AMD Turion X2 Ultra

I was wondering how does this CPU compare to the Intel line-up.
I could not find any benchmarks that compare it head to head.

So would it be equivalent to T6600 or P7450 C2Dou's series?

AMD Turion Ultra ZM-82 "Griffin" 65nm
Frequency: 2200 MHz
L2 Cache: 2 x 1 MB
Hyper Transport: 1800 MHz
Multiplier: 11x
Power Consumption: 35 W Socket S1G2

Thanks much in advance!

 

It is slower than T6600, barely comparable to T6400, which is still a bit faster and cooler also.

BTW all AMD processors have hardware virtualization, instead only Intel expensive processors have it. This means that you cannot use XP mode with Windows 7.

In terms of perceptible performance, you won't notice any difference. Also AMDs will have a bit less battery lifetime maybe, but I'm not sure about.

Also take in consideration that AMD has put out newer Turion II processors that are faster, cooler and the battery will last longer.

edit: consider also that, on the low-end machines, AMD laptops have generally much better video section than intel. This means that AMD offer decent 3D performances and AVC/H264 hardware stream decoding, while Intel have not.

 

All AMD notebook CPUs are unfortunately a little worse than c2d intel ones, generally more heat and lower battery life - but AMD is about value and the whole package - so you get 3200/4200 igp as bare minimum with them compared to crappy x4500. I'd like to know how a 4200 with decent c2d fares alongside a 9400m with c2d, as it's not fair comparing super-cheap sempron+4200 with Core2duo+9400m.

Point is - squeezed for money and want an alrounder - get AMD + ATI (AMD Vision stickers help here), squeezed for money and want battery life, get a subnotebook/netbook. An everyday user probably won't notice much of the difference between an amd cpu and an intel cpu, but they will notice the difference between ati graphics (integrated or not - they do the job) and intel graphics (downright abysmal to just about sufficient)

 

Thanks for support guys!
The main reason for asking is because when looking at HP Artist Edition, which comes with AMD ZM-82, ATI 4650 1gb DDR3, 4gb RAM, how much will the CPU cripple its gaming performance?

Is it overall a nice combo or no?

How will it say compare to the performance of a MacBook with P7450 @2.26, and 9400m.

Did you mean DO have hardware virtualization or DONT?
I think i did see an option in BIOS with enabling Visrtualization Technology.

 

Much better performance. The 4650 is a borderline high-end card and the ZM-82 is good enough to play most games on the market

 

Hmm...
But doesnt CPU play a big role when it comes to gaming?
I was always under the impression that CPU is equal if not more important than the GPU.

How much performance will i gain, if i update my CPU to like ZM-88 @ 2.5Ghz?

 

ZM series are now old AMD mobile CPU's. The current series are M300 to M640. They are about 20% faster specially M500 and over. Only now AMD achieved Core2Duo level.

 

The GPU is actually a much more important component in gaming than the CPU.

As for the ZM-88, it is kind of rare so I have actually never seen benchmarks on but I would guess it would perform slightly better than a T6600. The newer Turion II series will perform slightly better than that still but their main draw is that they produce the same amount of heat and use the same power as C2D's.

 

ZM-86 it is at great distance from T6600 so i doubt ZM-88 it is even near it.

 

So basically you are saying that ZM-82 is like T4300?

 

Hehe, I wrote a confusing sentence.
All AMD dual core (and quad cores and some recent single cores too) processors have hardware virtualization, including Mobile Athlons and Turions, so XP Mode will work.

Instead, only some Intel processors (mostly high-end dual core and quad core desktop/mobile processors) have virtualization. Processors without virtualization cannot use XP mode in Windows 7.

 

CPU is important, but it is much more important to have a balanced machine.
You will go nowhere with a Quad core processor and integrated graphics, for example.

ZM-8x and hd4650 always offer good balanced configuration.

 

Didn't checked but you can get the benchmarks here and compare: http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Processors-Benchmarklist.2436.0.html

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Turions before this last series M.xxx didn't had virtualization.

 

Incorrect the first turions with virtualization were the 90nm Taylor and Trinidad core turion x2s from 2006. These were the first generation turion x2s and they use socket s1g1. All turions since these processors were launched have had AMD-V (virtualization) built in.

 

Absolutely false.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=5496232&postcount=11

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMD-V#AMD_virtualization_.28AMD-V.29

 

AMD lists with virtualization only this mobile processors:

AMD Athlon™ Neo X2 Dual-Core processor L325
AMD Turion™ Neo X2 Dual-Core Mobile processor L625
AMD Athlon II Dual-Core Processors for Notebook PCs M320
AMD Athlon II Dual-Core Processors for Notebook PCs M300
AMD Turion II Dual-Core Mobile Processors M520
AMD Turion II Dual-Core Mobile Processors M500
AMD Turion II Ultra Dual-Core Mobile Processors M640
AMD Turion II Ultra Dual-Core Mobile Processors M620
AMD Turion II Ultra Dual-Core Mobile Processors M600
AMD Athlon™ Neo Processor for Ultrathin Notebooks MV-40
AMD Sempron™ Processor for Ultrathin Notebooks 210U
AMD Sempron™ Processor for Notebook PCs M100

http://products.amd.com/en-us/NotebookCPUResult.aspx

 

For example page of AMD Turion™ X2 Ultra Dual-Core Mobile Processor ZM-86 a 65nm SOI.

Virtualization: NO

http://products.amd.com/en-us/NotebookCPUDetail.aspx?id=435&f1=&f2=&f3=&f4=&f5=&f6=&f7=&f8=&f9=

 

Unfortunately, that listing from AMD is incorrect. I have a ZM-86 in my tx2500z and it has virtualization support. Previously, my V3000z with the Turion TL-50 had virtualization support as well. As others have indicated AMD has pretty much included virtualization support in the dual cores for the past 2 years. Their main page for the Turion/Turion Ultra inclde info regarding VT support...
http://www.amd.com/us/products/notebook/processors/turion-x2/Pages/turion-x2-mobile-features.aspx

 

Is there any test you can do in your system that can give evidence that supports virtualization?
I am sorry but i can't believe that AMD have their CPU database all wrong without further evidence.

 

Yes, errors can happen!

 

Thanks. I stand corrected.

 

Both AMD and Intel have tons of errors in those cpu listings. Wikipedia pages are far more accurate.