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    Is it my imagination...

    Discussion in 'HP Business Class Notebooks' started by Thecla, Jan 21, 2011.

  1. Dionysios

    Dionysios Notebook Enthusiast

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    According to notebook check the Radeon HD 6470M is actually 21% slower than the Intel HD Graphics 3000.

    Even if the benchmarks used by notebookcheck are overly optimistic, that would probably mean that the 6470M and HD Graphics 3000 have basically the same power.

    WTH? So is the discrete graphics there only because the ATI drivers may be better optimized for certain pieces of software?

    I'm really scratching my head here...
     
  3. coldmack

    coldmack Notebook Virtuoso

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    You maybe be right bout the drivers, but I still think some of it maybe marketing reasons. Or maybe at full usage you can't have both the cpu and gpu working at 100% at the same time, but I am not sure.
     
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    I guess we settled that
     
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    Dont be mad, I think your 8440p looks better then 8460p :)

    I'm waiting on the 8560w, but I have a very bad feeling about the graphic card. Hope it's not gonna be weaker then the current one (like they did with the p).

    Battery looks very promising, but everythink else still points me to 8740w.
     
  7. knight427

    knight427 theenemysgateisdown

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    nVIDIA has basic specs up for the new cards. The 8560w should offer FX1000M and FX2000M. Click on Mid-Range to compare spec with 880M and 1800M. I have not heard anything about a new AMD card yet.
     
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    So the same as w520. If I saw it right it has ddr3. But at least it should not be slower :) With quadro 3000 I would be happy. Dream on :)
     
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    knight427 theenemysgateisdown

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    I'm sure the 8760w will offer FX3000M...or were you dreaming of 3000M in a 15" laptop? If so, I wonder if it would be possible in a Sager? Doesn't one of their 15" laptops offer 17" class GPUs?
     
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    Tom1939 Notebook Consultant

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    No I would like have a new sandy bridge 15 business notebook. Elitebook or thinkpad. Dell is not selling the M line in my country (sadly, If I remember right M4600 has some stronger ati card). I'm playing on it as well as working, so optimus would be nice. But 8560p got weaker in graphics, and quadro 2000 does not look like too much of a upgrade over 1800.

    Sager is not sold by us, but I do not want a gaming notebook anyway.

    But I will wait for 8560w before deciding.

    Right now I'm torn between quadro 2000 thinkpad w520 (like the conservativ looks and massive battery time) and 8740w (very good looks for me, very strong ati card, but bigger and battery time should be very bad).

    So I want a 15, but might get a 17 :)
     
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    Will there be a 14in workstation Elitebook with a high quality display? If not, based on the current 14in Elitebook 8440p , how is the quality and color of the high res display?
     
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    HP EliteBook 8560P Gains Sandy Bridge, New Look: Specs, Pics and Details (Video) | Notebooks.com

    Eyefinity: supports three active monitors at the same time. AMD/ATI is the only manufacturer currently with that technology so there isn't much choise.
     
  13. Siorah

    Siorah Beware of Squirrels!

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    nah, thats tripe.

    My 2800M can do 4 monitors, you just need a displayport splitter.

    I have had 2 on displayport, +vga and the internal display running with no issues whatsoever.

    The 880M/1800M/2800M/3800M are dead officially, we have a new generation:

    1000M, 2000M, for 15"

    3000M - this is tricky as i've seen two versions of this card, and one is for a 15" so i think this is the new 'midrange' card (like the 1800M)

    4000M, 5000M, 5010M, (Unnumbered) for 17" The unnumbered card was hinted about in that convention i went to last week.
     
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    Sotton Notebook Evangelist

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    Siorah Beware of Squirrels!

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    nah, unnumbered is one between 5010M and 4000M thats on optimus. i remembered about the 5010m just as i pressed post lol
     
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    Well, that guy likes the new design.v :rolleyes: He seemed really impressed by the fact one does not need to bother with all those screws to change out HDD/RAM etc. Then he shows how much "down time" we can save with the new latch system that opens the entire bottom. Finally, he proceeds to point out "the HDD is right here <tug tug tug> we just need to remove 3 screws...". Yeah, guess how many screws I need to remove to get my HDD out?
     
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    Well, between the new T420, E6420, and the 8460, the HP gets my vote since they were kind enough to include Quad core options and USB 3.0.

    I really hope the 8460w gets a GPU that has a decent increase of power in comparison to the Intel HD3000. It doesn't have to be a high-end gaming chip, but it should be better than the *mediocre* chip in the 8460p.

    I don't have much hope though. The chip in the 8440p is basically a 310M, which is very entry level. If the chip in the 8460w is a "professional" version of the chip in the 8460p, I guess I'll be waiting another year before finally moving my whole computing life from Desktop+Laptop into just a laptop.
     
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    anybody knows if there will be new docking stations?

    BTW, Apple seems to stick to 1920x1200 with their new MacBook Pro 17" and I think they use Sandy Bridge (but not sure)
     
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    Judicator Judged and found wanting.

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    Maybe because of the Apple markup? Since you pay more, they can afford to do customized screen runs.
     
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    Maybe Apple has simply grabbed all 16:10 production capacity and so the panel manufacturers cannot guarantee delivery to others. Thus companies like Dell, HP, and Lenovo are forced to switch to 16:9 so they actually have products to sell.

    It might sound quite ridiculous, but there is some speculation that one of the reasons 10 inch alternatives to the IPAD are taking so long to come to market is because Apple (and their massive purchasing power) is eating up global capacity for those panels.

    If Apple says "This year we want ~1 million 15 inch 16:10 screens from you" nobody is going to say no to them. The other buyers are out of luck unless they can offer the panel manufacturer a better (e.g. higher volume) deal.

    This is all rampant speculation so just take it with a grain of salt.
     
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