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    AFTER orev's clean Vista install

    Discussion in 'HP' started by ret27m, Oct 8, 2007.

  1. ret27m

    ret27m Newbie

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    First off let me say Hello and Thanks to orev for his EXELLENT Vista clean install guide, it worked perfect.

    In the past I have always owned Toshiba laptops (good laptops in my opinion), but I recently bought my 1st HP laptop (DV9410us). I grabbed it at Office Depot for $699.99 and so far I really like it, but like all laptops it comes with too much BloatWare. As I was researching my new treasure I ran across this forum and orev's Clean Vista install WITH NO ACTIVATION guide.

    After I got my restore disks created and tested, my SwSetup folder backed up and my Clean install completed and Activated it was time to get my DRIVERS and Programs loaded.

    BUT how do I make heads and tails of what I do and do not need from the SwSetup folder. Some of the things in the folder are not really clear on exactly what they are. So my first goal was to get just the BASIC drivers loaded so when I looked at my Device Manager there were no problems. So between HP's website and the SwSetup folder I acomplished this with no problem.

    I dont really need any of the software that comes with the laptop as I have my own programs such as OpenOffice, Nero, WinZip etc... BUT! altho my laptop seems to run fine so far with the basics there are still things in the SwSetup folder that I'm not quite sure if I need or not. I'm sure that most of the newer HP laptops come with pretty much the same stuff so I made a list of whats in the SwSetup folder and have identified what I could be 100% sure of, I am listing it here in hopes that others might edit (add too) the list so all of us will know what everything in the folder is. I hope that this list will help others and I hope others will be able to identify what I couldnt.

    I have marked what I feel is NEEDED and NOT NEEDED for a BASIC install to get the laptop up and running smoothly, feel free to correct me if my information is incorrect.


    SwSetup Folder Contents:

    Adobe = Adobe Acrobat Reader / Software NOT NEEDED
    Audio = Sound / Driver NEEDED
    Chipset = Motherboard Chipset / Driver NEEDED
    ESUVT =
    HPASL =
    HPGame = HP Games / Software NOT NEEDED
    hpImgEn h=
    HPUpdate =
    HSC =
    Inetsec = Norton Internet Security / Software NOT NEEDED
    LSHSI = LightScribe / Driver NEEDED if your drive supports it
    Misc2 =
    MISC5 =
    MMFlash = 5 in 1 Memory Card Reader /Driver NEEDED
    Modem = Dial-up Modem / Driver NEEDED
    MSCUVT =
    MSWorks = Microsoft Works / Software NOT NEEDED
    MVEDV = Muvee ver ver6 / Software NOT NEEDED
    Off12 = Microsoft Office Trial / Software NOT NEEDED
    QLB = Quick Launch Buttons /Driver NEEDED
    QPW = QuickPlay / Software NEEDED
    RealRhap = Rhapsody / Software NOT NEEDED
    RoxioCB9 = Roxio Creator Basic ver9 / Software NOT NEEDED
    sp34642 =
    SUNJAVA = Sun Java Script / Software NEEDED
    support =
    sw_ver =
    Touchpad = TouchPad / Driver NEEDED
    TVTnr = TV Tuner / Driver NEEDED if you have the TV Tuner Option
    UG0042 =
    Video = Video / Driver NEEDED
    WCAM1 = Web Cam / Driver NEEDED if you have a built in webcam
    WHNS =
    WLAN = Wireless Lan / Driver NEEDED
    WLASST = HP Wireless Assitant NOT NEEDED
    swsetup = Setup Text File NOT NEEDED
     
  2. nhasian

    nhasian Notebook Enthusiast

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    thats an excellent question. i ran into some confusion myself when i did a clean install of vista following the guide. it could use a list like you've compiled of the folders. TVTnr is for the optional tv tuner. MMFlash is for the memory card reader. Two things you should consider: Drivers/software on HP's website may be newer than the one in your SWsetup folder. you can finder newer video drivers at http://www.tweakforce.com/

    also if you just start the setup file for the driver/software then clicking cancel instead of next to continue the installation you can see what it is.
     
  3. orev

    orev Notebook Virtuoso

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    I was going to start a list like this, but when they have updates, the folders change. Also, I haven't had the same free time to devote to it, as I'm now using my laptop and not playing with it anymore. Anyway, you can get very good clues to what everything is by looking in the .CVA files in each folder. They are text files, so you can view them in notepad.
     
  4. ret27m

    ret27m Newbie

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    Thanks for the quick replies, I have edited the List, I'll edit as I find out what each item actually is.

    I'm still in the play mode since I've only had this laptop for a week, Plus I'm retired from the military and have alot of time on my hands at the moment.
     
  5. sarge_in

    sarge_in Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thanks for putting this together! Will be useful once I reimage once I get the laptop :).

    Also, are there any 'critical' ones that need to be installed absolutely before anything else?! Or can we go in any random manner?!
     
  6. Usman.AK

    Usman.AK Newbie

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    hey can someone tell me what MSCUVT is for in the HP's sw_setup folder..?? in the above u have not mentioned whether or not a person would requier it after a clean install...!! can anyone explain?
     
  7. orev

    orev Notebook Virtuoso

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    Here's my list of the software:

    Adobe
    Acrobat reader 8.0
    AdbeRdr80_en_us.exe

    Audio
    Sound drivers
    setup.exe

    Chipset
    Intel chipset device software
    setup.exe

    ESUVT
    Essential System Updates for MS Vista
    disk1\setup.exe

    Fingerprint_Demo
    Fingerprint reader flash demo. This is just a Flash demo, not the fingerprint reader software
    fingerprint.bat

    HPASL
    ???
    HP Active support library
    collection of tools to help troubleshoot and maintain the computer
    Installed a few services, doesn't make icons in start or on desktop
    sp34642.exe

    HPGame
    HP Games
    iasetup.exe, wwsetup.exe

    hpImgEnh
    HP Image enhancement
    A batch file that just removes icons from the desktop
    imgenh.bat, imgenh2.bat

    HPUpdate
    HP Update software. Check HP to see if you have the most up to date
    drivers and HP software
    setup.exe

    HSC
    HP Help and Support setup
    hphasx86.exe

    Inetsec
    Norton Internet security
    us\symsetup.exe

    LSHSI
    ???
    Something to do with LightScribe. Could be a driver, or just some promo material
    setup.bat

    Misc2
    Ricoh flash media controller driver (SD Card slot reader)
    setup.exe

    Misc5
    Fingerprint Sensor "minimum install"
    ATMinInst32.exe

    MMFlash
    Adobe Flash player
    setup.exe

    Modem
    modem driver
    setup.exe

    MSCUVT
    Critical Updates for Vista
    MSCU for vista
    setup.exe

    MSWorks
    Microsoft works
    us\setup.exe

    MVEDV
    muvee autoproducer 6
    makes videos and slideshows
    setup.exe

    Network
    Realtek network card driver
    setup.exe

    Off12
    MS office trial
    setup.bat

    QLB
    HP quick launch buttons
    program the HP Quick Launch Buttons on the keyboard or use the default settings.
    disk1\setup.exe

    QPW
    HP quickplay
    setup.exe

    RealRhap
    realnetwork rhapsody
    setup.exe

    Robson
    Intel(r) Diamond Lake NAND 'RHCI' Disk Cache Controller - 444E
    Vista Intel Robson Technology Driver
    setup.exe

    RoxioCB9
    Roxio Creator Basic 9
    setup.exe

    sp34642
    HP active support library
    setup.exe

    SUNJAVA
    Sun Java
    setup.exe

    support
    ???
    tools\gnunicnv.exe

    sw_ver
    ???

    Touchpad
    touchpad driver
    setup.exe

    TVTnr
    TV tuner driver
    PD300D DVD Encoder
    dpinst_setup.exe

    UG0056
    HP user guides
    setup.exe

    VDFUpdate
    Norton antivirus definitions update
    setup.exe

    Video
    nVidia GeForce series video driver
    setup.exe

    VSAM
    Verisoft Access Manager Finger Print Reader
    setupiam.exe

    WHNS
    Wireless Home Network Setup
    HPNetworkAssistant.exe

    WLAN2
    Intel PRO/Wireless drivers for the Intel PRO/Wireless Network Connection and Adapters
    DPInst32.exe / DPinst64.exe

    WLASST
    HP Wireless Assistant
    disk1\setup.exe
     
  8. kanehi

    kanehi Notebook Deity

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    The easiest why of clean install is to download the latest drivers from HP and set that aside on a disc and when you install Vista you can use these drivers, one by one. Vista recognizes new drivers automatically but just in case download the recent drivers from HP.
     
  9. jtmat

    jtmat Notebook Evangelist

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    I agree... and plus, the hp site does an excellent job of marking what is "really needed" and what is not. Most of the stuff on their site is good, except for some of those hp help things... hp update, etc... That came on last night, and it crippled my computer... don't know how, but it did... bloat to the max.
     
  10. flipfire

    flipfire Moderately Boss

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    Thanks for this. Gonna finally do the clean install after like a month of looking for vista. I finally got a hold off a Windows Anytime DVD off ebay. Had to pay $15 for it though since its unavailable here in Aust... worth it i guess.

    I gotta add to the folder list: BTooth = Bluetooth drivers . Also i saw mine has WLAN and WLAN2 folders, not sure why theres 2 ill find out later
     
  11. kekinash

    kekinash Notebook Guru

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    Quoting my self at post: http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=175220

    "ESU and MSCU are windows vista .msi patches in a exe package. HP install the packages but doesn't install the patches (msi) automatically , so you must go to the Program Files and under ESU and MSCU install them manually. Quite stupid from HP. Some msi will tell you they are not for your machine, you can ignore them.
    You can copy the msi from Program files to another place to keep them for future use, and uninstall the ESU and MSCU, that takes quite a lot hard disk space (close to 100 mb). And install the msi from where you keep them one by one, just don't reboot the computer until you finish installing all ( ignore prompts to reboot now)"

    Inside this exe are x86 and 64 bit msi patches.
     
  12. flipfire

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    Is it nesscessary to instal the ESU and MSCU folders? Doesnt Windows Update do those patches for you?
     
  13. kekinash

    kekinash Notebook Guru

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    Quoting myself again:
    "Uhmm, no exactly. Some of them you have to look for them at Microsoft site, because are related to specific problems, so you normally don't get them through Microsoft update.
    Several are specific to laptops only, so there's little insterest for desktop users. That's why you don't get them throught windows update."
     
  14. flipfire

    flipfire Moderately Boss

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    Nevermind i just checked my SW folder and neither ESU or MSCU were there

    More folders to add on the list for DV2500:
    WLAN = Broadcom 802.11 Network Adapter Driver (wireless lan)
    WLAN2 = Intel PRO/Wireless drivers for the Intel PRO/Wireless Network Connection and Adapters (wired lan)
    SP35384 = Lightscribe Host program, enables lightscribe. (Its best if you download this from the actual lightscribe website as its the latest.)
    MISC5 = For me this was the webcam drivers. Its best you replace this driver with Acer Crysal Eye drivers if you have a Chicony webcam
     
  15. darrow

    darrow Notebook Geek

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    nevermind :eek:
     
  16. mntrryrodriguez

    mntrryrodriguez Notebook Consultant

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    did you already complete the clean install? If you can access the internet you should just get the drivers that are online. Thats the best thing to do IMO. Try not to get the drivers from the HP site as they tend to be a little older than the ones you would find in the Hardware manufacturer's website.
     
  17. darrow

    darrow Notebook Geek

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    Thanks. Well, I went back and looked at my dvd backup of the SwSetup files again and the drivers that previously would not allow me to run the setup are working now. Maybe I needed an extra restart between one of the updates.

    I haven't run into any more problems so far.
     
  18. karthiktha

    karthiktha Notebook Enthusiast

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    hi.. pls help me.. i have hp pavilion 6502au notebook.. my fingerprint reader is not working..i am not able to run mmflash.. is it connected to fingerprint reader..