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    AMD runs hotter than Intel? AMD in trouble? Thoughts?

    Discussion in 'HP' started by jack53, Jan 18, 2008.

  1. jack53

    jack53 Dell XPS 9360 i7 Lover!

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    From what I've been reading on these boards is it appears that AMD runs considerably hotter than the Intel cpu's are. Also I was reading where AMD had a terrible year in 2007 as over the past four quarters AMD has operated with a combined 2.2 Billion loss! :eek: Part of the problem was their Barcelonia quad-core processor.

    I think you will see HP not running so many of their notebooks with AMD cpu's in the future. It seems that it is 50/50 lately AMD/Intel.

    I do believe it was the AMD cpu that was in my notebook was running too hot and why the motherboard failed recently. My next notebook is NOT going to have a AMD in it.

    Thoughts?
     
  2. sendmarksmail

    sendmarksmail Notebook Evangelist

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    You're pretty much right on. I found that AMD Turions X2 tend to be on the hotter side compared with the Intel C2D. My new machine, coming next week is an Intel C2D @ 2.2GHz. I'm sticking with Intel from now on. Also sticking to Intel Wireless Cards since they offer better performance and battery life based on my experiences versus the Broadcom or Realtek wireless cards.
     
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    Nearly all of that loss was a noncash charge to write down goodwill from their purchase of ATI. It doesn't mean much. AMD stock rallied today on the news.

    The temperature difference thing is vastly overhyped. We're seeing dv9700t's and other Intel notebooks with the same overheating problem. My guess is that there's a bad batch of power bricks out there. There's at least one report of temperatures decreasing when the notebook is put on battery power. My dv9000z has no such issues.
     
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    thnksfrthmmrs Notebook Evangelist

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    Yes, it is true that AMD processors run hotter than Intel Core 2 Duos. It's kinda ironic, because a couple of years ago it was the opposite with Pentium 4s running hotter than their AMD counterparts. Also current Core 2 Duos are more powerful than AMD. Right now AMD's falling back and I hope they can catch up soon, because competition's always good lol.
     
  5. jack53

    jack53 Dell XPS 9360 i7 Lover!

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    Can you imagine what the prices would be if AMD went under and Intel was the sole monopoly of CPU's? :eek:
     
  6. jack53

    jack53 Dell XPS 9360 i7 Lover!

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    Lessee here... you must have a AMD in your machine? :rolleyes: :)

    I think the cpu must be on a power down mode to conserve the battery power and why it runs cooler then?
     
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    flipfire Moderately Boss

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    Ive always found AMD to run hotter than Intel since day 1 but hey thats just me. Ive always stuck with Intel unless theres budget.
     
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    His point is that HP's running hot isn't because of what processor, AMD or Intel, instead, it could be because of the heatsinks.
     
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    Not the heatsink, that appears to be working, but I'm guessing the power brick. There are too many threads on this board about newer AMD and Intel notebooks running too hot lately. It is... curious. My newest is a dv9000z, a revision or two older than the folks having problems.
     
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    The dv2/6/9 series has always run somewhat hot in the way that the user can physically feel the heat, esp. on the left side of the computer where the HDD is. For example, even though the HP is running say, 50 degrees, compared to my Asus which may run at 60, the HP seems hotter because the user can actually feel the heat, whereas the cooling system in my Asus pushes all the heat out the back.
     
  13. marmion

    marmion Notebook Consultant

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    If you're so concerned with the heat when using power, download something like Notebook Hardware Control or RMClock and lock the CPU at maximum battery/lowest multiplier (eg with C2D you will generally run at 800Mhz).
    I do this all the time on my 6910p (unless I need the power), so generally I'm running at mid-low 40 C.
    Only change to dynamic switching/max multiplier when you need that extra grunt when playing games or something else CPU intensive.
    Also, since the dv series are thinner and lighter than other brands, they will tend to heat up more.
    Its not a fault, its just there because of demand for thinner/lighter notebooks :)
     
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    I bet none of the AMD processors run as hot as my Prescott P4 3.2 ghz proc!!! 50-70c is common for my toaster baby!!! Keeps me warm during the winter.

    AMD's quad core blunder, paying for the over-priced ATI company is what killed AMD in 2007. Let's be glad its over and hope that AMD makes another run at Intel ... I'll be more than happy to upgrade my AMD 3200+ desktop to something that will kick Intel's Core 2 Duo proc.
     
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    these kind of acquisitions take 1-2 years to fully develop... i don't see amd back in the ring for another year.
     
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    grabber_grabbs Notebook Guru

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    Have a DV9612ca here with no heat issue at all, quite the opposite.
    Very satisfied of the stability of that CPU.

    You cannot immagine how the fan collect all the dust you might have on your desk. Take a look at your heatsink/fan and clean it.
    Mine is clean and no problems.

    Have a nice day.
     
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    My AMD cpu no longer runs "hot" after the recent HP BIOS update:
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=198751

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    HP released a new HP Notebook System BIOS for Notebooks with AMD Processors (Microsoft Windows/Vista-Based).

    My CPU temps went way down from ~50C to ~28C.

    [​IMG]

    Check if your HP notebook requires this update
    Click Start Menu
    Type "HP Update" (without quotes)
    Press the ENTER key​

    Quote from an HP engineer from HP's support forum: