15.4 Turion X2 HP Notebook... Does anybody know when?

Does anybody know when will HP launch a 15.4 notebook with a turion X2 processor? They have already moved to X2 with the 14.1, what are they waiting for?

I have only until the end of the month to buy a notebook, does anybody have any information that can give me any hope?

Otherwise, what do you advise me to do? The other options are:

- Buy a 14.1 dv2000z (I lose screen size)

- Buy a 15.4 notebook with a core duo (I lose 64 bits)

- Buy a 5000z (I lose Sata, DDR2 and all new features)

I use Linux, like to watch movies, listen to music, compile some stuff, do some development, image editing, browse internet... and I am not a gaming maniac, but I would really like to be future-proof with a 64 bits processor...

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OBS: First of all, thanks everybody for the responses. I am out of US now but I will buy a notebook and redirect to where I am (Dominican Republic) through some site like Lanbox USA. The problem is that I am going back to my country (Brazil) at August 11th. So I do not have much time to wait. And prices in Brazil are prohibitive.

And just to clarify a little bit more, It is not a matter of having a 10% faster processor, I am really willing to buy a 64 bits computer because I believe it is the way to go, only a very strong opinion can make me change this idea. The main doubt here is if it is worth sacrificing the screen for the new processor and features, so the main questions became:

- When do you think HP will release a Turion X2 with a 15.4 screen?

- Do you believe that by going to 14.1 I will lose much in terms of screen size?

- Do you know any Turion X2 with a 15.4 screen notebook that I can buy now? For what price?

- How long do you think I can wait to buy a notebook and be able to receive it outside of US, considering as a final date for receiving it August 8th?

 

get a notebook with CoreDuo. it is much much much much much faster than a Turion X2(sorry for all the muchs).....as for 64-bit...well that wont be important for a few years (plus the Core duo comes with a better graphics option)
or just wait for the Core2 Duo which will be 64bit

 

Given that the TX2 is just a low-voltage version of existing Athlon 64 X2 Socket AM2 chips, I don't see how the Core Duo could be "much * 5" faster. I'd expect 32-bit performance to be pretty similar in an apples-to-apples comparison.

64-bit will be important if you have applications that can take advantage of it, especially the performance boost provided by the doubling of general purpose registers you get in AMD64 mode (crypto, Java, video codecs in particular). Or if you want to run the same binaries that you do on your Opteron servers. Or you run Linux. There is still a disturbing amount of foot-dragging on 64-bit Windows driver development by various peripherals makers though. They'd better fix that by the time Vista RC1 is ready.

Unfortunately I'm not hopeful that we'll see anything bigger than the dv2000z buyable before the end of the month from HP. July is much more likely.

 

Well, in fact as a Linux user we already have plenty of 64 bits software for us. Not fully optimized for it, but anyway...

I would really like to buy a Core 2 Duo, but I as said, I have to buy a computer until the end of the month...

 

I didnt see the core duo as being that much faster than the Turion X2. I saw from reviews that the core 2 duo(conroe) was faster than the Turion X2, but thats still a long way left before they release it in august. By then the Turion will be much cheaper. So Im pretty sure the that savings in money you can buy an ever faster Turion X2 to compete with the Core 2 duo.

I think 64 bit is here already, microsoft is releasing two OS 32bit and 64bit, Also the core 2 duo supports 64 bit. So at least if your going to go with core duo, go with core 2 duo. at least it will be more future proof. Im pretty sure everyone is more eager to use 64 bit rather than 32 bit if they have the capabilities to use it.

 

It took 7 years for 32 bit apps to become mainstream. It will take that long or even longer for 64 bit apps to take over the world. By then my watch will be as powerful as some of the latest laptops.

 

You might want to try the HP NX6325. It is in the business line of HP's notebooks and is a 15" model with the Turion X2. Look at it here:

http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF25a/321957-64295-89315-321838-f33-1849082.html

Good luck!

 

Does anybody have a comparison between 14.1 and 15.4 screens? My doubt is much more about the screen that the processor... If anybody manages to convince me that 14.1 is in fact better I will go shopping right now!

 

got a 14.1 screen and im loving it loL! I really cant say more then that. I have had five laptops and all big 15.4 or larger and im enjoying this 14"

 

Sweet! Can you tell me if you miss the extra area in some cases? For example, can you see an Excel spreadsheet with font Arial, size 10, and zooming to 75% without forcing you eyes?

I know, this sounds weird but it is a great test

 

go to a computer store and look for yourself. just b/c one person prefers 14", doesn't mean you will.

 

Last week my company gave me a new Toshiba Tecra M5 to take with me when I am on the road. It’s a very nice machine; my company even sprang for the upgraded SXGA+ screen that has a resolution of 1400x1050. Excel and Access are among two of the application I use the most. If you are going to be using Excel and Access lightly the 14.1” screen is great. But if you are going to be spending a lot of time with the Visual Basic editor, or doing a lot of work with arrays in Excel, or creating tables and queries in Access, the 14.1” screen might be a little small. It’s not bad if you are going to be working for just a few hours, but anything above 4 hours and I start to get a headache, and I know it’s not because my eyes are shot, I’m only 28, but then again it could just be me.

I don’t know how you plan on using this or how much you would be using it mobile, but keep in mind that you may be able to connect an external monitor if you are really attached to the 14.1” display.

 

I will do that, but if I can gather opinion from others, it is VALID.

 

Is not your problems because the resolution is to high for a 14.1" screen?

 

i'm also debating myself wether to get a 14.1" or 15.4" screen... i've been checking computer stores and i guess 15.4" will fit my needs... i guess it would depend on how long will you be staring at your laptop screen...

i'm still waiting for HP "imprint-designed" Turion X2 15.4"... there's a rumor that they will launch a 17" with the HP-imprint...

the nx6325 does not give any APP discount

 

Ops, this information about the 17" screen notebook is new, where did your hear it from? And again, why would they renew the 17" product line and keep the old 15.4" ones?

Well, given the discounts they are giving for the 5000z, it looks like they will reveal a new product line with the imprint design when they burn their stocks, and maybe they still have too many 5000's...

 

http://crave.cnet.co.uk/laptops/0,39029450,49273376,00.htm

 

Oh, Come on. The screen area is defined by resultion not by the physical size. The 15.4" is not much difference from 14.1", it is numbered by diagno length. 15.4" is only about 0.8 inch wider than 14.1", if you divide that into screen resultion--1280, you will get 0.000625" bigger per pixel. If you look at 10x10 font, the difference is 0.00625". That is as thick as your hair.

Forcing your eyes? Yeah, it depends on how bad of your eyes. I am not wearing glasses, I can't tell the feeling.

 

Actually screen area is indeed defined by the physical size.
Definition of area is width x height, right?
Yes, the size increase you get by going from 14.1" to 15.1" is small, but we need to look at the % increase instead of the absolute number because a the width and height of a single pixel is small to start with.
Also, you need to use area instead of length to do comparsion.
In fact, a 15.4" has almost 20% more viewing area than 14.1" and the pixels on a 15.4" with 1280x800 resolution are 15% bigger than 14.1 with 1280x768 resolution.
I have 15.4" and 14.1" and I would say the difference the 15% brings is noticeable.
I am not sure how Word and Excel implement the zoom function, but you can use it as a reference to see how much smaller things appear on a 14.1". Just change the zoom from 100% to 85%.

Code:

size      width        height       area         area per pixel
14.1      11.76254938  7.775116206  91.45518833  9.30330E-05
15.4      12.84703975  8.491970891  109.0966876	 1.06540E-04
% more    9%           9%           19%          15%

 

Thanks everybody for the feedback!

I have seen laptops of both sizes at stores and played with my friend's 14.1 a little bit, and finally decided that I will get a 2000z. 15.4 laptops do not seem to be much portable, and the 14.1 screen fits my needs.