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    Compaq V3000Z vs. Compaq V3000T

    Discussion in 'HP' started by pky, Jun 29, 2006.

  1. pky

    pky Notebook Enthusiast

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    So after much research, I think that I'm finally decided on getting the Compaq V3000 series. I was looking at this one, Dell E1405, and HP DV2000/DV1000, but I decided that for the price and quality, that the Compaq was the right one.

    My one question was which processor should I get (AMD Dual Core or Intel Dual Core). I was thinking the AMD b/c it came out to be a cheaper configuration, but wanted to see what people thought.

    Overall, I probably won't be able to tell too much difference since I won't be using the notebook for anything more than basic tasks. However, does the processor have anything to do with heat (I don't want a laptop that gets too hot) or reliability (I want it to last for at least 3-4 years if possible).
     
  2. pky

    pky Notebook Enthusiast

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    For reference, the two processors are the:

    AMD Turion(TM) 64 X2 Mobile TL-50 (1.60GHz/256KB)

    and one of the following:

    Intel(R) Core(TM) Duo processor T2050 (1.60 GHz)
    Intel(R) Core(TM) Duo processor T2250 (1.73 GHz)
    Intel(R) Core(TM) Duo processor T2300E (1.66 GHz)
     
  3. brianstretch

    brianstretch Notebook Virtuoso

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    Turion X2. It's 64-bit capable and the nVidia GeForce 6150 GPU is substantially better than the Intel GMA950 GPU the Core Duo notebook comes with.

    Power consumption and heat should be about the same.
     
  4. rockharder

    rockharder Notebook Evangelist

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    If XP/Vista will not support Hyperthread/Pacifica, then neither of them will perform their potentional power. Right now only Xen support Hyperthread on linux.

    You may select TL-52 for 512KB cach instead of 265KB.

    You will save money but loose battery life if you go with AMD(almost 1 hr difference as in spec.). Core Duo seems faster on some testing scalar(SuperPi). Playing DVD will probably be the same.

    I would say, just forget about two core supported OS or 64 bit OS for at least 2 years. Even OS catch up the trend, applications will not be that fast. Just consider the fabrication at this time. Intel uses 65nm to produce 31W, and AMD uses 90nm for the same power. I go with AMD at this point. Plus AMD will catch the same power as Intel on 65nm(AMD) vs. 45nm(Intel).

    There will be $50+ save on AMD, and you can use it on larger HD.

    If you don't care about this extra $50 and really worry about battery on business trip, then you go with Intel.
     
  5. lappyhappy

    lappyhappy Notebook Deity

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    I'd recommend the 3000z since you want to keep it for 3-4 years. By then there will be a need for 64 bit and you just won't have it with the Intel at this time. For basic uses, the 3000z should be more than sufficient and since it is less expensive anyway go for it. Good luck!
     
  6. santasballz

    santasballz Notebook Consultant

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    AMD Period
     
  7. bart8314

    bart8314 Notebook Enthusiast

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    I would like to add one more question.
    Between TL-52 and TL-50, would there be any significant differences? I understand that core clock doen't make huge difference ( say 1.6 G and 1.8G) for general use.
    But for TL-52, it has 512MB cache while TL-50 has 256MB. Would that 256 cache difference make any noticible difference in general use?
    What do you guys think?
     
  8. rockharder

    rockharder Notebook Evangelist

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    TL-52 & TL-50 are in same clock->1.6G . There will be difference if really use 1.8G. :)
     
  9. Shirp

    Shirp Notebook Guru

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    too bad the v3000z didn't come with a single core turion.
     
  10. thenobodies

    thenobodies Newbie

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    why would u choose a single core turion?
     
  11. Shirp

    Shirp Notebook Guru

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    Because I don't think getting a dual core just yet is worth the extra money (that and im on a budget). I like the body and look of the v3000z, but unless miner's review really has an impact on my decision, i'll be going with a v2000z - which is much cheaper.
     
  12. Bhatman

    Bhatman Notebook Evangelist

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    well if you factor in discounts, the X2 v3000z is the better deal over the Single Core Turion v2000z.
     
  13. Shirp

    Shirp Notebook Guru

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    How so? The only discount I see is the APP and the mail in.

    With the v2000z, there is an instant, mail in, and App.
     
  14. rockharder

    rockharder Notebook Evangelist

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    v2000z is about $100 cheaper than v3000z now, plus you get 2.0GHz cpu vs. 1.6G in X2. I think every vender just want to dump all Turion and turn to Turion X2 with AM1 socket. That's their future.

    But, maybe you can wait for single core with AM1 socket, that will make more sense if you really want to by a single core computer.
     
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    MGS2392 NAND Cat!

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    Can't you get APP, $100 MIR, and 10% instant rebate(you get one by anwering a customer service survey)? The 10% discount only works if there is no instant discount, or you choose not to use this discount. Therefore, you can get APP, $100 MIR, and 10% instant rebate.
     
  16. Shirp

    Shirp Notebook Guru

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    Oh yea? I didn't see that 10% off instant one for taking a survey.
     
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    MGS2392 NAND Cat!

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    Oh yea. I saw that.
     
  19. Shirp

    Shirp Notebook Guru

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    Reguardless. The setup I put on my v2000z is 200 dollars cheaper than the v3000z with only a cpu upgrade to the first X2 option and the last wireless option.
     
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    Fenix
    I agree with you. HP really deserves some kudos for their redesign of the dv1000 and Compaq v2000 model's. Also, seems the new look is soon going to be used on the dv5000 (soon to be dv6000) and dv8000 (soon to be dv9000) models!

    For those interested, seems that what you'll have to do without on a Compaq model, as compared to the Pavilion model, is:

    * Ever so slightly heavier then it's HP sib
    * No video camera/mic option
    * Fewer touch-technology buttons (media buttons, rewind/forward/pause/play missing)
    * Pavilion has two quickplay buttons, Compaq has one
    * Pavilion comes with dual headphone/speaker jacks, Compaq comes with one

    I believe those are the only differences, and frankly, unless you want/need the video camera and mics, the differences are very minor.

    Of course, they also look different, but while I haven't seen the Compaq in the flesh (so to speak), they both look sweet to me!~