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    AMD Llano APUs coming to HP Pavilion

    Discussion in 'HP' started by radukr, Jun 14, 2011.

  1. radukr

    radukr Notebook Geek

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    I am looking forward to How the Hybrid crossfire x performs.
    It should have atleast 30% gain to really persuade me.
     
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    mjl2116 Notebook Consultant

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    They are coming out pretty soon...maybe i'll return the dv6t 6100 that i just got a week ago lol...

    Thanks for the heads up sir
     
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    Dreamycreamy Notebook Consultant

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    So are these basically better than the Intel stuff?

    And is it coming to the dm4x?

    :)
     
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    Falco152 Notebook Demon

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    I don't know if they even better than the Intel's. But at least those amd models get support directly from AMD instead waiting for HP release theirs. Which is a drawback for those with Intel Chipset with AMD Cards.
     
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    michaelearth Notebook Geek

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    I just bought my dv6 i7 (the best i7 available ) should I return this and her one with these new AND chips? What are the advantages?
     
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    Althernai Notebook Virtuoso

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    There is a good review of them at AnandTech. The advantages are that both the discreet and integrated GPUs are from AMD and they have a sort of asymmetric CrossFire thing that allows them to work together. It doesn't work correctly for all games right now, but it should eventually be fixed with better drivers. Also, the battery life may be a little bit better.

    The disadvantage is that the CPU is much worse. Compared to the A8-3500M (the third most powerful of the quad-core Llano APUs), the i7-2630QM is about 1.8 times faster in single-threaded applications and about 2-2.6 times faster in multi-threaded ones. I do not exaggerate; the difference is literally more than a 100% in most cases. The Llano CPU is so bad that in CPU-heavy games like StarCraft II, Llano actually loses to Intel's integrated Sandy Bridge graphics at low settings despite having a much more powerful GPU.
     
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    Kahn20 Notebook Consultant

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    Absolutely not. I wouldn't even recommend it if you have the 2630. The CPUs are far inferior to the Sandy Bridge line, with pathetic clock speeds, and a much smaller L2 cache. Their GPUs are better than the Intel on-boards, but still not up to snuff with independent graphics cards.

    The Llano's main competitor is the Intel Atom processor, not the i series. It is great for enhancing battery life, and boosting graphics power for those with onboard graphics. There will be some really great netbooks coming out with the Llano, but I honestly have no idea why HP is sticking them in the higher-end laptops.
     
  9. Beradon

    Beradon Notebook Evangelist

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    I was going to say the same as everyone above me.

    The Sandybridge processors are head and shoulders above everything AMD has to offer right now. I wouldnt even consider a switch if you have an i5 or i7 sandy.

    You'll notice in that Anandtech link that every single instance of i7-2630qm + GT540m outperformed the Llano by a fair margin, and our 6770m is a stronger graphics performer than the GT540 by a pretty reasonably amount.
     
  10. Jayayess1190

    Jayayess1190 Waiting on Intel Cannonlake

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    AMD processors have a completly different architecture compared to an Intel cpu, so that's why they have smaller amount of L2 cache. And also, Llano is a Sandy Bridge competitor, not Atom. Brazos competes with Atom.
     
  11. teotuf

    teotuf Notebook Evangelist

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    Llano is a competition for sandy bridge processors, but only in computers without discrete graphics cards. The AMD 6620G is miles ahead of HD 3000, but once you step into even the 6630m (let alone the 6700m series), all that advantage is lost. Aside from the better integrated graphics, Llano has nothing on sandy bridge processors, even the power consumption is at least comparable.
     
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    Brazos is competing against Atom, Llano is meant to compete against SB. And one thing Llano does have on SB is price. The draw of it is enough power with the lowest price.