6500t no 8600gs card available??

8400just what the title says?? the best they offer if the 8400??

 

The only laptop that they offer the 8600m GS is the DV9500t. Its weird that they don't even offer the 8600m GS on the DV9500z, but they are HP and they suck at providing good video cards.

 

The best they offer is the 8400, which no options to upgrade the card aftermarket. For something like the 8600GS or GT in a 15.4" HP, you'll need to move to a business machine like the 8510p or 8510w...they have a lot more power. Both those machines offer GPUs that are identical to the 8600GT!

 

can those also use the 30% off coupon right now??

 

wow just looked at the pricing of those... for that price ill stick with the dell system.... i am still considering the 9500 though...any thoughts..

 

Gaming on a laptop is over rated. You're really splitting hairs at this point. The HP is the better machine, the Dell is a cookie cutter people buy based on price.
I've loaded up Farcry on my DV6500T and it plays great.

The thing I tell everyone is you probably won't game that much on a laptop. That's because it's more comfortable to game on a desktop, at a big desk, in a comfy chair. When Crysis comes out I'm building a new tower. I game on my DV6500T once in a while, but it just "feels" better to do it on a desktop.

 

I agree with you Robvia, for the most part gaming is better done on desktops. The main reason I wanted a laptop was for portability, I wanted to have a laptop I could take with me on trips and I would still be able to play games and do everything I normally could on my desktop.

I plan on building a desktop soon, but when I do it will cost me around $3,000-$4,000 because I'm going to put the best hardware there is at the time I build it just so it will last me 3 years or so. I love the huge price difference between building your own computer and buying a gaming computer from manufacturers, you can save thousands!

 

Well said, robvia and Envision.

 

Umm hmm, it sort of changes when you don't have a desktop to play around on. I agree that gaming on a laptop is extremely expensive, given that mobile GPUs get outdated quickly and then can't be replaced, but some people need the ability to move their computer around.

I would disagree saying that the HP is the better machine. Both the Pavilions and the Inspirons have their share of problems, and I would rate them equally. However, because HP doesn't have the option of a better GPU in their systems, Dell currently has the edge when selling a mainstream laptop.

 

Thats true Lithius, but at the same time Dell doesn't offer 64-bit on any of their laptops yet and HP does. For me that was a major selling point. HP just needs to get their head out of their #@$ when it comes to putting GPU's in their laptops. I understand that they have better GPU's in their business line, but they should be offering those on their multimedia line as well.

 

The thing is, the dv6000t was designed to house a Go7400. Placing anything more than an 8400m GS would probably face problems with room and heat. This means that HP has to design a new chasis to be able to provide better GPUs - something that's an extreme investment.

Also about Dell, they're probably saving money on tech support by not offering 64-bit these days.

 

Hmmm.. I don't agree. I think Dell is struggling big time with display issues and static in the headphone jack on the 1520's. I think the design is much nicer on the HP. Its lighter, looks better, much better built in speakers, brillant screens.. and are regarded as some of the best in the industry. I also think including HDMI on the dv2500, 6500 and 9500 is a huge plus. Dell inspirons have a nice looking lid and bargain basement styling for everything else. The GPU, is the only pro for getting a dell.. for me at least. I personally feel my HP is better build then the 1420 I had and enjoy the keyboard more and the speakers are so good I can actually use them! I don't have to constantly move the display either because it has good viewing angles.. unlike the dell. Bottom line is, HP has very nice displays.. Dell has allot of crap displays and that is huge in the problem center. If your display is wacked what good is a fast gpu?

Also, the new customer satistfaction index numbers just came out last month and Dell dropped a huge 5 percent.. under gateway even. HP had a slight increase in satisfaction. I know the wall street journal had a good article about Dells issues. In spite of the 150 million dell spent on improving support, its not working.

The things to like about dell is the nice colors, faster gpu and less bloated OS from the factory. Dell also includes the recovery discs and I believe they had the anytime upgrade dvd. Dells run a bit cooler as well but I don't think my HP gets too warm.. its not as bad as I feared. I gladly compromise that for having a much nicer/lighter design.

 

Towers don't cost 3k to build anymore, they've come down to $1500. Most are waiting for Crysis to come out, then it will be time to buy the 8800GT. The problem is, this card has not come out for laptops yet.

Ok, so you take the laptop on the road and you're in a hotel room. First of all, internet at most hotels and airport terminals costs $6 an hour. Not that big of a deal but just the fact you have to pay for internet is a peeve. Next, you're in a hotel room. Unless they have a big round table in the corner, where are you going to play?
The little table with a wooden chair next to the TV? Not exactly the most comfortable setting, which is why I keep posting the same message over and over. You can play laying in the bed with your back up against the head board, but again, it's not that comfy compared to a big computer chair.

Honestly, the DV6500T or DV9500T will cost you about $1500 and play most games of today, then you can build the super desk top in a few months when Crysis comes out.

 

Robvia,

The reason I say that the desktop will cost $3,000-$4,000 is because I will be building a top of the line desktop which will include:

Intel Quad Core
2 or 4 GB of DDR3 RAM
Dual Video Card with SLI support (not sure which ones I'm going with yet)
1TB of storage (most likely in a RAID configuration)
Water Cooling System (with slick case of course)
20" LCD monitor (at least)

Just the Quad Core and DDR3 memory will hit me for $1,500-$2,000. I'm not going to building just any computer, I'm going to be building a beast that I won't have to worry about upgrading for at least 3 or 4 years and will play every game at the highest resolution with the highest settings.

Also, most hotels today offer free internet and at least the hotels I've been in have a pretty spacious desk. Now I know that this isn't the case for most places, but it all depends on the situation. Also, when I want to go to a LAN party or a friends house I don't always want to drag my Desktop everytime.

 

so really how does the 8600gs compare to the 8600gt.. i really havent seen any real answers yet?? will the 8600gs play pretty much everything right now or will it really suck

 

I don't know from experience yet as I haven't received my dv9500t and will be returning it to get the extra 10% off when I received it, but I've heard from many people that it will play current graphics at a little lower resolution at mid-high graphics. The big difference between the GS and GT has 32 stream processors versus the GS having 16. To make up a little bit, the GS has a higher core and shader clock speed than the GT.

 

why cant hp get with it and offer better gpu's

 

Everybody that owns or likes HP has been saying the same thing for quite some time. Hopefully they will change soon enough.

 

Dell had bad screens on a batch of their computers - happens when you release a new line. Remember when HP had the whining CPUs? Customer satisfaction falls when you have some new computers that everyone wants, but you just don't have the means to produce. Too many people ordered computers, and Dell had to rush to get them out. Not like HP has stellar CS themselves. Both companies outsource to save money, and customer satisfaction thus falls. You have to ask yourself - do you want a cheaper computer, or better service? Most people chose the cheaper computer, and then complain when their service is horrible.

I'm not saying that Dell's a better company. I just find that everyone has their own opinions on the companies, and usually very strong ones at that, when most of the companies perform on the same level.

The 8600m GS scores about 2500 on 3DMark06, the 8600m GT about 3300. I know they're synthetic benchmarks, but it's really the only way to get concrete numbers.

I already answered that. Most likely, HP will need to revamp their entire lines to be able to include better GPUs. Chances are, they are already working on their next Pavilion line, it just takes time.

 

cmon dell has had since what may-june when they first started shipping test units and early orders out.. its mid sept soon... bad screens should be gone by now.. remembet dell doe not keep inventory they order it in as they need it.. so no way they had all these laying around in stock..

 

The top of the line in the 8000 series is the 8700M GS which is basically an overclocked 8600M GS (which is found in the DV9500T).

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Comparison-of-Grafic-Cards.130.0.html

You either go with a top of the line Sager with a 7900GTX or get a Sager (or Toshiba) with a 8700M GS which is slightly slower but has DX10. There's nothing faster out there right now. It's up to Nvidia to bring out the Go 8800 not the laptop companies.

Would a 8700M GS be cool in the HP lineup? Yes.

To answer the question, the 8400M GS (DV6500T) plays everything out there right now. How can that be? Because the resolution is only 1280 x 800. Same would be true for the DV9500T, you're only playing at 1440 x 900, unless you hook it up to a monitor.

 

Yeah, in their rush to keep up with demand, they ordered a batch of screens that had problems. Stuff like this happens when you're in a rush.