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    @ Envy 14 buyers, which screen option would you go for?

    Discussion in 'HP' started by tybert7, Jun 21, 2010.

  1. tybert7

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    base 1366x768 or the radiance 1600x900?


    Also, for those who would go with the higher res, how much extra would you be willing to spend on it? 100?
     
  2. sasjegbruv123

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    +$100 seems reasonable

    envy 15 it was +$100 for the glossy 1080p screen so it seems reasonable for the envy 14 to have the radiance as a +$100 option
     
  3. tybert7

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    I think it could be as high as 150 to 200, but hopefully not the latter. I recall the dreamcolor screen option on the elitebook 8740w being a 550 dollar upgrade before it was taken down... Higher end panels can cost money, hopefully not too much.
     
  4. wild05kid05

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    900p of course
     
  5. Garar_

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    Well, I still doubt that 1366x768 will be the base, but if it is, the upgrade won't be more than 100 dollars. And probably will result in a lot of angry emails to HP.
     
  6. papalazarou

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    It in the base config. The 1600 x 900 radiance display is a plus for me. I5-540 + HD + slice battery = ideal config. I expect $350-$350 upcharge.
     
  7. screes

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    Everything will be baseline in my config except for the 160gb SSD option and the slice battery.

    So if the baseline is the 1366x768 with a core i3 CPU, then thats what i'll get.

    The only other option i might get is if the baseline is 3gb of memory, i'll pay a little extra for 4gb of memory.
     
  8. E30kid

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    This will be a fiasco if HP doesn't have enough radiance screens to satisfy demand on launch day. In the event that I decide to go with the E14, I will be ordering as soon as they open it up. I couldn't care less about BCB, this laptop is already a steal if it lives up to some of the hype.
     
  9. zeth006

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    But in this case, it's not just a resolution bump. It's an upgrade for better viewing angles and color reproduction. $150-200 sounds more accurate.
     
  10. tybert7

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    I think that would be reasonable, the standard vs the 1080p envy 17 screen is a res bump + 60% vs 72% color gamut bump (supposedly) + brightness bump (200 vs 300 nits?)

    the radiance screen is supposed to be an even bigger jump in gamut (~82%) and an even brighter screen (~350 nits)

    But the panel itself will be a smaller size than a 17 so that should offset some of the extra cost.


    If they try and ask for more than the 200 mark though I think they would really start cutting into the mass adoption of that option. And I am not sure the number of people with no budgetary limit in that area would offset the number of people who did have one, to make it worth it to put the upgrade cost too high. But that is for business people, not me.
     
  11. zeth006

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    I'm not so sure a smaller screen is going to offset the cost that much. 14" and 17" screens are unconventionally sized, making them both pricier to make than 15" screens. We don't know whether the scale of economics is the same for 14" and 17" screens. $200 is the max I'm looking at unless they offer an extremely generous BCB promotion or $350 coupon minimum.
     
  12. screes

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    I agree, my budget is $1500 Tops. So $999 base price + $325 for 160GB SSD + $100ish for slice battery only leaves maybe $100 for an upgraded screen. If there's 25% BCB i might go slightly over my budget.
     
  13. E30kid

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    Wow, only $325 for the 160GB SSD? That's like $100 cheaper than retail if it's an X25-M. I world do that in a heartbeat.
     
  14. zeth006

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    Retail price, you're right. But I have seen it go for just shy of $400 in the past. I'm sure HP could work out a wholesale agreement with Intel to sell the drives for that low, but I'm personally skeptical. Seems to me HP prefers to keep upgrade prices as they are but offer occasional coupons.


    More than likely we'll get some kind of BCB promotion or generous coupon offer within the next 1-2 months that'll keep the laptop with a 160gb SSD within that $1,500 limit.
     
  15. HTWingNut

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    Based on screen upgrades for other Envy's it's $100. They aren't Radiance I don't believe, but I doubt more than $150, maybe even $100.
     
  16. Garar_

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    I don't know where anyone on this thread is getting their base stats, but there is no i3 option for the Envy 14 unless someone shows me something to the contrary. And it really blows that the Radiance isn't the stock screen, as it really should be..
     
  17. HTWingNut

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    You are correct there is no i3. It is i5-430m as lowest CPU.

    Regarding the screen, it's not surprising at all the Radiance isn't the stock screen. Most laptops come with a lower res screen and you have to pay to upgrade to the higher quality and/or resolution screen. In the same way an SSD isn't standard or 8GB RAM isn't standard.
     
  18. Zioep

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    Is it possible to customize an envy 14 yet? Or do we have to wait until sunday to do that?
     
  19. lagitup

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    It isn't up yet.
     
  20. Kuu

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    I'd go with the 1600x900 display, if only just for the resolution bump. 1366x768 is just a really weird resolution personally.
     
  21. L3vi

    L3vi Merry Christmas!

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    I agree, I don't like not being able to sit two windows next to each other.
     
  22. HTWingNut

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    It's 16:9. The reason it's 1366x768 instead of 1280x720 (720p) I believe is for backwards compatability with 1024x768 resolution.
     
  23. d motorman

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    have we even confirmed that we'll even have a choice of different resolutions?
     
  24. HTWingNut

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    Yes, 1366x768 and 1600x900.
     
  25. d motorman

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    where was that confirmed?
     
  26. HTWingNut

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    about a half dozen times already in the Envy 14 availability thread.

    The 1010NR comes with 1366x768 screen, check amazon.com or the HP PDF here. The 1600x900 is an upgrade. It's been adverstised across the board. It's in the Envy brochure too.
     
  27. neothe0ne

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    I think you're confused.

    That brochure says that the Envy 14 only has one screen option: Radiance 1600x900.
     
  28. HTWingNut

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    Well, it's definitely got the 1366x768 based on the 1010NR. 1600x900 was advertised as an upgrade in the several interviews with HP. There's no brochure yet but that's the only thing "in writing" that has been published.
     
  29. neothe0ne

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    What interviews said the Radiance display was an upgrade?
     
  30. Justos

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    i have yet too see proof that the radiance isnt base.
     
  31. HTWingNut

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    Radiance or 1600x900? I'm confused. 1366x768 is base afaik whether its Radiance or not. The 1010NR spec says 1366x768 BrightView Infinity. Whether or not that's actually Radiance, I dunno. Envy 13 comes with a 1366x768 Radiance screen, whether it did before or not I don't know.
     
  32. d motorman

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    The 1010NR is a preconfigured model, that in no way reflects what options HP will give up when they open up ordering.

    I'm not saying that it isn't possible or even likely that there will be an option, rather, we don't have any definitive proof, and we wont untill we see exactly how HP set up the order page. Until then 1600 x 900 is in the 999 dollar configuration.
     
  33. nexus14

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    u do know that pre-configured models are upgraded versions of the base model? so if this pre-configured model has a 1366x768, why is it that you think the base model will carry something higher?
     
  34. p51mustang23

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    I would spend $100 extra for it, reason being that 1366x768 is worth avoiding at all costs. 100 is still waayyy more than it costs them to swap the screens. Really the screen is the only reason I know what an Envy 14 is! :D

    To be fair they should only charge 50-75, but they probably expect everyone to get the 900p so thats where they will make $.
     
  35. d motorman

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    Preconfigured models can vary wildly from store to store and from direct sales to retail, it's not always an 'upgraded version', there is no rule, which was part of my point.

    I never said the base model would carry 'something higher'. The last part of my post was merely stating what we've heard time and time again. But that hardly matters when you read what I said before that. Why don't you re-read my post again? In fact, here, I'll make it easy for you:

    The point I'm making is that its so absurd that people think they know exactly what HP is thinking/going to do. Envy 14 discussion has been overcome with rampant speculation and taken a blind eye to any scientific method.

    And you whine about it like anyone actually gives a rats .
     
  36. nexus14

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    speculation much?


    looks like you're a hypocrite for speculating :) but don't worry we still love u
     
  37. d motorman

    d motorman Notebook Evangelist

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    nice try but unfortunately for you that has basis in factual evidence, rather than piecing together bits and pieces of possible miss information from the internet.

    No, I am not a hypocrite and again you fail to see my point, great job, man.
     
  38. HTWingNut

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    If a pre-configured model comes with a 1366x768 screen, why would you think a base model would com with anything higher. Base model is the lowest common denominator of components.

    Look at the specs of the 1010NR for $1199 and what justifies the extra $200 over the $999 base. i5-450m, 6GB RAM and 500GB HDD are pretty much the "upgrades". Realistic upgrade pricing is i5-450m +$50, 6GB (4GB + 2GB) +$100, 500GB HDD +$50. If they downgraded the screen then the pricing should be at least $100 cheaper.

    There are instances of "special buy" computers made to order by certain resale shops like Best Buy does. But that would not be an HP pre-configured laptop. It would be a "Best Buy" exclusive or whatever.
     
  39. nexus14

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    thank you. it's disappointing that a man named d_motorman isn't able to grasp this simple point
     
  40. d motorman

    d motorman Notebook Evangelist

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    you guys are ing imbeciles, you've completely missed my point. They aren't even decisively hard concepts to grasp, but for some reason (lack of intellect, a mal-formed brain, maybe some kind of fall) you're become devoid of the interpretational skills needed to read something and fully understand it before trying to refute it.
     
  41. HTWingNut

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    Throwing insults aren't going to help matters much. The concept is simple. If a pre-configured model is spec'ed out, you know the base model will have that config at *best*, including the screen.

    Wishing something to happen won't make it happen. Just wait for the ordering to open up.
     
  42. newbiecomp

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    Troll alert
     
  43. hackker

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    I had a question about the higher res screen. If you had a 1600x900 display on the laptop and bumped up the font size to make things more readable (ie: old fart) would it use that same size when you plugged it into a external monitor? Or would it keep the font size you used for the external screen and only use the bigger font size for the laptop screen?
     
  44. d motorman

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    That was my entire point you cretin, sweet christ

    regardless of the halfwits, I'll stick with the 1600x900 whether its an option or not
     
  45. MagusDraco

    MagusDraco Biiiiiiirrrrdmaaaaaaan

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    troll ale- Ok. Enough the both of yas.

    or all of you.


    Before someone says screw it and drags a mod in here.
     
  46. Kuu

    Kuu That Quiet Person

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    Guess there's "Silly" people on every forum nowadays.

    Whether or not its an option, it doesn't really matter who's right or wrong about it, its out of the board user's hands. I love watching the type of people that argue "I ish right and if I am wrong the world ends!!!!!!@12!@12!"

    Now, how about a 1920x1080 screen? All we need is a DPI increase~
     
  47. MagusDraco

    MagusDraco Biiiiiiirrrrdmaaaaaaan

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    HP: 1920x1080?? Can I interest you in an Envy 15 Gen 3...that may or may not exist?
     
  48. neothe0ne

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    Let's go back three pages guys.

    So?
     
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