AMD processor upgradability

I've got the DV2310us which comes with the AMD Turion 64 x 2 (the TL-52). This is a 1.8 GHz proc, and I'd like to go up to the faster one in the line up, which is the TL-64, a 2.2 GHz AMD Turion 64 x 2.

Does anyone know if anything needs to be done to the BIOS for this upgrade to work?

Thanks,

E

 

Welcome to NBR.

Nothing would need to be done to the BIOS in order to upgrade, but it would void your warranty. In general, unless your completing some serious processor dependant tasks on the notebook, a processor upgrade won't make that much of a difference. Most tasks simply don't invlove the processor to the point it governs overall speed.

 

Just a correction to the the original post, the TL-52 runs @ 1.6Ghz not 1.8Ghz as said... the TL-56 is what runs @ 1.8Ghz

AFAIK you can upgrade your turion X2 to a faster one without worrying about the Bios, all current turion x2's use socket S1 so you shouldn't have any problems with them being pin compatible. But as Zero pointed out upgrading your processor will void your warranty remember this...

 

It's a simple swap, but like Zero said, unless you are absolutely maxing out ur current cpu, then getting a faster one won't do that much for you. What's your ram and hard drive like? Maxing out ur ram and getting a 7200rpm hard drive will net you a much bigger increase in performance than a mere .4GHz

 

Correction - you're right, it is a 1.6 - sorry about the typo.

I've got 1 G of RAM (512 x 2), and a 5400 RPM drive.

I'm doing okay with the current setup in terms of system response and funcionality. I'm not really running too many high demand programs...

I'm just doing a little research after having bought it. I got it for a really good price and wanted to just see where I could go with the system in the next year or so.


Thanks,

E

 

What would concern me would be the heatsink, as HP only offers up to the TL-60 on the dv2000/6000 series.

 

Heat output could be a problem as R4000 mentioned. The faster models, like the TL-60, have a TDP of 35 Watts, whereas the current TL-52 you have installed has a TDP of 31 Watts. If the notebook supports that processor, then you should be fine with installing it up to that range. There aren't any Turion X2 processors that have a TDP more than 35 Watts.

 

Also, undervolting the new cpu will definitely help with the temps and should be enough for the heatsink. I mean if it can cool a stock voltage 2.0, then it will definitely cool an undervolted 2.2 (which will end up being less volts than the stock 2.0)

 

Wait for the new 65nm Turions to be buyable from Newegg/eWiz/etc, and for HP to update their BIOS to support the new cores. They'll run cooler, their official TDP ratings notwithstanding. If you're going to go through the trouble of disassembling the notebook and voiding your warranty you might as well go straight for the latest and greatest chip. There is a chance that HP won't update their BIOS though. Get the service manual from hp.com (Software page for your notebook, Manuals link on the left-hand side) and decide whether you really, really want to do that.

I agree with the previous replies. Swapping CPUs is more for fun than any practical reason. If I were buying new and had a choice I'd buy the fastest CPU I could afford, just because.

 

It'd be great if HP did upgrade their BIOS being internal draft N cards are now becoming available.

 

What will probably happen is that HP will release refreshed models with the 65nm Turions, with an entirely new system board (if what they did for the Intel refresh is any indication).

 

About the Processor Upgrade I have a Gateway MX6448 which has been pretty good so far. It came factory with the TL-50, 4200rpm 120g HD and 1gb 533 DDR2. I have upgraded to - TL-52, 5400rpm 160g HD and 2gb Dual Channel 667 DDR2. And all that has maybe put me .3 higher on Vistas Performance Scale. I was at a 2.8 now Im at 3.1. So going all out on a laptop doesnt do much justice.

 

The Vista performance scale is equal to the lowest rated subsystem in your notebook, usually the GPU that you can't upgrade. So getting the scale to budge at all is pretty good (thanks to the higher-bandwidth RAM I'm sure). Some of the other components should have moved more. Still, going from a TL50 to a TL52 isn't much of a bump. The HD and RAM upgrades you did should have made a substantial difference.

I believe 802.11n requires a different antenna configuration so you'd need more than a BIOS upgrade to use it effectively. Replacing the antennas that are mounted behind the screen is nontrivial. I'd settle for being able to swap in an Atheros 802.11g card without having to hack the BIOS. Or if HP could simply smack Broadcom for us and make them cough up Linux drivers...

Speaking of Linux, Fedora 7 was released today:
http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/

 

Well no there isnt much of a difference between the TL-50 and 52 except the 50 has 2x256 L1 and the 52 has 2x512 ... so i figured that would help a little with processes.

 

How did the upgrade go? Was it difficult to do? I've changed cpus on desktops, but never notebooks.

 

Can I upgrade to the AMD TURION 64X2 MOBILE TL-62?
See my sig for specs. Would this be harder to cool?

I'm thinking of doing that sometime late winter as every 6 months, new cpu's come out and drive down prices.

 

I wouldn't, as the TL-62 was never available in the older V6000. I doubt the BIOS would even recognize it............

 

So, was the TL-58 the fastest the v6000 could use?

 

Technically a TL-64 will work, as the V6000 and dv6000 AMDs share the same BIOS (and it was offered on the latter). It was only the TL-62 and TL-66 that appeared in the x500 refresh, aside from the TK-55 (which would not be an upgrade anyway).......

 

When you say "Technically" it will work... what is the catch? Heat? or?

 

Heat, as the TL-64 will run warmer. On the plus side, using proper heatsink compound like Artic Silver should negate most of the effect (especially considering the garbage HP uses from the factory)........

 

I may as well run the TL-64 then. Where would be the best place to buy one?
Newegg? Ebay? or?
I will start looking between Jan-March

 

There are not many well-known vendors that have them yet, and if they do the prices are absurd. Anyway, I would wait for the 65nm ones to hit wide retail circulation first.

 

I plan to wait until March-May anyway. Prices and availability should be better by then.