Bloatware in HP's

I know its insane how much bloatware are in hp's, but i recently bought a dv5z notebook from bestbuy and had about ~80 processes running at startup, i know this is insanely high for compared to my desktop that has around ~35. I spent about 2-3 hours trying to clean some of the crap out and now it has 71 processes starting on my notebook. It still seems like a lot to me, but I don't know if between being a notebook and vista might have this many more programs running at start up.

If someone could please help me I know this can't be right.

 

CCleaner is FTW

 

That's about what I'm running after doing a cleaning. I really didn't find that much bloatware this time around. I expected to be able to remove a lot more than I actually did.

 

Just do a clean install. No matter what programs (like CCleaner) you use, it'll never clean all the cruft out.

 

Yeah, you can borrow a friends disk and use the key on the bottom of your laptop.

 

Go into Task Manager, Processes tab, Show for all users.
View menu > Select columns...
Check the "Command line" and "Description" boxes (or make sure they're checked).
Click OK.
Make the Task Manager window really wide.
Post a screenshot here. (You'll probably need two screenshots.)

 

how exactly do you go about doing a clean install? i have a copy of vista home prem. 32 bit upgrade... but my new DV5T has 64 bit with 4gb of ram. grr. would i have to use alternative methods of obtaining that version then?

and when you do a clean install... does it remove the ability to do a system restore from the HP system restore partition? and too, is there a way to do a clean install from that partition??

 

I cleaned up my HP notebook myself, without doing a clean install. It looks to have about 45 processes (for all users) running according to TaskMgr right now.

 

Yes, unless you're OK with using the 32-bit version instead.

No, that will reinstall all the bloatware, just like if you use the recovery DVDs that you can burn. I deleted the restore partition, as it's a waste of space. Then again, I completely got rid of Vista, so it's not exactly the same thing ;/

 

okay thanks. ill check around on what i can do. otherwise i might have to order the discs through windows marketplace for like 13$. sigh.

 

Ok this is what i got...





While I was doing this the number of programs running was constantly changing from around 70 to 75, as well as the cpu usage was jumping from around 10% to about 25%.

Thanks for your help!

 

Just go to MSCONFIG and disable health check, java updater, hpqtoaster, and quickplay buttons, etc.

That should cut down like 5-20 processes that are unneeded.

 

Yeah. Although I like to use Windows Defender for this. Go to Defender > Tools > Software Explorer > Startup Programs > Show for all users.

Turn off all the HP stuff... except maybe the Quickplay stuff if you want to use the media control buttons.

Turn off reader_sl.exe (Adobe Reader), and jusched.exe (Java updater).

Turn off everything from Apple: iPodService, AppleMobileDeviceService, iTunesHelper, mDNSResponder (unless you want iTunes music sharing), qttask.exe.

Also run "services.msc" and disable AppleMobileDeviceService and iPodService there. Although you may need one of them if you want to sync an iPod... not sure. You shouldn't need both though.

In Windows Media Player, you can turn off music sharing... that should cut out a couple processes. It's in WMP's Options... I forget the exact box you need to check/uncheck, but poke around.

Other things to turn off... you should be able to figure out from the Description field. Like if you don't use your modem, turn off the modem-related one. Same w/ Lightscribe. etc. Leave stuff from Microsoft alone though... unless you understand what it is and you're fairly sure don't need it.

You can turn off Wireless-related ones anyway... since wireless will probably work fine using Windows' built-in stuff, without any special processes. (At least it does on my machine... may depend on your card though.)

And you can be aggressive, since it's easy to turn something back on again if you need it.

Finally, if you haven't already done so... download FoxIt Reader AND make it your default PDF reader in both Windows and in your main web browser. 10 X faster than Adobe Reader... I no longer fear clicking on PDF links by accident.

 

Just Reinstall the opporating system. when i got my laptop it asked me to burn 4 DVDS, i wiped the hdd and inserted disc 1 which installed basic windows, then disk 2 to install the drivers once i had installed windows, disk 3 had utilities, and disk 4 had the bloatware i have ~27 processes including HP Protect tools which is 4 processes (Y)

 

MSCONFIG on my HP notebook rinning Vista Home Premium/SP1:

 

I've done what most everyone has mentioned and its really only helped by decreasing about 4 or 5 programs at the start so I want to try and just completely reinstall vista, but I can't find where to burn my recovery discs which I'm assuming is what discs you're talking about Bean. Where do I find the option where it has me burn these discs?

 

No idea, but remember that you can't use those discs for reinstalling.

 

Check out the following webpage.
It will help you understand what each service does and if it's necessary for you, and thus customize your Vista and get rid of tons of services not needed.
Even if you run a clean install, Vista are full of unneeded services.
Customize them according to your needs.
I got rid of at least 25 .

Code:

Application Experience - Default: Automatic (Started)
- Safe: Leave as is

Application Information - Default: Manual (Started)
- Safe: Leave as is

Application Layer Gateway Service - Default: Manual
- Used for certain software services | If this service is started already, leave on Manual (Safe) | If it is not, set to Disabled

Application Management - Default: Manual
- If you don't "deploy software through Group Policy", Set to Disabled

Background Intelligent Transfer Service - Default: Automatic (Delayed Start) (Started)
- Safe: Leave as is (unless you don't use Windows Update)

Base Filtering Engine - Default: Automatic (Started)
- Disabling this service reduces security of the OS (needed for firewall, some unusual protocols, remote access, and internet connection sharing), Safe: Leave as is

Block Level Backup Engine Service - Default: Manual
- Since this service is on manual and does not start, it may be needed at some point, but it isn't a critical service

Certificate Propagation - Default: Manual
- If you don't use Smart Cards, Safe: Set to Disabled

CNG Key Isolation - Default: Manual
- This service may be needed if you are on Wired/Wireless Lan Autoconfig Since and will be using EAP (Extensible Authentication Protocol), Otherwise: Set to Disabled

COM+ Event System - Default: Automatic (Started)
- Responsible for many things including the Backup and Restore Center, Safe: Leave as is

COM+ System Application - Default: Manual
- Since this service is on manual and does not start, it may be needed at some point, but it isn't a critical service

Computer Browser - Default: Automatic
- If you aren't on a network, Safe: Set to Disabled

Cryptographic Services - Default: Automatic (Started)
- Needed for some connections/websites (Microsoft/Windows Update?), confirms signatures of windows files, Safe: Leave as is

DCOM Server Process Launcher - Default: Automatic (Started)
- Safe: Leave as is

Desktop Window Manager Session Manager - Default: Automatic (Started)
- If you don't use the advanced Aero Glass transparency interface, Safe: Set to Disabled

DFS Replication - Default: Manual
- If you aren't on a network, Safe: Set to Disabled

DHCP Client - Default: Automatic (Started)
- Typically needed for most Internet Connections (maybe not if you have a static IP), Safe: Leave as is

Diagnostic Policy Service - Default: Automatic (Started)
- If you don't care for Windows finding solutions to problems (including fixing internet connection problems in vista and ie7), Safe: Set to Disabled

Diagnostic Service Host - Default: Manual
- If you don't care for Windows finding solutions to problems, Safe: Set to Disabled

Diagnostic System Host - Default: Manual (Started)
- If you don't care for Windows finding solutions to problems, Safe: Set to Disabled

Distributed Link Tracking Client - Default: Automatic (Started)
- If you don't have links between NTFS Files, Safe: Set to Disabled

Distributed Transaction Coordinator - Default: Manual
- Since this service is on manual and does not start, it may be needed at some point, but it isn't a critical service (Set to Disabled)

DNS Client - Default: Automatic (Started)
- Needed once in a while, Safe: Leave as is

Extensible Authentication Protocol - Default: Manual
- Disabling this service reduces security of the OS (needed for firewall, some unusual protocols, remote access, and internet connection sharing), Safe: Leave as is

Fax - Default: Manual
- If you don't use a fax or a scanner, Safe: Set to Disabled

Function Discovery Provider Host - Default: Manual (Started)
- If not on a network (needed for certain uncommon network components), Safe: Set to Disabled

Function Discovery Resource Publication - Default: Automatic (Started)
- If not on a network (needed for certain uncommon network components), Safe: Set to Disabled

Group Policy Client - Default: Automatic (Started)
- Safe: Leave as is (can technically be disabled if not used, will look into possible problems later)

Health Key and Certificate Management - Default: Manual
- Safe: Set to Disabled

Human Interface Device Access - Default: Manual
- If you don't use the extra buttons on your keyboard or use the software for it, Safe: Set to Disabled

IKE and AuthIP IPsec Keying Modules - Default: Automatic
- Safe: Set to Disabled

Infrared Monitor service - Default: Automatic (Started)
- If you don't have/use infrared, Safe: Set to Disabled

Interactive Services Detection - Default: Manual
- Since this service is on manual and does not start, it may be needed at some point, but it isn't a critical service (Set to Disabled)

Internet Connection Sharing (ICS) - Default: Disabled
- Possibly not needed (will look into), Safe: Leave as is

IP Helper - Default: Automatic (Started)
- If you don't want IPv6 support, Safe: Set to Disabled

IPsec Policy Agent - Default: Automatic (Started)
- Possibly not needed (will look into), Safe: Leave as is

KtmRM for Distributed Transaction Coordinator - Default: Automatic (Delayed Start)
- Possibly not needed (will look into), Safe: Leave as is

Link-Layer Topology Discovery Mapper - Default: Manual
- Since this service is on manual and does not start, it may be needed at some point, but it isn't a critical service

Microsoft .Net Framework NGEN v.20.50727_X64/X86 - Default: Manual
- Safe: Leave as is

Microsoft iSCSI Initiator Service - Default: Manual
- If you don't use iSCSI, Safe: Set to Disabled

Microsoft Software Shadow Copy Provider - Default: Manual
- Since this service is on manual and does not start, it may be needed at some point, but it isn't a critical service

Multimedia Class Scheduler - Default: Automatic (Started)
- Needed for Windows Audio, Safe: Leave as is

Net.Tcp Port Sharing Service - Default: Disabled
- Safe: Leave as is

Netlogon - Default: Manual
- Since this service is on manual and does not start, it may be needed at some point, but it isn't a critical service (Set to Disabled)

Network Access Protection Agent - Default: Manual
- Safe: Set to Disabled

Network Connections - Default: Manual (Started)
- Unless you aren't using the internet, Safe: Leave as is

Network List Service - Default: Automatic (Started)
- Unless you aren't using the internet, Safe: Leave as is

Network Location Awareness - Default: Automatic (Started)
- Unless you aren't using the internet, Safe: Leave as is

Network Store Interface Service - Default: Automatic (Started)
- Unless you aren't using the internet, Safe: Leave as is

Offline Files - Default: Automatic (Started)
- Unless you use them, Safe: Set to Disabled

Parental Controls - Default: Manual
- Unless you use them, Safe: Set to Disabled

Peer Name Resolution Protocol - Default: Manual
- Unless you use Windows Meetings, Safe: Set to Disabled

Peer Networking Grouping - Default: Manual
- Unless you use such applications, Safe: Set to Disabled

Peer Networking Identity Manger - Default: Manual
- Safe: Set to Disabled

Performance Logs & Alerts - Default: Manual
- Needed for many features of Windows, Safe: Leave as is

Plug and Play - Default: Automatic (Started)
- Unless you don't connect various devices often, Safe: Leave as is

PnP-X IP Bus Enumerator - Default: Manual
- Since this service is on manual and does not start, it may be needed at some point, but it isn't a critical service (Set to Disabled)

PNRP Machine Name Publication Service - Default: Manual
- Safe: Set to Disabled

Portable Device Enumerator Service - Default: Automatic (Started)
- If you do not own a portable device, Safe: Set to Disabled

Print Spooler - Default: Automatic (Started)
- If no printer (including virtual ones) is present on the computer, Safe: Set to Disabled

Problem Reports and Solutions Control Panel Support - Default: Manual
- If you don't use it, Safe: Set to Disabled

Program Compatibility Assistant Service - Default: Automatic (Started)
- If you don't use the Program Compatibility Assistant, Safe: Set to Disabled

Protected Storage - Default: Manual
- If you don't save passwords, Safe: Set to Disabled

Quality Windows Audio Video Experience - Default: Manual
- If you don't need it, Safe: Set to Disabled

ReadyBoost - Default: Automatic (Started)
- If you don't use USB drives as a memory boost, Safe: Set to Disabled

Remote Access Auto Connection Manager - Default: Manual
- If you won't be connecting to your computer remotely, Safe: Set to Disabled

Remote Access Connection Manger - Default: Manual (Started)
- If you won't be connecting to your computer remotely, Safe: Set to Disabled

Remote Procedure Call (RPC) - Default: Automatic (Started)
- Vital, Safe: Leave as is

Remote Procedure Call (RPC) Locator - Default: Manual
- Possibly not needed (will look into), Safe: Leave as is

Remote Registry - Default: Manual
- Recommended: Set to Disabled

Routing and Remote Access - Default: Disabled
- Typically not needed, Safe: Leave as is

Secondary Logon - Default: Automatic (Started)
- If you are only running vista with one user, Safe: Set to Disabled

Security Accounts Manager - Default: Automatic (Started)
- If you don't use Global Policy Editor, Safe: Set to Disabled

Security Center - Default: Automatic (Delayed Start) (Started)
- If you don't use the Security Center, Safe: Set to Disabled

Server - Default: Automatic (Started)
- If you don't plan to send files or print them over a network, Safe: Set to Disabled

Shell Hardware Detection - Default: Automatic (Started)
- If you don't use Autoplay, Safe: Set to Disabled

SL UI Notification Service - Default: Manual
- Not required on most setups (needed for Tablet Input Panel) but may break the control panel, Safe: Leave as is

Smart Card - Default: Manual
- If you don't use Smart Cards, Safe: Set to Disabled

Smart Card Removal Policy - Default: Manual
- If you don't use Smart Cards, Safe: Set to Disabled

SNMP Trap - Default: Manual
- If not on a network with SNMP, Safe: Set to Disabled

Software Licensing - Default: Automatic (Started)
- Needed for the Control Panel and other parts of Windows to function (Tablet Input Panel for Tablets), Safe: Leave as is

SSDP Discovery - Default: Automatic (Started)
- If you don't have such devices, Set to Disabled

Superfetch - Default: Automatic (Started)
- Safe: Leave as is

System Event Notification Service - Default: Automatic (Started)
- Typically not needed (event log may display an error if disabled) Safe: Leave as is

Table PC Input Service - Default: Automatic (Started)
- If you don't have a tablet PC, Safe: Set to Disabled

Task Scheduler - Default: Automatic (Started)
- Needed for various Windows and 3rd Party Programs, Safe: Leave as is

TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper - Default: Automatic (Started)
- If you won't be sharing files between computers, Set to Disabled

Telephony - Default: Manual (Started)
- Needed for dial-up and certain DSL connections, Safe: Leave as is

Terminal Services - Default: Automatic (Started)
- If you don't plan to administer remote computers, Safe: Set to Disabled

Terminal Services Configuration - Default: Manual
- If you don't plan to administer remote computers, Safe: Set to Disabled

Terminal Services UserMode Port Redirector - Default: Manual
- If you don't plan to administer remote computers, Safe: Set to Disabled

Themes - Default: Automatic (Started)
- If you are using Windows Classic, Safe: Set to Disabled

Thread Ordering Server - Default: Manual
- Safe: Leave as is

TPM Base Services - Default: Manual
- Used for hardware certificates, Safe: Leave as is

UPnP Device Host - Default: Automatic (Started)
- If you don't use UPnP, Safe: Set to Disabled

User Profile Service - Default: Automatic (Started)
- Safe: Leave as is

Virtual Disk - Default: Manual
- Since this service is on manual and does not start, it may be needed at some point, but it isn't a critical service

Volume Shadow Copy - Default: Manual
- Needed for some integrated backups, since this service is on manual and does not start, it may be needed at some point, but it isn't a critical service

WebClient - Default: Automatic (Started)
- If you don't use web folders, Safe: Set to Disabled

Windows Audio - Default: Automatic (Started
- Safe: Leave as is

Windows Audio Endpoint Builder - Default: Automatic (Started)
- Safe: Leave as is

Windows Backup - Default: Manual
- If you don't use it, Safe: Set to Disabled, Recommended: Leave as is

Windows CardSpace - Default: Manual
- If you don't use it, Safe: Set to Disabled

Windows Color System - Default: Manual
- Safe: Leave as is

Windows Connect Now - Config Registrat - Default: Manual
- Safe: Set to Disabled

Windows Defender - Default: Automatic (Started)
- If you don't use it, Safe: Set to Disabled, Recommended: Leave as is

Windows Driver Foundation - User-mode Driver Framework - Default: Manual
- Safe: Leave as is

Windows Error Reporting Service - Default: Automatic
- If you don't use it, Safe: Set to Disabled, Recommended: Leave as is

Windows Event Collector - Default: Manual
- Safe: Leave as is

Windows Event Log - Default: Automatic (Started)
- Safe: Leave as is

Windows Firewall - Default: Automatic (Started)
- If you don't use it, Safe: Set to Disabled, Recommended: Leave as is

Windows Image Acquisition (WIA) - Default: Manual
- If you don't have a scanner/camera, Safe: Set to Disabled

Windows Installer - Default: Manual
- Safe: Leave as is

Windows Management Instrumentation - Default: Automatic (Started)
- Safe: Leave as is

Windows Media Center Extender Service - Default: Disabled
- Safe: Leave as is

Windows Media Center Receiver Service - Default: Manual
- If you don't use it, Safe: Set to Disabled

Windows Media Center Scheduler Service - Default: Manual
- If you don't use it, Safe: Set to Disabled

Windows Media Center Service Launcher - Default: Automatic (Delayed Start) (Started)
- If you don't use it, Safe: Set to Disabled

Windows Media Player Network Sharing Service - Default: Manual
- If no portable device is owned, Set to Disabled

Windows Modules Installer - Default: Manual
- Certain Windows Updates require it, Safe: Leave as is

Windows Presentation Foundation Font Cache 3.0.0.0 - Default: Manual
- Safe: Leave as is

Windows Remote Management (WS-Management) - Default: Manual
- If you don't plan to administer remote computers, Safe: Set to Disabled

Windows Search - Default: Automatic (Started)
- If you don't use it, Safe: Set to Disabled, Recommended: Leave as is

Windows Time - Default: Automatic (Started)
- If you don't plan to sync the clock with a server, Safe: Set to Disabled

Windows Update - Default: Automatic (Delayed Start) (Started)
- If you don't use it, Safe: Set to Disabled, Recommended: Leave as is

WinHTTP Web Proxy Auto-Discovery Service - Default: Manual
- Almost always not needed, Safe: Set to Disabled

Wired/WLAN AutoConfig - Default: Manual
- If you don't use it, Safe: Set to Disabled

WMI Performance Adapter - Default: Manual
- Safe: Leave as is

Workstation - Default: Automatic (Started)
- Unless you are having a major lag during boot time or if you plan on being on a LAN, Safe: Leave as is
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You can use BlackViper's Guide to Vista services, too.

 

Can you still get them through marketplace? I thought they stopped that. I used the "alternative methods". I already paid for Vista with my new computer.

 

Try these instructions to make a set of recovery disk:

http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c01117305.pdf
Othere manuals are available here:

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/...en&lc=en&cc=pt&dlc=pt&product=3761296&lang=pt

 

Gosh I got 75 process over here.

 

Is there a way you can tell HP to NOT install all that "bloatware"?

Also does it really slow your computer down that significantly? I mean if it does come with a lot of stuff that I don't think I need I'll just uninstall all the crap and then see what remains.

If worse comes to worse I'll go online and check out other solutions. However I doubt that it will be as bad as my experience with the vaio I currently own.

 

No, they will install the bloatware regardless.

The main reason they have bloatware is because they are paid be each company of each piece of bloatware they install. Hence driving the price of the product down (a bit).

 

What's the *32 mean next to some processes?

 

Those are 32bit programs.

 

man... all my alternative methods aren't very safe imo. i might have to fork over the few bucks.

 

wow i cant even get it from the MS marketplace store because i didnt buy it from there originally?? wtf.

 

If you uninstall all the programs you don't need, run CCleaner, and disable any unnecessary startup programs and services you should you good.

 

just isnt the same as a fresh/clean install IMO.

 

i reinstalled vista and before i even used anything i installed revo and uninstalled around 45 apps. i was surprised at all the crapware on these things. some will say you should follow a tutorial,but when i used revo to uninstall everything i have had no problems booting up or shutting down. i mean it boots really fast without any tweak wot so ever,here i thought id have to tweak like i did before. revo is supposed to uninstall all them little files that gets installed when you install something,i guess lol

 

I first deleted the recovery partition, then gave the resulting space to the primary partition. Then I turned off UAC, System Restore Points, Indexing, and TMM. Then I used the Windows Vista Control Panel Uninstaller to uninstall the known bloatware. Then went in and cleaned up the file system (\Program Files\, \Program Data\, \Users\ username\AppData\Local\, \Users\ username\AppData\Roaming\). Then went in with Regedit and cleaned up the registry. Then went in with JV16 Power Tools and cleaned up the installed programs that Control Panel did not know about. Then used JV16 Power Tools to clean up the startup. Then used Black Viper's guide to tune the Services. Then cleaned up the hidden device drivers. Then used CCleaner to find the odds and ends left over. Rebooting regularly thoughout the process.

 

i did a clean install of vista on my dv5t...seems to be running about the same speed as a normal HP install with all the bloatware. (and i noticed my windows exp. index score went down??)

also i cant seem to find the driver for my fingerprint reader, does any1 know where it's at. HP tech support gave me two driver files. one was the software which installed, and idk what the other did, but it says now that the finger print reader is not detected??

 

Here the software

ftp://ftp.hp.com/ftp1/pub/softpaq/sp37501-38000/sp37618.exe