30% off is over??

i guess they cut it off the coupon code no longer works

 

I guess Dell or somebody else will get my service.......

 

they switched back to the 20% off that one is working again now.. really sucks

 

wow, i'm the luckiest dude in the world.

last night i configured the 2500T and it came out to $989 after tax and the coupon, and i left it in my cart.

this morning i configured the same PC and HP increased the prices and it was $150 more.

So I ordered it around 2 PM PST today and I was able to get that first price and used the 30% coupon, I really lucked out.

Your customized PC includes:

- HP Pavilion dv2500t notebook
- Genuine Windows Vista Home Premium (32-bit)
- Intel(R) Core(TM) 2 Duo processor T7500 (2.20 GHz, 4 MB L2 Cache, 800MHz FSB)
- 14.1" WXGA High-Definition HP BrightView Widescreen Display (1280 x 800)
- 2GB DDR2 System Memory (2 Dimm)
- 319MB NVIDIA GeForce 8400M GS
- HP Imprint Finish (Radiance) + Webcam + Microphone
- Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 4965AGN Network Connection and Bluetooth(TM)
- FREE Upgrade to 160GB 5400RPM from 120GB 5400RPM!!
- SuperMulti 8X DVD+/-R/RW with Double Layer Support
- No TV Tuner w/remote control
- High Capacity 6 Cell Lithium Ion Battery
- Microsoft(R) Works 8.0

 

from what a lot of people are saying is that hp is calling people saying the coupon was a mistake and not valid.. hope you dont get that call but be aware

 

uh that would really suck, and honestly **** that, they offered it and accepted it, then too bad, they have to accept it and honor it.

i was going to get a dell 1520 for $1580 a couple weeks ago, and I couldn't pass up this offer for $960 shipped.

If HP screwed up, that's too bad, they're gonna have to take the loss on this one.

 

umm no they don't .. sorry to say, lenovo just had the same issues where they canceled everyone and said to bad. hp can easily do the same thing.. they will offer the system at full price and say if you dont want it we will just cancel the order.. there are already some posts on the net i saw where the reps are telling people this that called up to order.. the coupon was not valid and they will be calling everyone to change their orders..

they can do it and if they decide to i would be super pissed myself .. i was going to order a 9500t and now forget it im not at 20% off..

 

god damnit, i really hope it doesn't go down like this.

where did you hear HP calling people and cancelling their orders? this seems real suspect to me.

 

on here someone mentioned it and on another forum i honestly done remeber which i was searching for more info on the 9500t and there were 3 or 4 people who stated it on there as wel

 

I am pissed that I missed the 30% off

 

I was just about to buy a dv2500t and the coupon was working, then I changed my configuration and re-applied the coupon...and it said it was invalid.

 

Even with just 20 percent off coupon.. these machines are vastly better then the Dells which are plagued with crappy displays and static in the headphone jacks. The altec lansing speakers on the HP's are worlds better as well. Yes Dell has some nice colorful lids, buts thats about it. The rest of the new inspiron line is about as generic/basement styling as it can get. The 1520 does have a nicer gpu then the dv6500, but the 1520 also has the most issues with static/noise and bad displays.. The 1520 is also thick/heavy tank. I think one would be better off getting the dv9500 with 86gs card versus the 86gt.

 

Whew. I guess I lucked out as well - though I ordered mine the day the coupon was out. They better not make me pay the full price because the notebooks I ordered are already in production status.

 

I just wish that HP offered the GT instead of the GS. If they did that they would blow away Dell's Inspirons. The big selling points that HP hooked me on was full support for Ultimate 64-bit (Dell still doesn't offer 64-bit), the style of the Laptop, the HDMI port and screen, the processor selection and the price.

 

^^^^ exactly if they had the gt i would have had my order in the first day i saw this coupon out there.. i took to long to decide and when i went to place the order last night no 30% off anymore.. so im stuck waiting for another replacement dell ... this sucks

 

If you're ordering from Dell again, did you put their 20% coupon?

 

what 20% coupon?? i am doing a replacment with dell i have not seen any 20% off coupon only in canada

 

Ah. Nevermind, looks like it expired yesterday. Don't know if the coupon was for Canada too.

 

One of the reasons I chose an HP over a Dell was the style. I went into a Dell outlet while I was still trying to decide and I walked around, feeling and picking up the 1520 and the 1720. They just didn't feel right to me. I went to Costco and the moment I saw the HP, it was "lurve at first sight". I'm still surprised that I ended up getting a notebook with a 17" screen. It's not nearly as cumbersome as I originally thought it might be!

 

I agree with you completely Meowsley! HP in my opinion have the best looking laptops out there. The only thing that I wish HP offered in their laptops was better video cards. I can't understand it either, they offer some better ones in their business line, but in their multimedia lines (which gamers and home users buy) they only offer the 8600m GS. At least they make up for it with everything else in the laptops.

I ordered my DV9500t last Wednesday and its supposed to come in on Monday and I can't wait! After pricing around and looking at all the options I wanted the HP delivered, except for the video card, but the 8600m GS will play games with some decent performance.

 

I went from definitely not getting a laptop for a while to ordering one within the next week w/ this coupon......................SADLY.... I should have ordered the next day. Sooo ONCE AGAIN...back into the not getting one for a while deal... I was at the end of the week long period too when I made my decision.

 

Don't worry guys, HP does it all the time and new coupons are on the way. Just wait a little.

 

most likely not 30% off though

 

Hey, you never know, and remember the Holidays are coming up so they will be offering a lot of good deals!

 

thats true but most supervisors told me that the 30% off was driving them crazy and brought them more grief then profit.. hopefully they are wrong and it does come back..

Alex

 

yup when i called they told me there was to many issues of people sending back systems to get the extra 10% so i have a feeling this is why they cancelled it

 

30% off means no profit, very probably a loss. Margin on laptops is razor thin, even when they're at full price. Giving you a 30% coupon means that they lose money on most of their sales.

 

i highly doubt that... i know they dont make much but i own a retail electronics store and trust me there is more markup than that.. i can gaurantee there is

 

NOT.

Normal retail discount begins at 40%. Bigger you are, bigger the discount. Places like CDW are probably 45-50%.

Now, manufacturing....if they aren't using a 5x multiplier they are at least 4x on direct costs.

So...A machine with an MSRP of $2000 sells to a distro for $1000-$1200. The manufacturer's direct cost on that item are probably under $300, and even if I'm missing by some, it's no more than $500.

Since you are buying direct from the mfgr...

 

Alright, you're saying that it costs $300-$500 to manufacture a $2000 computer, so by that logic, a $1000 computer would cost $150, and a $500 computer would cost $75.

Come on! This is computers we're talking about, not T-shirts. If you think that a company like HP or Dell makes a profit of 50% on each computer, I'm sorry to tell you, but competition just doesn't work like that.

For example, lets build a computer.
1. A processor (Intel T7100) - $273 retail, lets say HP can get it for $200.
2. The rest of the computer - according to your model, HP can whip up a chassis, GPU, LCD... for $100, and give you free shipping and 1 year warranty...

Like I said, the computer market has razor thin margins. Esp. the way the we here at NBR buy computers. The money doesn't come from the computer, it comes from extended warranties, accessories (mouse, bag, ink...), and top-tier upgrades (like 4 GB RAM for $400). If they give you a huge discount (30%), they're using the computers as a loss-leader, attracting customers to hopefully purchase some of the more lucrative items.

I love how people don't believe this when I bluntly give it to them. The reason is because it's against normal common-sense. People wonder why a company would sell something if they are losing money doing it.

 

with the super high quantity these huge companies order there is now way they are only getting the t7100 as you say for 200$.. no way.... they order thousands upon thousands of them i can gaurantee they pay less.. with a small company that say buys maybe 500-1000 or maybea small amount more at a time okay i can see a smaller margin but not with dell, hp, lenovo... no way...i have a good friend at ibm/lenovo who works in the sales dept to large companies ill call him today and ask his opinions.. i used to work with him back when we both were in photolithography dept at ibm in east fishkill ny.. i used to be a repair tech there..he since has moved up the ladder and i moved on lol

 

I've a question, where is the place where you put the coupon code because its not there at the review. Is it after you've entered the payment details?!?!?1

 

its where you enter the payment info at the bottom you dont have to enter cc info yet just enter the coupon code and update then you can see the price. remember everyone THIS REMOVES ANY EXISTING DISCOUNTS SO ANY INSTANT REBATES WILL BE REMOVED.. the 20% comes off the higest price listed before instant rebates...

 

I jumped on the this deal as soon as I found out about the coupon code.

I figured order first, think about it later. I can always either cancel the order or Return the laptop if I don't like it.

I hope it gets here before i have to return my dell, I want to do some comparisons between the two.

 

Intel sells their processors in lots of 1000. That's to any company, or person willing to buy.

Here's more concrete data: due to the recently announced Intel price cuts, a T7250 goes for $209 in a batch of 1000. This information I'm giving you isn't just made up ho-hum. It doesn't do me any good to praise HP or Dell, same thing for talking crap about all the companies. I only try to represent the truth - apart from the mass hysteria I see on these forums. I still can't believe that people think a company makes a ton of money selling computers. If you just think how competitive the market is, there's no way you'll make 50%, not even 10%. On a computer at retail price, without the special coupons, HP's lucky to make $50-$100, and that's only if you throw them a bone.

 

LMAO ROF. Go ahead and delude yourself all you want, but you are WAY off base.
But you are good for a laugh anyway, I had a good one.

 

Attacking me is probably not the best idea to defend your point. Please offer an intelligent counterpoint, so we can continue this debate.

I've already broken down your math. Your $300-$500 to produce a $2000 retail computer is impossible.

 

I made no attacks, just laughing at your ignorance. Nothing wrong with being ignorant. There is a vast difference between ignorant and stupid. Ignorance can be cured, stupid cannot and I did not call you stupid, just ignorant as most consumers are on this topic of cost vs MSRP (most manufacturers spread this ignorance, and nearly all Sales people do.)

No manufacturer can survive on 5-10% profit margins over direct costs. This is basic business 101 and needs no defense.
I'm speaking from the manufacturer's point of view (which I have 15 years of experience as.)
Very small companies on very tight budgets can do 3x on direct costs. Bigger companies w/ more overhead need larger multipliers.

Also, you need to understand the difference between direct costs and overall operating expenses. Direct costs are what it costs to put the item in the box. Overall costs include management, R&D, advertising, interest, overhead, marketing, etc. Overall expenses are very difficult to calculate because much of it needs to be amortized over a projected number of products, direct costs are easy (just what the items in the box cost.)

Again, basic business 101. You need education, not speculation.

 

Computers are special.

Lets take a company like Wal-Mart and look at its business. Wal-Mart has weekly sales, and those sales are loss-leaders. Wal-Mart loses money whenever someone buys a loss-leader. Why do they have them if they're losing money? To attract customers in hopes of buying another item which has some profit.

Here's the difference between a computer manufacturer and Wal-Mart. A company like HP uses the same strategy - they have loss-leaders. However, for them, the computer itself is a loss-leader whenever they have a great deal in place (20-30% off coupons). They attract customers, in hopes of them buying a warranty (usually a 100% markup) or an accessory, esp. cables (USB cables can have up to a 1000% markup).

I know for a fact, that when I sold a computer that was on sale, the store was taking a $50-$100 loss. It was up to me to make up that loss by attaching very profitable items. When I sold a computer at its retail price, the store would make about $25-$50. Again, I don't make this stuff up - it doesn't do me any good to defend or attack a company. I just call it like it is.

 

LOL.
Real 'Cost' is the most carefully hidden topic in retail/mfg. As an employee you will not know the truth.

And I really have better things to do with my time than to teach you basic business 101. I also lack the desire to teach.

 

Oh dear, no matter what numbers I put up, no one will listen. And I fully understand why. To a normal person, this doesn't make sense. Saying that a company loses money on the most vital thing that they sell goes against common reasoning. I don't need you to teach me business, nor do I need you to call me ignorant. None of that helps this forum move along. But I'm not here to debate business or reasoning with you. All I give are the facts.

How bout this: http://www.emsnow.com/newsarchives/archivedetails.cfm?ID=6788
A little old, 2004, but I doubt too much has changed. Compal apparently gets a 4%-6% margin, a wee-bit less than the 200-400% that you state.

Bottom line: a computer manufacturer survives on volume, not markup. They need to sell a ton of computers, at a razor-thin margin, in order to survive. If they truly made $1500 on a $2000 computer, I'd probably jump right into that business as we speak.

 

hey zfactor, I just checked my order status.

H101329122 Sep 12, 2007
$989.55
HP Pavilion dv2500t customizable Notebook PC Order in production
(Estimated to ship on September 20, 2007) Tracking provided upon shipment.

Whew...looks like I'm in the clear so far, I'm so happy =)

 

awesome man good for you.. still wish i got in on the deal.. oh well next time i guess....

 

HEY GUYS,
ITS BACK! THE 30% OFF IS BACK:
HP 30% off $999+ HP Pavilion notebooks
Code: NB3025 Exp: 2007-10-09
And it works, I checked.
Are you gonna get one now zfactor??
Here's my config:

HP Pavilion dv9500t customizable Notebook PC
RL653AV
– Genuine Windows Vista Home Premium (32-bit)
– Intel(R) Core(TM) 2 Duo processor T7500 (2.20 GHz, 4 MB L2 Cache, 800MHz FSB)
– 17.0" WXGA+ High-Definition Ultra HP BrightView Widescreen Display (1440 x 900)
– $50 Off upgrade from 1GB DDR2 System Memory (2 Dimm) to 2GB DDR2 System Memory (2 Dimm)
– 256MB NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GS
– HP Imprint (Radiance) + Fingerprint Reader + Webcam + Microphone
– Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 4965AGN Network Connection and Bluetooth(TM)
– 240GB 7200RPM SATA Dual Hard Drive (120GB x 2)
– FREE Upgrade to LightScribe SuperMulti 8X DVD+/-RW with Double Layer Support!!
– HP ExpressCard Digital/Analog TV Tuner
– High Capacity 8 Cell Lithium Ion Battery
– Microsoft(R) Works 8.0
– Mobile Stereo Earbud Headphones (1 pair)
– HP Home & Home Office Store in-box envelope
- Targus Deluxe Nylon Case - It appears you don't get 30% off on accessories, just the laptop.

Order total $1,548.18
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One note: It costs $275 to upgrade from 240GB 5400rpm to 240GB 7200rpm and with 30% off this comes down to $192.50. Is this worth it? Or would upgrading to 320GB 5400rpm be better for $70 (previously +$100)

Anyway, good luck.

 

Thanks meistro, but I'm afraid we've already made a thread for this. However you probably gave a few people heart-attacks by pulling up this 30% is OVER, thread back up.