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    DV9000t new F25 bios avalble

    Discussion in 'HP' started by Tryton, Jun 1, 2007.

  1. Tryton

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    anyone know what it fixes or changes? I just installed it with no problems, but dont know what it did? Thanks all
     
  2. SideSwipe

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    um don't they mention anything on the HP site about what it's for?

    got a link btw?
     
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    yeah i found it and downloading it now

    kinda weird that they don't provide a description and the jump from 16 to 25 is odd too

    the usual recommendation is that you only update your bios if you are experiencing a problem, now how can anyone expect to update their bios without an explanation of what they are updating to!
     
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    just checked. wireless hack still works on this bios version. enjoying 11n on this new bios.
     
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    what!?

    That's no fun ... better stay with my current BIOS ...
     
  8. Tryton

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    Has anyone that downloaded this noticed that the fan runs more and louder now? ever since I installed this new bios, the fan kicks on every 3 minutes or so.
     
  9. iholla

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    It states

    Fixes

    Fixes issue where a "blue screen" error is generated if the notebook has two 2-GB memory modules installed
     
  10. Tryton

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    well, i went back to F16. F25 sucks for me. It kept running my fan every 60 seconds.. + it raised my core temps from 25 to 30c to 50 to 55c! very annoying!
     
  11. R4000

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    Interesting. So HP is admitting support of 4GB ram in these units? Nice. :)
     
  12. SideSwipe

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    yeah it would appear so.....
     
  13. Mr. Wonderful

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    Hmm...Says it
    yet makes the fan run *GASP* even more? I wasn't sure that was possible.
     
  14. ethant

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    Interesting. It seems like the fan runs much less in my dv6000t (with F.25), but I have not had a chance to test it too much yet.
     
  15. Mr. Wonderful

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    There's a way to enable .11n on a dv9000t? Could you give me some links? I'm currently running a draft-N network and it would make sense to take advantage of it on my laptop.

    Also, just updated my BIOS from .16 to .25. The fan actually seems to be quieter for me as well.
     
  16. Tryton

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    well, with f.16 my fan runs all the time but very low, with f.25 it would shut down fan for about 60 seconds then turn it on, rinse dry repeate.. got annoying to me. + it seemed my laptop got hotter.
     
  17. TomTom2007

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    I heard someone said that after he updated to f.25, that he can't disable the "beep" quickplay button sound any more. can anyone confirm this? thanks!
     
  18. D.B.Cooper

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    Yes, the beep has returned. It is in the BIOS menu and can be disabled or enabled like the F16 version. It just doesn't work :mad: A simple screw up like that makes me think this version is garbage. After installing it my HD and core temp went up a few degrees. The fan on mine hardly comes on anymore. I'd rather have a low fan running to keep things cool instead of no fan running to shorten my HD's life.

    I really think that there is some bad engineering to this laptop (DV9000T). It really shouldn’t get this hot unless I'm doing some heavy gaming or number crunching.

    Sorry for the rant but just sitting here typing this my drive went from 52° to 55°. The only thing running is Firefox and some minimal process
     
  19. Hicetnunc

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    Is there a chance that this bios somehow fixes the too low recording level mics problem, if somebody has noticed...?
    Otherwise, by your reactions, it just does'nt worth a try.
    My hd is hot enough with the f.16...
     
  20. aphexacid

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    Obviously this bios was botched. not recommened to upgrade.

    However, i'd like to know about this 4GB ram.....
     
  21. kewlguy

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    Use this link for the wireless whitelist bypass mod.

    http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=31474&st=0&p=339537&#entry339537

    This not enabling 11n on dv9000T... lol.. there is no 11n on the 9000T version. If you get a 11n card which is not through HP and insert it to your HP laptop, you will fail to boot. This simple mod removes the flag to check for non-HP certified network card, thats all.
     
  22. orev

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    There's a discussion about 4GB RAM here. The consensus is that they probably do support 4GB, but if you're running a 32bit OS, then it can't use more than ~3.3GB. That's a limitation of the OS. 64bit OS should be able to see all of it.
     
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    Running Vista on a dv9088ea, my CPU temperatures (as measured by Everest) have increased about 20*C to about the 50*C point when running nothing but Firefox.

    I would be interested in HP's rationale behind the F.25 BIOS. The release notes state: "Modifies thermal control method to improve system stability". I can confirm that the fan is generally quieter now than it was with F.16, however the much higher temperatures are a concern.

    Can we be assured that the system won't suffer damage in the longer term when running at these temperatures?
     
  24. Squallff8aus

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    still won't see it 'cos of the i945 chipset. u tried this yourself didn't u? in vista x64.
     
  25. Squallff8aus

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    20*C? thats amazingly low. my dv9008tx is like 35*C after i undervolted the cpu to 1.0V while running with a 2.0GHz clock.


    the rationale? it was probably a *cough* BETA *cough* release :rolleyes:
     
  26. fossean

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    Haha! 20*C would be lower than my room temperature! Actually, it increased by about 20*C, from 30'ish to 50'ish.

    I've just gone back to the F.16 BIOS and both cores are sitting at 28*C. Palms are no longer sweating as I type!
     
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    Hmm, yes, you are right. I was thinking of the 9500. Sorry about that
     
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    yeah i too noticed the fans running less often and there has been quite a drastic increase in heat. area around the palm rest is pretty hot now.

    well, I modded the firmware to add SLIC tables for Vista OEM activation along with the wireless whitelist bypass mod. Vista activates with HP OEM cert with no problems.

    Does anyone have the latest HP OEM logos?
     
  29. ruibing

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    I tried it on my DV6000T in WinXP Pro SP2. With RMClock on, it used to be idle at 25 C, now idles at 50 C. Went back to F.16, something it wrong with these firmware releases. My laptop came with F.17, it was the same issue with less fan but more heat.

    I wonder if it means that HP still can't get this right after 9 tries?
     
  30. mbmalone

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    That's good to know.

     
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    I have them and there is even an installer for them, which works fine.

     
  32. kewlguy

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    are those from the vista activation tool kit 1.5?

    I got those and created a perfect Vista x64 OEM DVD. It activates automatically offline when installed as my laptop now has the SLIC tables in BIOS and I automated the OEM logo to be added during install. So when it boots up after install I have a perfect HP OEM install.
     
  33. mbmalone

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    For only the logos and OEM Information, I use the Patch by Steve Jobs. It works perfectly and includes an installer/uninstaller. It now has the latest HP Invent Logos. I have the SLIC tables, so I just have to use the certificates to activate. I tried to integrate them during my x64 install, but I must have done something wrong. Can you post those few lines that are actually working on your install. Otherwise I have to just install and do it manually after the install.

    Oem_Logos_and_OEM_Information_Auto_Patch_v1.exe

     
  34. kewlguy

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    Its pretty easy to automate the activation and oem logos


    Do the following in your bootable vista DVD iso. I used UltraISO as all other failed to properly edit 64bit vista iso.

    1) Inside the Sources folder create a new text file and copy paste the text below inside and save the file as PID.TXT

    [PID]
    Value=(your OEM Vista key here)

    2) Take your OEM XRM-MS file that matches your key and copy the file to:

    SOURCES\$OEM$\$$\SYSTEM32\OEM


    3) Take your HP OEM logos and copy the files to

    SOURCES\$OEM$\$$\SYSTEM32\OOBE

    I have a INFO folder within the OOBE directory. It has an OOBE.XML file.

    4) Copy the logo registry file, i call it HP.reg, to

    SOURCES\$OEM$\$$\SETUP\SCRIPTS

    If the $OEM$ and subfolders dont exsist, create them.

    5) Create a command file (.cmd) named SetupComplete.cmd and add the following to it.

    -------
    @echo off

    if not exist %systemroot%\system32\oobe mkdir %systemroot%\system32\oobe
    if not exist %systemroot%\system32\oobe\info mkdir %systemroot%\system32\oobe\info
    regedit /s %systemroot%\setup\scripts\hp.reg
    ------------

    SetupComplete.cmd is a Vista automated feature used for unattented installs or for corp deployments. This file is executed just before the first user logon after install and uses localsystem privilages to excute this.
    You can add other stuff you want to add to this .cmd file, like registry tweaks, simple app installs, etc. to customize it further.


    Burn the contents as a bootable DVD and you have your HP OEM disk!
     
  35. sandesign

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    The BIOS update works well for me. My laptop feels more speedy and performs better.
     
  36. Broadus

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    What about your temps. I thought mine was hotter after installing the update, and SpeedFan confirmed that it indeed is. Where the HDD temperature had been about 45C, it is now 52C.

    Is 52C a concern for the HDD itself? I may back up to F.16.

    Bill
     
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    yeah 52C on idle is bad cuz under load it will go over 55C which is the threshold. its not like the drive will die but anything over 55 is getting dangerous
     
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    If you've got speedfan, why not let that control your fans?
     
  39. Broadus

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    I've used SpeedFan simply to monitor the temps on occasion, but you make a good point. I've never gotten into the program to actually control the fans. Do you select the Info tab, then Get Config, and then go from there? I obviously have never gotten into it.

    BTW, I reverted back to F16. Within 30 minutes my HDD has dropped from 52C 45C and the CPU from 50-52C to 28C. And the left palm rest and keyboard are comfortable again.

    Bill
     
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    I've played around with using it for fan control, but not enough to really walk through it. I bet the speedfan website has some good info though.
     
  41. Broadus

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    Thanks. I suspect that HP will soon modify the BIOS because of the heat issue. I think I'll stay with the F16 until they do. I hate to monkey around with things too much.

    Bill
     
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    I installed F.25 on my DV6000t and immediately noticed the "high pitched whine" was almost totally gone. I could barely hear it over the normal background noise of the room and actually thought it might be coming from the LCD panel. Unfortunately, I also noticed the left panel next to the touchpad was MUCH hotter than before and the fan, while maybe not running as -fast-, was running longer and the air coming out of the vent was hotter than I ever remembered it before this upgrade. This is really too bad, since they seem to have almost completely eliminated the whine. Since I did not like the higher temps the laptop was showing, I reverted back to F.16.
    It's hard to believe no one a HP noticed this and you convince me letting the unit run even hotter than before isn't harmful.
     
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    I installed f.25 and immediately noticed that the high-pitched whine was almost totally gone. Just a slight noise could be heard and it could have been coming from the LCD panel. BUT: I also noticed the left panel next to the touch panel was considerably warmer than before and the fan, while not spinning at all different speeds like before was actually running -longer- and the air coming out of the back vent was MUCH hotter. I reverted back to
    f.16 which is really a shame, since it appears the issue with the whine had been almost totally eliminated.
     
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    So it seems everyone is having the heat up issue after the F25 update because of the fans not running as much? I too have noticed my fan doesnt run as much and seems a little warmer but I dont have a temp tracker program installed------Although I still have my high pitch sound, that did not change.

    SO everyone is putting F16 back in?
     
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    I updated to F.25..how do I go back to F.16? :( I should have looked around before updating..
     
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    The last thing I want is my computer to get hot..I like them to run as cool as possible because of heat related damage.
     
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    You should be able to download F.16 and most other published BIOSes off of the HP site. You should be able to simply rerun that EXE.

    --Mickey
     
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    Thanks..I'm back to F.16 and I'm SO glad.
     
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    My laptop was getting hotter every hour. Not to metion this hot summer adding fuel to the fire. Got a bit uncomfortable with the heat as the whole laptop was baking in extreme heat. Couldn't even rest my palm on the palm rest. So I immediately decided to switch back to F.16
    Had to redo the whole SLIC mod along with the simple wireless whitelist bypass mod, as I didnt save the old modded BIOS.
    Not sure if this is the case with everyone else who switched back to F.16 but, I noticed that during F.25 the boot up times had be drastically afftected. I had to wait almost 3 to 4 mins before I could see the desktop. Now the fans run like before, when required, and the laptop has come back to reasonable temperature. Also boot time to desktop has been restored like before.
     
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