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    Dv6-7000 high temperatures

    Discussion in 'HP' started by Mistyque, Jul 4, 2012.

  1. Mistyque

    Mistyque Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hey guys,

    I have been playing with my laptop for a few days now and i want to know your opinion about the heat issues i get. While playing Battlefield 3 for a while, temperatures are getting quite high. The cpu gets around 100 degrees celsius and the Nvidia 650m (2gb) reaches a temperature of 80/85 degrees. The heat at the left palm area is noticeable, but i can bear it. It doesn't bother me really while gaming.
    My only concern is; Could the heat damage my laptop in a way? Should i be worried? Will the heat shorten the life of the laptop? I have to use the laptop for at least 4 years so i really want to game safely.. :(

    Greetings...

    Mistyque
     
  2. Sxooter

    Sxooter Notebook Virtuoso

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    That's high. Most modern mobile CPUs start to throttle by 95 to 100C (some like the core i3 throttle at 85 or 90C). It's quite likely your thermal cooling system isn't making good contact with the CPU, as since in the dv6 they share a heat pipe, they are usually within a few degrees of each other under load. If you don't mind taking it apart and repasting it and checking for a good seat that might fix things. If it's new take it back and get one that doesn't have cooling issues.

    You should use CPU-z or something like that to see if you're throttling under load.
     
  3. kisetsu17

    kisetsu17 Took me long enough

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    They do get quite high. I reach about 90C when I game with full CPU speed. That's why I used ThrottleStop and created a gaming profile--I put the CPU speed to 75%. I never get past 87C on the processor.

    One thing I noticed though, I did the repasting and used IC Diamond 7, but all it's done is help lower the idle temps. It did help cooling down but with max temps it didn't lower mine at all.

    You ought to also check how long it stays at 100C. Unless you're already at it, consider monitoring it using a graphed monitor like HWInfo or something. Try to see how long it stays at 100C. It's supposed to throttle down once it reaches that and you should see that it only stays at 100C for a few seconds before going back down because of the throttling.
     
  4. unclewebb

    unclewebb ThrottleStop Author

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    The new Intel 3rd Generation Core i processors have a thermal throttling temperature of 105C. The way Intel thermal throttling works is the multiplier and core voltage will be continuously adjusted, hundreds of times a second, so the core temperature remains just a hair under 105C. As soon as the temperature falls below the TJ Max throttling value, the CPU immediately goes back to full speed. Intel does this so the end user will barely notice a decrease in performance while the core temperature keeps from getting completely out of hand.

    The temperature graph ends up looking like a flat line. I haven't done any Core i testing but here's how a Core 2 looks after 3 hours with the heatsink fan deliberately turned off.

    http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/276/hote8400fw5.png

    With a TJ Max of 100C, the cores spent most of their time at about 98C.

    Some laptop manufacturers set throttling temperatures lower than the Intel specified throttling temperatures. These schemes are generally horrible and end up throttling the CPU severely when there is no need to do this. It is also completely unnecessary.

    If you want some accurate data, run ThrottleStop 5.00 and turn on the Log File option. It will give you a good look at what peak core temperature your CPU was running at and whether it was slowing down significantly or not.
     
  5. Mistyque

    Mistyque Notebook Enthusiast

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    The laptop is new, but i can't return it actually.. :(
    I got the laptop from a friend in the states, while i live in Holland. I'm too late to return the laptop so i have to stick with it. While the heat is not unbearable i wonder if the heat is dangerous?
    I do use hwinfo for monitoring the heat. While playing bf3 the cpu ( i7-3610qm) reaches ~100 degrees and lower to 95 degrees.
    I have got an english version of windows 7 so i can't find where to adjust the cpu speed. Is there any way to lower this and will it drasticcaly lower heat and fps in games?
     
  6. kisetsu17

    kisetsu17 Took me long enough

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    Here you go. My quick solution. You can use ThrottleStop in the future if you don't want to lose your TurboBoost, but for now here's how I did it before I used throttlestop.

    Step 1: Click the Battery icon, and click on "More Power Options" (First photo)
    Step 2: Click on "Change Plan Settings" (Second photo)
    Step 3: Click on "Change advanced power settings" on your active plan. On the dialog box that appears, browse down on the "Processor power management" and on the "Maximum processor state". Put it at 99% if you just want to turn off TurboBoost's effective speed, or lower it even more if you find it still heats up.
     

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  7. Mistyque

    Mistyque Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thank you very much! :)
     
  8. tbone8ty

    tbone8ty Notebook Consultant

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    get a laptop cooler
     
  9. monkeychef

    monkeychef Notebook Guru

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    This solution was so simple, and I can't believe how low it brought the temperatures. Thank you so much.
     
  10. kisetsu17

    kisetsu17 Took me long enough

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    Did miracles on mine, so I thought I should share it. I do remember reading about it in the owners' lounge, though. So yeah. Glad to help. :)
     
  11. Mistyque

    Mistyque Notebook Enthusiast

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    How much cooler do you think it will run? If it is less than 10 degrees, i don't think it's worth it..
     
  12. link626

    link626 Asus GL502VM, Lenovo Y580, Asus K53TA

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    laptop cooler won't work worth a damn if you don't have enough vents on the underside.
    It will be blowing against plastic.

    pc components can usually tolerate a lot of heat.
    Just make sure you clean out your fan every now and then.


    if you want a good laptop cooler, get one of these, lay it flat, and jack up the corners with some wood blocks so there is airflow, and put your laptop on it..... Or you can even lay the box fan on your lap. Usually $15-20, with massive airflow

    [​IMG]
     
  13. tbone8ty

    tbone8ty Notebook Consultant

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    har har :rolleyes:
     
  14. link626

    link626 Asus GL502VM, Lenovo Y580, Asus K53TA

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    WhiteGambit Newbie

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    Those temperatures seem very high. I received my dv6-7000 about a week ago, and after playing Battlefield 3 for about 30 minutes the hottest my CPU got was 85C and my GPU barely reached 70C. This is with the 2.6GHz processor and a 1GB 650M. While idling my CPU hovers around 41C.
     
  16. Mistyque

    Mistyque Notebook Enthusiast

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    At what settings are you playing if i may ask? My temperatures are after 2/3 hours of intense gaming. In crowded servers for example... My idle temps are about the same as yours.
     
  17. releasedtruth

    releasedtruth Notebook Enthusiast

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    All great ideas and much appreciated. I couldn't limit the machine from tipping 103s on all cores. The 99% didn't help much and after a few notebook coolers, the only one that helps is a Notepal X-Slim, surprisingly (Cryo LX, Notepal X2, MiniFit XL tried).

    Only 2 small patches of venting underneath doesn't help. I've returned mine twice with no improvement so don't feel like you're missing anything.
     
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    blueflames_38 Newbie

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    The 99% hasnt really helped much :( any other suggestions?
     
  19. link626

    link626 Asus GL502VM, Lenovo Y580, Asus K53TA

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    did you uninstall HP cool sense?

    there must be a way to turn the fan to the max.......