: P645-VG
    Product Model: TMP645-VG-74608G25tkk
    Manufacturer Part Number: NX.V8TAA.003
    Manufacturer Website Address: Acer | explore beyond limits
    Manufacturer: Acer, Inc
    Marketing Information:
    The Acer TravelMate Series of notebooks features dependable processing power, wide-ranging communication capabilities, and indispensable security solutions to empower mobile professionals like you. Designed to keep your business running while you're on the move, this streamlined notebook boasts corporate-level manageability and convenient handling. An eco-friendly design and energy-conserving features help save cost, as well as the environment.

    Battery Information
    Battery Capacity: 4850 mAh
    Battery Chemistry: Lithium Polymer (Li-Polymer)
    Maximum Battery Run Time: 8 Hour
    Number of Cells: 3-cell

    Built-in Devices
    Finger Print Reader: Yes
    Microphone: Yes
    Speakers: Yes
    Webcam: Yes

    Display & Graphics
    Display Screen Type: Active Matrix TFT Color LCD
    Screen Size: 14"
    Aspect Ratio: 16:9
    Backlight Technology: LED
    Display Screen Technology: In-plane Switching (IPS) Technology
    Display Screen Type: Active Matrix TFT Color LCD
    Graphics Controller Manufacturer: AMD
    Graphics Controller Model: Radeon HD 8750M
    Graphics Memory Accessibility: Dedicated
    Graphics Memory Capacity: Up to 2 GB
    HDCP Supported: Yes
    Maximum Memory: 12 GB
    Screen Mode: Full HD
    Screen Resolution: 1920 x 1080
    Screen Size: 14"
    TV Card: No

    Input Devices
    Keyboard Backlight: Yes
    Keyboard: Yes
    Pointing Device Type: TouchPad
    TouchPad Features: Multi-touch Gesture

    Interfaces/Ports
    Audio Line In: Yes
    Audio Line Out: Yes
    Ethernet Technology: Gigabit Ethernet
    HDCP Supported: Yes
    HDMI: Yes
    Microphone: Yes
    Network (RJ-45): Yes
    Number of USB 3.0 Ports: 3
    Total Number of USB Ports: 3
    VGA: Yes
    Wireless LAN: Yes

    Memory
    Maximum Memory: 12 GB
    Memory Card Reader: Yes
    Memory Card Supported: Secure Digital (SD) Card
    Memory Technology: DDR3 SDRAM
    Number of Total Memory Slots: 1
    Standard Memory: 8 GB
    Certifications & Standards: •ACPI 3.0 •GS •Mobile PC 2002
    Green Compliance Certificate/Authority: HSF
    Green Compliant: Yes
    Package Contents: •TravelMate TMP645-VG-74608G25tkk Notebook •Lithium Polymer Battery •AC Adapter

    Physical Characteristics
    Depth: 9.3" (235.5 mm)
    Width: 12.9" (328.5 mm)
    Height: 818.9 mil (20800 µm)
    Weight (Approximate): 1.50 kg

    Power Description
    Battery Chemistry: Lithium Polymer (Li-Polymer)
    Maximum Power Supply Wattage: 65 W

    Processor & Chipset
    64-bit Processing: Yes
    Cache: 4 MB
    Hyper-Threading: Yes
    Processor Core: Dual-core (2 Core)
    Processor Manufacturer: Intel
    Processor Model: i7-4600U
    Processor Speed: 2.10 GHz
    Processor Type: Core i7

    Software
    Operating System Architecture: 64-bit
    Operating System: Windows 7 Professional
    Software Included: •Microsoft® Office Starter: reduced-functionality Word and Excel® only, with advertising. No PowerPoint® or Outlook®. Buy Office 2010 to use the full-featured software.
    •Bing™ Bar
    •Windows Live™ Essentials

    Storage
    Memory Card Supported: Secure Digital (SD) Card
    Optical Drive Type: No
    Solid State Drive Capacity: 256 GB
    Solid State Drive Interface: Serial ATA/300
     
  28. HKINGS

    HKINGS Notebook Evangelist

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    Yeah, this is the maxed out version with highest CPU. Not sure if there is that much difference in i7-4600u vs i7-4500u.

    Also, what's a better dedicated GPU memory set up, 2GB of DDR3 or 1GB of GDDR5?
     
  29. Sunfox

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    There's a 300MHz difference between the 4500 and 4600, so there could be a noticeable improvement (considering these ultrabook CPUs are pretty low-powered to begin with). GDDR5 *will* be faster, and for the laptop's standard resolution of 1920x1080 1gb should be more than enough, but if you're trying to drive a high-resolution external model 2gb may be useful. For daily use on the laptop, 1gb GDDR5 will give you more bang (not necessarily for the buck).
     
  30. peter0328

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    I'm not a big fan of Acer design or quality. But I've only used their consumer machines.

    840 pros other than what you said:
    -1 more USB port
    -Possibly no WWAN support on Acer
    -Bottom of laptop comes off for easy component access with no screws
    -Maybe slightly larger battery capacity (not 100% sure)
    -HP support

    Acer pro:
    -NFC


    I wouldn't trade my Elitebook for anything else.
     
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    HKINGS Notebook Evangelist

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    Thanks SunFox. Right now Im using an HP Envy with 3rd Gen iCore7 Quad with a 2GB GDDR5 Nvidia 650GT that pushes two 24" 1920x1200 Monitors through a USB 3.0 Lenovo Dock. My goal is too downsize to a 14" Ultrabook, but still be able to push to the same two monitors at minimum. However, I'm also debating swapping out one (maybe both) of the monitors for a 27" 2560x1440 QHD display. Id need the HP or Acer dock for each setup, but which VIdeo memory will be better for my needs. 2GB DDR3 or 1GB GDDR5? Or will both handle any combo of those monitors through the docking stations without issue?

    P.S. I don't do any hardcore gaming on my laptop. Just an occasional game here or there that isn't video card intensive.
     
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    Looking to get the 840 G1 - probably the i7-4600U model. Unfortunately, there are not many complete reviews.

    Has anyone run any benchmarks on this system? 3dmark? Passmark? Civ5, Diablo, BF3, Guild Wars 2, or Skyrim fps tests? It would be interesting to see how these numbers compare to the 8750M numbers on notebookcheck.
     
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    So far no sign of any Black Friday or Cyber Monday related deals on any of the 840 G1 systems at any retailers selling them. I am sort of targeting the F2P20UT#ABA, but haven't seen any sales (so far) that might help.
     
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    Well the Lenovo T440s just got a lot more attractive with their Black Friday promotion. It's now pretty comparable to the Elitebook 840 G1 config I was looking at. It is limited to 12GB of RAM since it only has 1 SoDIMM slot with 4GB soldered on, but uses the same AUO FHD panel and is pretty much equivalent otherwise. $1287.18 with 4GB of RAM and a 7200rpm 500GB HD (3yr depot warranty) vs ~$1500 for the F2P20UT#ABA. That leaves $213 for 4GB SoDIMM and a SSD to get them equivalent with the exception of the OS (Win 8 vs. Win 7 Pro).
     
  35. HKINGS

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    Not sure if you checked out Provantage.com yet, but they have that model for $1443 with no tax (before shipping).
    http://www.provantage.com/hewlett-packard-hp-f2p20ut-aba~7HEWW439.htm



    Ive used them before and they are very good. In fact, they just shipped the top of the line model today direct from HP. I also ordered the Acer Travelmate p645 top of fully loaded for $1260 through them too. I may end up keeping the Acer though since its so much cheaper, but I will try both out and return the one I dont like. They have a 100% Satisfaction Guarantee, full refund (minus shipping unless its faulty).
     
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    I saw the Acer, but I'm not sure I want discrete graphics. Unfortunately you can't get the FHD option without it. The price is better though. The non-Intel wireless and 2 year warranty are also drawbacks. Plus I don't know how rubust their business class machine are.
     
  37. ikaz

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    Hey Guys,

    new member here. from Canada. been reading your review on this lovely elitebook peter has. the F2Q28UT model.

    I have been trying to get this config in canada but it is not available and the hp combinations for the new 840 are terrible. I have an option to purchase this through the US and physically pick it up from a friends house but it will probably cost just over 2000$.

    My big issue here is the warranty. I've had the 8440w, and with the 3 year warranty I sent it for repair like 4 times maybe. So i am not so sure I want to send this to the US because that can be quite costly. Unless HP offers the travel pack as they told me.

    Now i read here about the new acer travelmate TravelMate P645, It seems to have amazing specs vs the elitebook 840. just the major difference of the RAM.

    Frankly, 5 months ago i bought top of the line ASUS ZENBOOK PRIME UX31A Touch. and sold it 3 weeks ago. terrible model for RAM, music, videos lag, no ports of any kind, dongles all over and though the laptop had a nice feel / build quality was not a machine given it had a soldered 4gb and couldnt get an upgrade. it just wasnt good for autocad but is great for a home user that doesnt have 50 tabs open at the same time as well as various adobe files.

    I am confused now as to which laptop to purchase. the acer is nice, priced well, warranty in canada and canada actually has the better model. vs this amazing 840. I recently also borrowed an old hp pavilion dv6 from our office with discrete graphics, 16gb ram, 15.6 inch and having been a person who uses 13-14 inch notebook, I am enjoying this screen alot. even with all the travelling i am doing. I am really leaning toward ordering the 850 model with the same specs as the F2Q28UT model.
    do you think their will be a huge weight difference? peter, what does your 840 weigh at?


    Thanks guys for your opinions and look forward to your thoughts!

    Cheers,

    Zaki
     
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    HKINGS Notebook Evangelist

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    Zaki, sounds like you have the same exact experience and currently thinking of the same options.

    I was debating 840 vs 850 too, but I plan on being more mobile with this laptop, and the 14" screen at 1080p will be fine for me (Im used to my 14" work laptop with lower resolution.


    The 850 is 4.1 lbs
    The 840 is 3.5 lbs
    The 645 is 3.3 lbs

    ... all 3 are lighter than my 5.7 lb ENVY DV6 15.6" laptop Im planning on selling.

    The Acer seems like an excellent buy, that's why I'm at least giving it a shot. Most companies business notebooks are usually of higher quality then their consumer line and I've heard the same of Acer. I also like the fact the Acer has HDMI out, something not found on a lot of business notebooks... they even have it on the dock (which I scored a new one for $40 on ebay.)

    All that said, if it feels and works like a piece of junk I'll keep the HP... just depends on which I like using better, better screen, touchpad, etc. Im sure overall performance will be very close for real world use.

    Lastly StereoDude, where did you see exact specs on the wireless card? I havent been able ot find anything on the Acer yet. I was actually planning on replacing it with an Intel 7600 AC card anyways, assuming there will be access to it via the bottom panel (which I think there is based on a few images I saw.) It's an easy and inexpensive upgrade that I actually did with my current HP as well.
     
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    Hello HKINGS,

    Thanks for your reply. man the choices are too much here. I only learnt of the acer because of you guys. my only worry here is that acer, like asus, an upgraded consumer notebook vs the service i got from the elite notebook, the sturdiness etc.

    Frankly, a big reason why i sold the zenbook prime is the mouse pad. Horrible, horrible, horrible. I cannot say it less than 3 times. terrible feels, 1 pad, and its hard to right click even after disabling all the features.

    I am worried the acer is of the same quality. I really dont want to make another $1700 mistake. I sold this asus for $850 After 5 months. So I would like to make sure I make the right decision this time.

    The weight isnt bad between all models but how sturdy are the hinges of each, which screen is better ? I personally dont like matte displays much though they are nice if you work alot on a computer I must say. I have no idea of the terminology you guys are using here but I am pretty good with LED/LCD/PLASMA TV's :)

    I wouldn't mind doing the 15.6 model for the HP, although everyone seems to be going for the 14 inch. the good thing about the acer is that it is 14.6 which is amazing. you get the 15 and also the portability but who has tried this notebook. Is it true they offer a 2 year warranty. Also being from canada, the warranty locally is good vs having the take it to the US and back. But people seem to be raving about the 840 model with the 16gb ram, discrete graphics etc.. So i am confused.

    Any reviews out for the Acer model ? the poster and the person responsible for putting me into this dilemma should help.

    Thanks again for your responses.

    I wish we could have gathered an order of 4-5 units, I would have had HP Canada specially assemble this for us. I spoke with them through my IT reseller and they said they could do this but have to have a minimum of 5 units on order for this factory program and the Unit would likely cost about the same as the US Model maybe a little cheaper but i never checked because I wasnt planning on ordering 5 units.




     
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    Like the HP 840, the Acer has a trackpad with buttons, so it isn't like the touchpad on the consumer line. The HP does have the rubber trackpoint cursor though if that is important to you.

    Also, if you don't like Matte displays. I recommend looking at consumer line 14" notebooks, HP and Sony make some decent units with great screens as well. This is my main machine for writing and I can't stand staring at my reflection all day, so I prefer matte on my main non-touch screen displays.
     
  41. ikaz

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    The rubber is nice but not a neceesity. as long as the speed and feel of the mousepad is good, I am good. the trackpoint cursor is a no use for me, in fact, i broke it on my 8440w and never bothered to replace it.

    The matte is nice, but I am ok with Acer's new screen.

    So now I gotta find reviews of the Acer. I will think hard before picking between this and the 840 from the US. I really wish I can check out the keyboard, screen, speed etc. of the notebook live before purchase. not sure where I can do that.
     
  42. ikaz

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    I just got quoted from my it re-seller

    ACER TMP645-VG-9821 I7-4600U


    MFG PART NO NX.V8TAA.003

    $1467 + TAX


    what do you guys think..
     
  43. ikaz

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    sorry this was the wrong model
     
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    NCIX Canada has the P645 i7,8gb,256gb ssd with dgpu for 1,399 cad. But this model is not in stock yet and no indication for free shipping. However, I believe it should have free shipping once it is in stock.
     
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    thanks.


    what do you think of this notebook? anyone seen it in action
     
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    The Provantage and Acer pages list it as Acer nplify b/g/n, not as an Intel. Maybe it's an Intel, but I wouldn't bet on it.
     
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    Hey ikaz,

    Unfortunately I have not seen this notebook in action. I'm in the same position as you, a few hours ago I posted up a message in the acer forum asking if anyone had it already.

    I am tempted to purchase it now, but still want to wait for a review on the unit.

    I am confused with the wifi info too, on the provantage site it lists under additional information: Acer nplify b/g/n. However under the wi-fi model section it shows it as an intel wireless n-7620.
     
  48. ikaz

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    if you write me a request for clarification in 2-3 lines, I can forward this to my it reseller and he can get us an answer from acer tech / sales. I honestly have no idea what the difference is / means. perhaps some can explain. and if you like, write me up a comment and ill copy / paste in my email and send it through to get us answers.

    I was all for the top line 840, but this is pretty close and seems like a deal and a pro laptop you can take the risk with, but again , I would like to see 1 review !
     
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    This Acer page makes no mention of Intel wireless. Acer | TravelMate P6 | Travelmate P645 | Datasheet
     
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