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    8510p shuts down doing Memtest

    Discussion in 'HP' started by Destiny, May 4, 2008.

  1. Destiny

    Destiny Notebook Deity

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    Have you ever experienced shutdowns while doing Memtest?
    I was testing my 2GB stick on its own, the fan was running like mad, and after probably 10 min laptop shut down.
    Would it be due to the too high temperature? It wasnt happening before (previous BIOSes).

    Anybody had the same thing?
     
  2. boypogi

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    busted sticks
     
  3. Destiny

    Destiny Notebook Deity

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    But when doing the internal BIOS memory test it reports everything fine?
     
  4. namaiki

    namaiki "basically rocks" Super Moderator

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    Whats your CPU and GPU temps like in Windows under load?
     
  5. Destiny

    Destiny Notebook Deity

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    Perfectly normal, 48 Idle, up to 75 under full load even when o/c graphics and gaming. That is all with lover vlotages by RMClock. Without it CPU under load get up to 90C.

    Note. Just testing a different stick (2Gb, came with Vostro 1400 for my gf and so far no shutdown and it went further into the test - previously shutting down around 17%, now already 25 and keeps going).
     
  6. Destiny

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    Update, 26% and a shutdown again. I somehow cant believe its the stick as this is from a brand new laptop...
     
  7. flipfire

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    Its not your RAM, theres no fail-safe thermal shutdown for overheating RAM. So something else is heating up if your fans are going on, which they shouldnt be for memtest

    Download HWmonitor and ORTHOS from my guide and run it. It will stress both CPU and RAM. Check the temps for CPU and thermal zones
     
  8. Destiny

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    flipfire, did you read my post above? It has info on temps with and without running RMClock.
    Funny, the latest Memtest86+ 2.01 shows the CPU to be running at 2195Mhz instead 2GHz while doing the test??

    Anyway, do you thing my 90C during full load is much for this CPU?
     
  9. Quantumstate

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    90 is near boiling. Too much. Overclocked?
     
  10. Destiny

    Destiny Notebook Deity

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    NOT AT ALL...

    That is when doing heavy task like benchmarking OpenGL with SpecViewPerf ie.
     
  11. flipfire

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    You might wanna omit using memtest, i think its causing your CPU to overclock then overheat. Your RAM itself could be fine and its just memtest

    Try using alternatives like using the Vista mem diagnostics with the vista install disc
     
  12. radopod

    radopod Notebook Evangelist

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    90 is dangerous for a CPU! Intel recommends 20-80 for optimum performance. I too would recommend you to use the Windows Memory test just like flipfire.
     
  13. chrixx

    chrixx Product Specialist NBR Reviewer

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    HP's latest BIOS seems to have made the temperature thresholds more conservative, so it could be shutting down due to the high temperatures. I know it will shut down on extremely high temperatures (~ 95 degrees).
     
  14. Destiny

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    So what's top temp that users seem to report without running RMClock on this model?
    Should I be worried that without RMClock it runs so high?
     
  15. bharris

    bharris Notebook Guru

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    Clean out your fan, mine was spiking 90+ like yours under load. I took off keyboard and fan and removed a ton of dust blocking the exhaust...temps are now high 70's under load.
     
  16. Destiny

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    I did that not long time ago. Did it again just in case, as well as I checked if thermal paste didnt come of or sthing.
    I remember that on desktops when you were applying the thermal paste it was ment to be the thinest layer possible, especially when AS5 or similar silver based ones. Does the same thing apply to the HP paste??
     
  17. jerry66

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    i was ionto the high 70's under load , blew out a bunch o dust , now 66-71 under load . with rm it'a at 62-63 under load . does not take long for dust to build up and makr a big difference . never seen temps like yours though , could it be bad bond of thermal paste ?
     
  18. Destiny

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    I dont know really. I guess, when I will visit home next time I will pick my AS3 and apply that - 'my way' - thin layer and not like it is now.

    At the moment CLEAN XP [still doing some drivers/updates etc] shows 49/50C on both cores in Hardware Monitor.
     
  19. jerry66

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    49-50 sounds about right , i'm at 46.6 and 48 and just have e-mail open and 7 or 8 tabs with all the standard hp crap running .
    best thing i did so far to cool things down is undervolting , temps dropped a good 8-10 deg when running at 100% .

    good luck !
     
  20. Destiny

    Destiny Notebook Deity

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    Did that already loong time ago ;)
    Ive just ran Orthos on XP, while doing some installs. Max temp I saw was around 75, after running for 10 min or so. But my gfx is not so low anymore... It used to run at around 13C when started and not going above 20C, but now it is running around 26-28 all the time. Of course it at no load.
     
  21. Ackeron

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    Very strange! My temps are low like yours but I was able to run memtest NP way back in September. Not sure what to say :( Could always lift it up while running memtest so the fan gets a ton of air flow and see what happens...
     
  22. jin07

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    Destiny: Are you still having this problem? My 8510p is almost exactly like yours except I don't OC my GPU and I run XP Pro (same CPU, HDD, and 4 GB RAM, though only 3 GB showing because I'm on a 32 bit OS). I'll run a test on mine if you want.
     
  23. Destiny

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    I guess you could all try with the lates version? I was doing it from a bootable USB stick as well as from a bootable CD.
    Did you read that I have taken the heatpipe off and checked the thermal paste? After spreading it a bit again, my gfx temps went up lol... it used to be less than 20 after booting, now, they start at 26C... I need to examine that again...
    Im going to apply AS3 around the end of the month to see if it will make any change.
     
  24. jin07

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    That's odd. Do you think you applied too much? I've never applied thermal paste myself, but I remember hearing that you need a very thin film. Could you post up a link to the memtest you're using. There's an official one that costs money and then there's one that's free which is based on the paid one.
     
  25. Destiny

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    Honestly, I dont know. I know from my previous desktops that I put together and overclocked to their limits that the more paste you put it actually starts working as a insulator instead of transmitting the heat from the core to a radiator. After taking the system off, I notice that there was a lot of paste on both, gfx and CPU core. The chipset is also connected but it has like a rubber/silicone patch on it to convect heat to radiator.
    At the moment I think that CPU didnt like it when it had a lot of the paste, while gfx core did. I need to fully check it, but I double checked if I tightened the screws up properly.

    Check these links.
    ISO file
    http://www.memtest.org/download/2.01/memtest86+-2.01.iso.zip

    EXE file for a bootable USB disk
    http://www.memtest.org/download/2.01/memtest86+-2.01.exe.zip


    Update:
    Ive just checked insides again and everything is fine. I believe my temps were due to too much paste applied. I just ran Orthos and without RM Clock running temp reached 70C and not even moved from that. I will give memtest another shoot tomorrow. Need my sleep now :)
     
  26. flipfire

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    I recommend using AS5 and checking for any gaps (if there was pads before, then you need pads)
     
  27. Destiny

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    Gaps? Pads? I dont exactly get what you mean?
     
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    Some cpu/gpu's use a thermal pad that sits in between the heatsink and chip. If you remove the pad, there will be a gap. Sometimes thermal paste isnt enough to cover the gap
     
  29. Destiny

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    Oh, right. Now I get it. I know about it, actually 8510p has got it on south/north bridge [dunno which one is exposed there ;)].