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    A Noob and his Questions....

    Discussion in 'HP' started by exequiel3k, Oct 21, 2007.

  1. exequiel3k

    exequiel3k Notebook Guru

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    Hey Guys!!!

    I've searched for a while on google and I got tierd of not finding the information I was searching. I'm really messed up with what means what...

    Does having a "Core 2 Duo Processor" mean I have 2 cores? or does it mean something else....

    Im really sorry if I have to ask these dumb questions... but when I went to my local bestbuy store I saw a panel with " 2 Core Duo's..." and I remembered mine was a "Core 2 Duo".... so i was like..."eeeeee I thought I had 2 cores, lollll"

    heck... i'l even ask the following question.... Core = Cpu?? LoLLL. sorry... :(
     
  2. Nvidia

    Nvidia Notebook Consultant

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    Ok, here

    1-Core Duo- A processor with 2 cores

    2-Core 2 Duo- A processor with two core, but higher clocked and faster

    "two Core DUo's" would techniclly mean two core duo processors, but no computer has that, so...

    A core 2 duo isnt two Core Duo's, its has the same # or cores, just two better cores.

    I know the wording can be confusing, but i tried to make it as simple as possible, LOL
     
  3. exequiel3k

    exequiel3k Notebook Guru

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    ohhh, sniff....
    I believe the guy from staples who sold me this laptop with the "t5450 Core 2 Duo" was telling me that I had 2 cores (CPU'S like) running at 1.6ghz each... lolllll then.....

    Well, super thx Nvidia for helping me out better understand the complexity of these words :)
     
  4. miner

    miner Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Yes, it does. The Core 2 Duo or the Core Duo amongst others are dual core processors meaning they have 2 processing cores(or cpu's or just cores) on the same package/socket. These are single processor systems but with 2 processing cores.

    BTW, just so you know two 1.6GHz cores doesnt make it a 3.2GHz.
     
  5. Envision

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    You also forgot the main difference between the core duo and the core 2 duo. The core duo is only 32bit while the core 2 duo is 64bit.

    exequiel, a core duo or core 2 duo is a single physical processor chip with 2 cores inside. Think of it as two physical processors because each core is independent from the other, except for the simple fact that they share the Front Side Bus and the cache.

    So don't worry, you have what the sales guy told you, you just didn't understand it the right way. It's ok though, you have us here on the best notebook forum out there to help you out! :)
     
  6. martin8768

    martin8768 Notebook Enthusiast

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    haha lets not even talk about Core Solo, stay away form them, not to confuse you more, just so that you know, theirs a Core Solo, but dont buy it, its a like a Core Duo, but it has only one core, so
    Core = processor core (old, slow)
    Core 2 = newer processor core (faster)
    Duo = dual core (2 cores in one computer)
    solo = single core (only one core)
    so i hope that clears everything up.
     
  7. exequiel3k

    exequiel3k Notebook Guru

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    Yeahm it really does clear my assumptions!!!! Super thx miner,envision and martin!! it really helped me understand what I had.
    Although, I was wondering though, envision said that they were 64bit... that means I can run a 64 bit Windows???? because the model I have is a dv6565ca from Hp. If soo, does that mean I could add more ram or am I still limited by the hardware?
     
  8. zoidbergslo

    zoidbergslo Notebook Guru

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    Max is 4GB this is hardware limit.
     
  9. Envision

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    You have to be running a 64-bit version of Windows in order to take advantage of the processor being 64-bit. The most famous advantage of 64-bit is the fact that it can support more than 3.2GB of RAM, but there is a hardware limit on your laptop like zoidbergslo states of 4GB). Also, 64-bit processing allows the cpu to process twice the amount of data because it uses 64 pipelines instead of the normal 32. There are a lot of applications that are slowly moving to 64 bit, but most are still stuck on 32-bit because that is where the main market is. The nice thing is, you have a future ready computer for when 64-bit really hits the mainstream and all applications are running it.

    Also, Vista 64-bit has backwards compatibility so when you get a 64-bit OS, you can still run 32-bit applications inside of it.
     
  10. exequiel3k

    exequiel3k Notebook Guru

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    Yay!!!!
    but then why did hP put an 32 bit Windows into a freacking 64 bit laptop (dv6565ca)????

    Its really dumb (hp) might I add.... hence, could I use a 64 Bit Windows Vista AnyTime Upgrade or do I need a Standalone Vista to install properly 64bit windows on my current 32bit dv6565ca laptop....?
     
  11. miner

    miner Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    32bit is most popular and widely supported in terms of drivers. But 64bit has gained lot of ground since the release of Vista but many programs are curently 32bit only plus there might still be some driver issues with older hardware. HP do sell 64bit variants but are limited to Vista Ultimate and their business systems.

    If you want to upgrade to 64bit you will have to do a clean install, you cannot do an in place upgrade.
     
  12. exequiel3k

    exequiel3k Notebook Guru

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    man you guys are good!!!
    but here's a real Doucy....!

    I know Hp has laptops with an geforce8600gs (gt maby)?

    Could I take out my Geforce8400GS and stick one of those in!??? Are there any Issues I could get (OverHeating, Bios settings.... etc..??)
     
  13. surfasb

    surfasb Titles Shmm-itles

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    There is a reason why 32 bit software is still more popular than 64-bit software even though 64 bit processors have been around for a couple of years. It's because you have to essentially rewrite the whole application to port it to a 64 bit operating system. Plus, few applications will benefit greatly from moving to a 64 bit operating system so mainstream adoption of a 64 bit operating system has been slow.

    It's simple economics.
     
  14. lappyhappy

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    In short, no you can't do that. See this thread:

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=86864

    Good luck and happy computing!
     
  15. Envision

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    Graphics cards on HP's as well as 90% of laptops are actually a part of the motherboard, which means you can't replace them. If you went with a Sager you would be able to upgrade and replace video cards because they have a pci-x slot instead of soldering the graphics card onto the motherboard. The DV9500t is the only HP laptop that has the 8600m GS, there are no HP laptops that offer the 8600m GT. You could possibly overclock your video card and squeeze a little more performance out of it, but you won't be able to change it out.
     
  16. exequiel3k

    exequiel3k Notebook Guru

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    Miner...
    "If you want to upgrade to 64bit you will have to do a clean install, you cannot do an in place upgrade."
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    But, can I clean Install (threw the Anytime DvD) a 64bit Installation on my 32Bit dv6565caLaptop??

    ...because in the "Clean Install Guide" by Orev he states that;Can I install a 32bit or 64bit architecture if I have the other one? There is no technical difference between the 32bit and 64bit architectures with regards to activation. That means that if you backup your activation on a 32bit system, then clean install a 64bit version, it will technically work. However, there may be licensing issues with this, so you must determine if you are licensed to do this by looking at the license you have.
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  17. miner

    miner Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Yes, you can install 64bit version on your system. What I meant was that you cannot do an 'upgrade installation' meaning you will have to format your HD and then install the 64bit version. So you will have to backup your data/files before doing it.
     
  18. exequiel3k

    exequiel3k Notebook Guru

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    thx miner!!!
    But Last But Not Least (lolll)...

    does my windows anytime cd have Both 32-64bit of do I have to order a 64bit home premium upgrade dvd....?
     
  19. Envision

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    I believe if you got a 32-bit version of Windows when you bought the laptop you have to purchase a 64-bit version, because the license is only for the 32-bit version. I'm not 100% sure though.

    If you do have to order a 64-bit version of vista, you might as well get ultimate, it has a lot of extra tools, bells, and whistles that are worth the little extra money.
     
  20. Envision

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    Because 32-bit is still what most software programs and the maintstream of computers use. 64-bit has many advantages to it, it just doesn't have the full support from manufacturers yet. That is why people are still using 32-bit OS's and why 64-bit doesn't come as a standard. HP does offer Ultimate 64 bit on some of their laptops, but not all.

    Which Windows Vista version do you currently have? I'm not 100% sure which CD you need, and I'm also not sure if you can upgrade to 64-bit. Sometimes the OS license doesn't support the availability to upgrade to 64 bit from 32, but thats not always the case. I'm just unsure of it so I don't want to give a solid opinion. I'm sure someone else on this site can help you out and give you a better answer than I could.
     
  21. orev

    orev Notebook Virtuoso

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    No, the disc only has 32bit. If you want 64bit, you can order it for less than $10. See my Clean Install Guide for details on where to get it.

    You can use the 64bit version with the same key and license as the version you have, you do not need to buy anything (except for the 64bit disc). As long as you install the same edition (Premium, Ultimate), the activation will work.

    64bit is quickly gaining ground, and so far works pretty well for laptops because all of the hardware is integrated (as long as it's supported). But still, the main reason to use 64bit is if you have 4GB of RAM. Otherwise, there's no compelling reason to run it yet.