DV4000 with Radeon X700, finally!

Finally HP's DV4000 gets a dedicated video card, here's a review.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,1858634,00.asp


Wonder if the DV1000 will get a video card as well?? Because Toshiba's 14 inch Satellite M50 series can be configured with a Radeon X600.

 

but it is not yet at HPshopping.

But the price has fallen down and they are giving FREE Second 6 Cell Lithium Ion Battery!!

 

Great move from HP, this is exactly what these series were missing the most!

 

I wonder how they get these laptops for review even before they are released!

 

Usually the media gets products before they are released to raise awareness and publicity.

 

Yeah, I also noticed that you can't yet configure it with the X700.

 

Do we have any idea when a release date for this will be? I'm willing to shell out some extra cash to grab a dv4000 with x700

 

good, then you will be able to run vista... oh wait, its still cant run 64 bit code... never mind

 

Darn it, I just bought my DV4000 three week ago! Maaaannnn......

 

I just bought my dv4170us a month ago for school! you gotta be kidding!

Then again, I don't game so it really doesn't matter. Oh well....

 

Yeah, that sucks, we should be given advance warning about these things so we don't get screwed over. The X700 is way, way better than the GMA 900.

Its weird that now the DV4000 can get a way better video card than the ZV6000 with its mediorce X200. Its strange because thehe DV4000 is a mainstream notebook and the ZV6000 is a desktop replacement. They should also put a better videocard in the ZV6000 as well.

Man, I was just looking at PCMag's benchmarks between the DV4000 with and without discrete graphics and the differences are HUGE! First of all the one with the X700 has a 2.13 ghz PM and the one with integrated has a 1.86 ghz PM. The 1st one plays Doom 3 for example at 1024 X 768 resolution at 43.5 fps while the latter does it at only 3.9! What a difference! Darn it, I want to return mine and get one with an X700! But I'd really like the DV1000 with a dedicated GPU.

 

Glad I've been waiting for new laptop. They keep gettin' better and better.

 

I too have been wavering in my laptop decision, with one of the contenders being the dv4000. The biggest deterent for me was the lack of a dedicated GPU, but with this new announcement my mind is made up.

Now, if only it was actually for sale somewhere. I keep checking hp.com every couple hours in hopes that it will appear with these new options, but so far it's been nothing but frustration.

A good notebook is now even better...kudos to HP! If anyone happens to notice that it's being offered online (I'm assuming it'll first appear on the HP website), please post here and let us all know...my order will be placed within an hour of the announcement.

Josey

 

The reason behind HP's move from Intel dedicated to X700 for the DV4000 series is rather obvious. Heard of Sony's upcoming BX series?

http://smb.us.sony.biz/is-bin/INTER...QdcUjTtEmHTRWK1sf4=?CategoryName=hid_bx_specs

As you can see here, the only thing that differentiates it with the current line of DV4000s is its dedicated X700 graphics. With the X700, HP now has a direct competitor of Sony's BX series on their hands. Some might prefer the superior speakers of the DV4000; some might want the brighter XBrite screen instead. There's no clear winner here. Personally though, I'd choose the DV4000. I'm too much a sucker for good laptop speakers.

edit: I won't be surprised to see a ZV6000 with new graphic options soon. Because of the larger market share (?) of 15.4" laptops, it's simply just wiser to update the DV4000 first.

 

Well, HP's DV1000 competes with Toshiba's Satellite M50 series, the DV1000 can currently only be configured with GMA 900 graphics yet the Toshiba can be configured with GMA 900 or ATI Radeon X600. HP had better put a dedicated GPU of some sort in their DV1000 soon as they did with the DV4000.

 

oh nooo! i just bought an hp dv4000 and my friend will bring it to me this sunday, i should have waited a bit for this. im stupid about laptops, so can anyone tell if the graphics card of this model is upgradable?

 

It's highly unlikely that you'll be able to upgrade the graphics card on this (or most any other) laptop, but that's a question better answered by someone who owns a current-generation dv4000. Lappies are unlike desktops in that there are far more limitations on what you can upgrade down the road.

You'll probably still be very happy with the IGP, unless you plan to use it for gaming, but if that was your intention going in you likely wouldn't have gotten it in the first place. As it is it'll still work great for movies, photoshop, light video editing, etc.

Such is the world of computers...by the time your order arrives the company has released a better version for the price you just paid for the now-dated model. No way around that though.

Josey

 

Only consolation for me, is that I got mine under a pretty decent deal for something like $1100 (dv4170). I'm guessing with a Radeon card, it'll probably be around $1500 or so....I don't need the graphics that bad.

 

thanks for the reply josey, yeah i chose this laptop knowing its not really a laptop for gaming, and im happy with its other features, just though that having a discreet graphics card would be a bonus, hehe since i bought it from singapore (1.7ghz, 1gig ddr, 80 gig 4200rpm) for the price of 1,750 USD with a promotional xb2000 for aditional 50 dollars. anyway i believe i will still love it when it arrives. and it also says in the review that it reduces its battery life up to 2.3 hours with the discreet graphics card.

 

This is totally based on assumption, but seing how HP's main competitors (Sony, Toshiba and Acer comes to mind) are aggresively releasing notebooks for virtually every kind of user, it's rather mandatory to upgrade the DV1000 with a dedicated graphics solution. Don't get me wrong, the DV1000 have always been a major seller. However, at the pricepoint of CAD$1699-1799, people can easily get an equally high quality build laptop with mid-end dedicated graphics from ATI and nVIDIA. It'll simply not be smart for HP to stick with the GMA 900 for long. That's for sure.

 

I'd just be ticked off if I bought a DV1000 and they'd put a video card in it soon after I buy it.

 

Didn't you guys read the review...2.3 hours of battery life. That sucks. Why would you want a centrino basked laptop that has battery life on par with a pentium 4. You can have the dedicated graphics....for a non gamers my dv4000 works great!

 

Actually, the P4 gets only 1-1:30 hours. 2:30 isn't that great I agree but you can always get the extended battery giving you twice that.

 

That's why they should offer it as an option. People who want performance in a 15.4" notebook can take the dedicated card, while people who want maximum battery life can stick with integrated graphics.

 

Will the 8000 receive a graphics update (X700 minimum, X800 preferred)? It would be tragic to have their "weaker" notebooks have more performance. By weaker, I mean weaker on the performance scale with the desktop replacement at the top. Or better yet, they need to retire that huge thing and come out with a P-M solution.

Edit: Do my eyes trick me? HP's offering the top P-M processor and all these components for $1449?! That option usually costs a fortune to upgrade to anywhere else.

 

The DV4000 is a 15.4" notebook.

 

Well, to be honest with you, I have no idea. Although logic dictates the possibility of the 8000 getting a major graphics upgrade (seeing how the DV4000 is getting the X700 afterall), who knows? HP might be playing things different this time around. I mean, seeing how badly their 17" notebooks are selling here in Canada, I'm not surprised at all.

PC Mag is a reputational magazine and they shouldn't make fatal mistakes such as this. The $1449 price can't be too far of of what you can get the notebook for. If this still doesn't make any sense to you, remember, the DV4000 reviewed only has 512 megs of RAM. That's a good $150-$200 dollars extra if you want a gig of RAM.

 

I don't think that they can get a card,such as the X700, in the zv6000 b/c of compatibility issues with the Athlon processor. O well...

 

Um...What compatibility problems??? Acer sells an Athlon64 with the X700, but sadly is available only in Europe
http://www.acer.co.uk/acereuro/page...aram=UK&LanguageISOCtxParam=en&crc=3215711509

 

Hmmm...Never heard of that. Well, I guess you're right too b/c desktop's have Athlons w/ other video cards and they no compatibility issues.

 

My bad, that was a typo. It was supposed to be 15.4".

 

Does anyone have any idea or guess when the "new" dv4000 will be available?

I need to buy something quick, and I'm trying to determine if I will be able to hold off until this unit is available....unfortunately I can't find any clues or press releases.

 

they will be available from Sept 28.

check this out
http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/newsroom/press/2005/050916a.html

 

I'd like to see the DV1000 and V2000 have dedicated graphics, probably not the X700 but at least the X600. Because the Toshiba M50 series can be configured with it, why can't the DV1000/V2000s????????

 

When should we expect them in Canada? The end of next month?

 

It looks like the x700 will cost $150 extra on this laptop according to the press release: "Estimated U.S. retail pricing for the HP Pavilion dv4000 starts at $799, while configurations including the ATI X700 graphics solution start at $949"

 

I'd say that's pretty **** good. Pump it up with a little more ram and a faster HDD and you have a gaming machine for under $1200. sweet deal.

Anyone know how much videoram that x700 packs? 64mb or 128?



edit: lol the d@mn up there got blotted out XP

 

Hi folks.

About the battery life.

The DV4000 with GMA900 is 3 to 3:45
PCmag says 3:17


The DV4000 with X700
PCmag says 2:28

I´m sure that you can extended battery life for almost 15 to 30 minutes.

With other tools such as Centrino Hardware Control you can extended it about other 15 minutes undervolting the centrino..

See this
http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=2510

"With other tools such as Centrino Hardware Control, I have been able to use my laptop for approximately 3 hours and 24 minutes on full brightness with the wireless adapter on."

http://www.pbus-167.com/chc.htm


There are two periods in which HP release new laptops

Consumer Laptops September

Bussines Laptops January-February

Hold in mind.




:hp:

 

Anywhere between 64-256 MB. I'm almost inclined to say that HP will offer one option with less memory and one with more based on their previous notebooks.

 

Welp, either way, now that I know that the release date is less than two weeks away, I'm standing pat for now until I can go through the spec process and see where I stand with the new versions.

Essentially, if you can get a high-powered P-M processor, a dedicated X700 GPU, a GB of RAM and a brightview screen for under $1,500, I can't see what else out there can compete (at least anything with a storied track record like the dv4000).

 

But can we expect it to be the same quality build as current (or previous depending how you see it) DV4000 laptops? Guess we'd just have to wait and see.

 

Do you have reason to believe otherwise, or are you just playing devil's advocate? In today's market, I highly doubt they're going to risk losing market share by cutting any (more) corners. It's far too much of a dog-eat-dog world out there, and I would think that in order for HP to remain or even gain in market share they know better than to offer something that's going to damage their image.

That being said, I could very well be trying to convince myself of this to help justify my decision

Josey

 

This one sounds like a winner! I hope. I have been searching and lurking for awhile now but have not "pulled the trigger" yet. I was waiting for the Lenovo Z60m, but this looks like a better and cheaper compromise. Not a ThinkPad but not a Dell!
This new DV4000 could be a "Laughing Gypsy" (happy medium)!!!

 

ThinkPads are good for many reasons, but multimedia apps certainly isn't one of them. They are rugged, durable and reliable, but even with Lenovo now in the mix they're still about a year behind in their component offerings and still demand a premium.

I will say that, in their defense, the Z-series is certainly a step in the right direction. The future will tell if they can close the gap in the consumer notebook arena (businesses have and still are their forte).

Josey