8730w compliance to MIL-STD 810F

planning to use my 'mobile' workstation in shadow of sand beach this summer
(with looong power cord extension), is this scenario possible according to
MIL-STD 810F??

anyone experienced problems with wind blowing sand and dust inside??

should i bring few cans of compressed air??

 

Don't know about the 8730w but I have an 8530w which I figure is somewhat similar. Hard for me to gauge what the standard means since my laptop sometimes overheats (albeit during heavy usage) in normal office conditions. I don't want to imagine using it on a beach. Also the fan and cooling assembly don't seem to have anything special (fan seems regular, no intake dust filters etc) so I assume they are just as sensitive as any other laptop cooler to dust and sand.

 

the 8730w normally is a lot cooler than the 8530w but I would never use it near a beach, the sand is later everywhere in your computer, bad idea if you ask me

Sotton

 

The so-called "compliance to MIL-STD 810F" serves mainly marketing purposes, it just means that the notebook has passed certain tests but HP doesn't give you any guarantee for future performance under similar conditions as stated on their site. It's just a standard business-class notebook, it's not designed to handle tough environments nor does it have any additional weather protection features like rugged notebooks.

So treat it like any other notebook, marketing, even if it sounds cool, doesn't help against dust, sand or anything like that.

 

Yeah, they only tested it against certain MIL-STD 810F standards, those being dropping, altitude, vibration, and temperature. And I think only 2 EliteBooks passed the drop test (though I'm not sure which ones, I know that the 8730w is not one of them).

 

^^You can read what standards they claim for any of their notebooks on their site in case you are interested.

This is for the 8730w, I linked it above, but then again these test aren't a guarantee for anything.

Lenovo did the same recenty, so consider it a new marketing trend.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=356200

 

Truth be told my 8530w is phisically more solid than most consumer laptops i have seen (and i've seen most dell, hp and asus models). The palmrest especially is tough. They keyboard is semi spill proof also, my keyboard seems to be nicer and clickier after i spilled a can of beer over it
Other than that it doesn't seem superior to other laptops though. The cooling system is a big disappointment as I would have expected a workstation class machine to have a 15000 max rpm fan that would raise hell but never let the machine overheat under any circumstances. Many people complain it is noisy. It can get somewhat noisy but it should be understood that for this class stability should be no 1 concern. If I wanted a hot silent machine there is always apple.

 

Yes, HP business notebooks are among the best in the industry in terms of build quality and durability along with the Dell Latitudes/Precisions and Lenovo ThinkPads, it's been so for a while.

Now the cooling system in particular has never been HP's strongest point nor has the fan algorithms, some of their previous models run rather hot and were noisy compared to the completion with the same specifications, but they didn't overheat in general. So if the 15.4" version really have such issues, which I have heard about but I'm not sure if it's widespread, then that's not acceptable and should be addressed.

There have been similar complains in the Dell section about the Precision M4400 that uses the same Quadro card, so it may have something to do with the popular Nvidia issues, which of course isn't an excuse for HP. I think that Dell fixed the downclocking and overheating issues with BIOS revisions...

 

well,

blowing dust would be a good description of the situation i was asking for,
what's the procedure for this Procedure I??

 

Well, even if you notebook could potentially pass some blowing dust test, it would probably be full of dust after the test as it doesn't have any additional protection against it, and this dust will kill it in no time.

Here are the MIL-STD-810F standards and test procedures you could read and interpret them as you wish.

In short, Proc. 1 (Blowing Dust) is about the sensitiveness to concentrations of blowing dust, Proc. 2 (Blowing Sand) is about the effect of large sand particles, and Proc. 3 (Settling Dust) is about the effect of the settled dust, which could affect heat dissipation or clog up the fans.

Just don't forget HP's disclaimer at the bottom since the standard warranty won't cover any damage result from similar experiments.

Btw, this is a picture of how a ThinkPad passed the same "Proc. I" looks, and of course you can just wash it under running water as that's not a rugged notebook, not to mention the dust that is probably settled inside.


Good luck with whatever you're planning on doing.