CPU upgrade possible?

Hello,
I have hp8510p (intel gm965 chipset) with intel T9300 cpu. Can this be upgraded (at home)? Is this even possible to change notebook CPU?

If yes - what specs must be same old vs new? Socket is "P-478" so this has to be same, should the FSB speed be the same also?

One more question - I've got pc2-5300 333mhz ddr2 memory. can I put there something faster?

edit> is upgradit of the GPU possible? can I change the pci-express video card? I've got radeon 2600hd, could this be changed?
I'm just looking to the future because I want more processing power but I don't want to buy whole new notebook...

 

The fastest RAM the Intel 965GM chipset will support is DDR2-667 (PC2-5300) though you may be able to improve CAS timings.

You can not upgrade the GPU. It is fixed on the motherboard.

You can upgrade the CPU provided the BIOS will support it. Generally with HP notebooks this means that you are only assured of success with a processor upgrade to one that was originally available for your unit series. Though this is a safe rule on thumb, there are exceptions. Also be careful because although Socket P has 478 pins it is not pin-compatible with Socket 478. Your board is Socket P.

Last, provided you have BIOS support, I think theoretically that you can install any Penryn based Socket P chip. If you install a chip with a 1066FSB on your 965GM chipset however, I think it will down clock to 800MHz because this is all the 965GM (Santa Rosa) chipset will support. The 1066 chips are intended for the Mobil 4 Express series (Montevina) chipsets which support a 1066FSB. Though I have not done this, I think this is correct…...... but I’m sure someone here will correct me if I’m wrong. Which is a good thing…

You can check Intel processor specifications here:
http://www.intel.com/products/processor/core2duo/mobile/specifications.htm

Hope this helps....

 

Actually no 1066MHz FSB CPU will work on it (it won't downclock and you won't be able to power on). Your notebook can only take max 800MHz FSB CPUs.

 

Well there you go..... thanks for the help!

 

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http://www.insidemylaptop.com/disassemble-hp-compaq-8510p-8510w-notebook-pc/

it looks like the gpu could be pulled out as memory. I haven't done this or even seen it with my eyes but it looks like this can be changed for other gpu unit. any ideas about it?

and really thanks for replies, really appreciated

 

The GPU on these is called an MXM module, and yse it is upgradable.
Realistically, you should be able to upgrade easily to a GPU card that came with the 8510w. Look at the service manual for part numbers. You could also theoretically upgrade to any Type 2 MXM card. But there are reports of HP whitelisting GPU cards like they do with wifi cards. So best to stick with the original HP cards.

Also, the fastest (non extreme) 800MHz cpu available for your laptop is a T9500. They are massively expensive, and are only 100MHz faster than your T9300, so don't bother. The 2.5GHz C2D that you already have is plenty fast enough for anything at the moment.

 

Well..... there you go. Another great answer! This is the first one that I 've ever seen that is not fixed. Is this common with business notebooks? Pretty nice if you could do a swap and the BIOS would support it.

Thanks Stumo.

 

Dell have been doing their own propritary separate GPU cards for many years now. The MXM standard was invented and adopted a few years ago by most manufacturers (still not by Dell though AFAIK).

HP started using them with the nx9420 17" series, then the 8510 15" series after that. So I know at least all the 8510, 8530, nx9440, 8710, and 8730 series use MXM modules.

There is lots more info here on people upgrading their own laptops with MXM modules.

 

wow great info! really thanks... I didnt hope to receive such a replies...
stumo thx for the website

edit> please where can be the hp whitelist for the video cards found?

edit2> i've checked the mxm store... they provide 3 cards - the most expensive is just a little bit faster than my 2600HD, so again it's not worth it...

 

I have the 8510w and it's Quadro fx570 is pretty much the only other choise. They are very close to each other performance wise, so there's no actual reason to upgrade graphics either.

I did some extensive searching some time ago, best site to find information is... this http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=3050021&postcount=13

"the motherboard bios contains ALL video bioses and loads the appropriate one... so upgrading to firegl v5600 (a radeon) or the quadro 570m IS possible"

Newer models do not work, they aren't in the whitelist.

 

where is this "hp whitelist" please?

 

It is encoded in the BIOS of the laptop motherboard.

There is a bit of mis-information floating around I think. The video BIOS (vBIOS) is stored on the MXM card. The laptop motherboard BIOS will look at the ID codes that the MXM card reports itself as, and will lookup its whitelist to see if it is "allowed". If not then it won't boot.

Someone tried a FX-770m from a 8530w in a 8510p, but it didn't work. The conclusion was that it must be a whitelist. Read all about it here.

 

Good info! Thanks for the lesson on MXM.

 

i've read 8510 has mxm2 card and 8710mxm3 card, is that right? are mxm slots compatible with different cards? i've got radeon 2600hd which is probably mxm2, so th best mxm2 which I can upgrade to is:
-Nvidia Quadro FX770 - scores 34871/17192/11161/5297 - $235
-Nvidia Geforce 9600M - scores 26807/14889/9592/5063 - $140
?
are these the top for mxm2?
current card is
-ATI Radeon HD2600 - scores 15772/7940/5997/3177 - $0
just thinking about future...

 

Looking at the service manual, there's 2 options:
ATI M76M or Nvidia G84GLM cards, so they are the HD2600 and fx570m?

There should not be any other cards in the whitelist, at least I haven't seen anyone confirm other cards working than those laptop originally shipped with.