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    Compar R3000 won't boot, blinking HDD light

    Discussion in 'HP' started by MSMNick, Jul 26, 2008.

  1. MSMNick

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    So, one of my laptop's is acting up a bit. Its a Compaq presario R3000, or it says that on the screen. The system information option in start>window>acc>sys info says my model type is Presario R3200. And then my model sticker says r3410US, on the service tag. My bios was 12/23/04, version F.34. So, what I just recently did was 1)Flashed bios to F.35, for the r3410us model. It said the previous version was from 12Jan05, and the new f35 was for may something. This is an AMD computer by the way. So, I flashed the Bios, computer shutdown, started it back up, and everything was fine. So, I did this to try and swap an AMD turion 64 mt-30 for my athalon 2800+ xp-m processor. I think there may be compatability issues, because it would not boot, and the HDD light flashed once, then stopped. Now, I placed the 2800 back in and attempted to start it once again, and have the flashing Hdd light, and the disk is starting and stopping quickly, every second or so. Any ideas where to start? Did I maybe flash the Bios to the wrong version, or is this perhaps not a R3410 model...? help is appreciated. Btw, it was the 512mb 333mhz ram, version, if that helps, and it has the nvida f3 or whatever, motherboard. I can't tell cause it won't boot anymore, but i read it in sys info.
     
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    Flush the CMOS:

    Take out all power sources and hold the power button for 30 seconds
     
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    tried it twice so far. I guess one more time can't hurt.
     
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    Turion's aren't compatible with your machine, the BIOS won't recognize anything newer than 130nm chips. A DTR-class Athlon 64 3700+ would be your best bet if you can find one, that's the fastest chip that'll work. Several of us upgraded zv5000/R3000 notebook CPUs.

    I hope that you removed the battery before you did all that disassembly? Are you able to get into BIOS setup or does the screen stay blank?
     
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    You might have fried something when you started it up with the turion.

    Try reseating the CPU and heatsink again
     
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    Sweet jesus, I did remove the battery, heh. That would have been bad.
    I took all the standard esd precautions, I am fairly certain I didn't short anything, but its a possibility. I'm bummed about the turion bit, I have one with no use for it now.. hooray. I'll try to reseat the cpu again.
    Also, from what I can see the Athalon 3700 64 is a soc. 939, I'm 754. Or is the DTR what makes the difference? To clarify, the Notebook version is Xp-m or something like this, right?
     
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    There are DTR(82.5W) version and mobile 65W Athlon64's. All of these were socket 754. You should be able to find the DTR versions on ebay, the mobiles are a bit harder to come by. Since you have a Athlon XP-M which had 65W TDP, the motherboard if I remember correctly accepts only 65W TDP based Athlons, the DTR versions most likely wont boot. Search the web for OPN codes for these cpu's which should make finding them easier. of course this is assuming the motherboard isnt dead in the first place.
     
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    I am really happy to say, problem solved. No deffinative reason though. Update since I last posted. Basically, I took and Cleared the CMOS again, first. This did nothing, except the HDD light wouldn't even blink. My question is, should i clear the cmos before I open up the laptop everytime? or before I change a major piece of hardware like the CPU? Next, I took out the battery, 'discharged' on a metal pole, then opened up the laptop, and took out heat sink and cpu. cleaned with alc. and swabs. re-applied AS5, and reassembled. blew computer off with some comp. air, till everything was very very dry. pieced it back together, let it sit for maybe 30 mins, then put battery in and started. nothing, no HDD light, either. tried 3-4 starts. still nothing.
    So, I told my roomate the news, that her computer simply won't boot anymore, and I was sorry, i'd replace it etc etc. She said its no big deal it just needs to be plugged in, so to humor her we did that, and shabam, it worked. first try. This is confusing because the last time i tried to start it was the only time it wasn't plugged in when trying to start... so I think reseating the CPU somehow was the answer.
    Onward... So since this is probably the weakest processor on the planet still running (128kb L2???) I think a good 3k, 3.2k, or etc would be nice, with a 512 or 1mb L2 cache.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_Athlon_64_microprocessors
    Does this list look to be accurate? And as I understand it, the DTR will not even boot, so undervolting isn't an option anyway, then? I get the whole system Tdp can't be exceeded and 81.5W is a lot more than 65, and I'd prefer something in the 35w range, but any help is great, thanks!
     
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    I've already thrown some bids down on ebay. My reasoning is, with a xp-m 2800, nearly anything and everything 64 bit is an upgrade, just because of the L2 cache, as I've mentioned, being 128kb on the current processor. The prices for 3200, 3400, and such aren't half bad so I think this is easily do able. Also, anyone want an mt-30 :-D
    Thanks for the help, and thank you whoever you are for making the laptop turn on for no apparent reason.