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    Do you remove your battery if you're using your laptop as desktop replacement?

    Discussion in 'HP' started by psmo290, Dec 20, 2006.

  1. psmo290

    psmo290 Notebook Consultant

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    I'm just curious of how many people actually pull out the battery when they use the laptop as a desktop replacement.

    Also, if you do, do you use a UPS with laptop now?
     
  2. spatialanomaly

    spatialanomaly Notebook Consultant

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    Yes and I use a Best Patriot Pro II.
     
  3. chrisyano

    chrisyano Hall Monitor NBR Reviewer

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    I don't. It's too much hassle for me--even though my notebook doesn't leave the desk very often. My battery is my UPS.
     
  4. brianstretch

    brianstretch Notebook Virtuoso

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    All computers that don't have their own battery should have a UPS, IMHO. I'm a big fan of the APC SmartUPS series but they're rather expensive. The higher end of the BackUPS line will do.

    Batteries hate heat. If your battery is near one of the hotter spots in your notebook I suppose removing it would help, but the battery in my old zv5000z stayed fairly cool and it stayed in perfect condition for 2 years despite receiving no special treatment whatsoever. For the most part I think how well the cells were cooked at the factory matters more than anything else.
     
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    gridtalker Notebook Virtuoso

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    I leave the battery on
     
  6. waverider969

    waverider969 Notebook Consultant

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    Doesn't your battery life decrease if you keep your laptop on for long periods of time per day on AC power? I seem to go through a battery every year with my laptop which I use as a desktop replacement and keep on sometimes over night (while DL bT's).
     
  7. miner

    miner Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I never remove the battery from the laptop. All Li-ion batteries have a life time and I would rather use it and then buy a new one when it dies rather than it just sitting in a closet and dieing. FWIW unless your battery is getting extremely hot I wouldnt bother with remoing the battery.
     
  8. spatialanomaly

    spatialanomaly Notebook Consultant

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    "The worst condition is keeping a fully charged battery at elevated temperatures, which is the case with running laptop batteries. If used on main power, the battery inside a laptop will only last for 12-18 months. I must hasten to explain that the pack does not die suddenly but begins with reduced run-times."


    "Consider removing the battery from a laptop when running on fixed power. (Some laptop manufacturers are concerned about dust and moisture accumulating inside the battery casing.)"

    http://www.batteryuniversity.com/parttwo-34.htm
     
  9. Gautam

    Gautam election 2008 NBR Reviewer

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    I'm too lazy to remove the battery. Plus, it's kind of an added annoyance for saving a bit of the battery's life.
     
  10. wayne_i

    wayne_i Notebook Enthusiast

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    New notebooks have Li-Ion batteries. These batteries do not have the memory effect of the NiCd (and to a lesser extent, NiMH) batteries. However, they do have a limited number of charge/discharge cycles, and they are damaged by excessive heat (such as frequent charging - that is when the cells get hot). So, leaving the batteries in the notebook when running off ac is actually better, as the cells do not discharge and they are always fully charged. Most notebook computers monitor the charge rate, temperature, and battery condition to adjust the charging (they use a 'smart' battery charger controller IC).

    Wayne
     
  11. chrixx

    chrixx Product Specialist NBR Reviewer

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    My 3 year old Compaq laptop runs off AC most of the time (using as a desktop replacement) with the battery plugged in. The battery life is still at a decent 2.5-3 hours.
     
  12. Estlander

    Estlander Notebook Consultant

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    This is what HP has to say about that:
    http://h20239.www2.hp.com/techcenter/battery/Battery_max.htm

    Remove the battery if the notebook will be plugged into AC power continuously (via a wall adapter or docking station) for more than 2 weeks.

    And yes, i have my battery removed and using an UPS.
     
  13. chrisyano

    chrisyano Hall Monitor NBR Reviewer

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    It does shorten the lifespan somewhat. Read more about it in the Battery guide.

    This is exactly how I feel about it. Over a few years, $100 for a new battery is not so bad considering the convenience factor.
     
  14. MGS2392

    MGS2392 NAND Cat!

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    I don't do it. It's just too inconvenient to try and find a battery when I suddenly decide to use my laptop on my bed or something. Really, I don't have a care for the battery's life span. It's there for a reason. Go use it.