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    Dv6700t CPU upgrade to T9900 or Q9000 Possible?

    Discussion in 'HP' started by Vanko, Sep 7, 2010.

  1. Vanko

    Vanko Notebook Consultant

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    Hi guys, I have disassembled my dv6700t many times and I have also changed the grease with Arctic silver many times (vents need to be cleaned regularly :( ). Today I got an offer from a friend to sell me a T9900 for $230 or a Q9000 for $200, and that seem like a great offer since I already dont have warranty and I can sell my T9600 on ebay for about $200 anyway. BUT MY QUESTION IS : IS IT POSSIBLE TO PUT ONE OF THE TWO CPU'S ON MY MB and will it handle the power? I am especially interested in the quad-core Q9000 cpu since its cheaper and powerful. Does anyone have any clue if it will work?
     
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    No. The required FSB is different and more importantly, the BIOS won't support it so it won't even post.
     
  3. Vanko

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    Neither CPUs will work? Ok so what is the best cpu that I can put in it?
     
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    Damn we must be on the same wavelength I just started looking into the same thing tonight. I bought a new HP and it's slower that my 6700 so that's why I'm looking for 6700 upgrades.

    Right now I've got a dv6700t
    Windows 7 Ultimate
    T7500 - 2.2Ghz/800Mhz FSB
    500GB 5400RPM
    3.0GB RAM
    Nvidia 8400
    $700

    It serves me well but I'm an IT consultant, virtualization and such so I need alot of speed.
    So I ordered a dv6t Select Edition, but I'm disappointed.
    It looked like a great machine, certainly great specs.
    i7-720QM - 1.6Ghz/2.8Ghz
    6GB RAM
    500GB 7200RPM
    ATI 5650HD
    Touchscreen
    $1400

    Normal User
    For average use the dv6t thing is definitely no faster that my 6700t and at times visibly slower but a few seconds.

    Gaming
    Did some mid-range gaming nothing super heavy duty
    dv6t: Every now and then the game would freeze for 2 or 3 seconds.
    6700: Ran fine, using same settings.

    I ran those tests with my 6700t fully loaded with all my apps and junk

    I ran the tests on my dv6t twice, once as-is. And a second time with a 750GB 7200RPM drive.
    I installed Windows 7 Ultimate, drivers, windows updates, and game.
    My 6700 still outperformed it.

    If HP bothered to include the BIOS options to disable turbo boost my chip would always run at 2.8 and maybe this wouldn't be a problem.


    My T7500 has an 800Mhz FSB, if you have a T9600 than you have a 1066FSB. So I'm not sure if my motherboard supports both or if we have different ones.

    I'd apppreciate it if you kept me up to date on anything you find.
    I'll do the same for you.

    Kenny
     
  5. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I would value a Q9000 around $170, not 200. One just sold here in the NBR marketplace (almost new) for $130.

    Run CPUz and check what chipset it has, I think it's the PM965 and that would mean it doesn't support a 1066mhz fsb.

    Are you sure you have a T9600 Vanko?
    What does CPUz say?
     
  6. Vanko

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    Its T9500, I built it 3 years ago and I must have gotten mixed up since its 2.6 ghz.Yes it is a PM965, so the T9500 is the best CPU that I can put in it? Hey kenny782 why do you not like the i7? I want to get an envy 15 with the i7 rather than the i5. The i7 is a quad core prossesor it should kill the T9500 since it has a much fasteter bus speed I think 1600 or 1333 dont quote me but the T9500 has an 800 bus. Can you explain why you think its slower?
     
  7. Vanko

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    Hey I have also installed 4gb (2x2gb) kingston DDR2-667 and the CPU-Z shows that its running at 333mhz? Why is that?
     
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    Because it's DDR (double data rate), 2x 333mhz = 667mhz.
    333mhz is the real frequency and 667mhz is the effective frequency.
     
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    Oh that explains why I get 400mhz on my tx-2. So can I put ddr2 800mhz in the dv6700 and will there be a difference in speed?
     
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    The PM965 chipset supports 800mhz ram, but it will downclock to 667mhz.

    So it would be a waste of money.
     
  11. Vanko

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    Yea I just put traded ram sticks with my tx-2 (2x2gb ddr 6400) and the windows score goes up from 4.1 to 5.1 but CPU-Z still shows 333mhz instead of 400 mhz.
     
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    Your 800mhz ram might have better timings than your 667mhz ram, that would give it better performance at the same frequency.

    Check the timings in CPUz.

    Probably going to be 5-5-5-15 or 4-4-4-12 @ 667mhz.
     
  13. Vanko

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    They are both 5-5-5-15... :confused: :confused: Thanks Guys, good thing I did not jump in and buy the Q9000, I would have been very mad. I guess I need to wait until HP decides to drop the price on the envy 14($300 for the radiance screen is outrageous) or until they put an i7 in the envy 15.
     
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    Well I don't see how the windows score could go up, but it's good that it did.
     
  15. Vanko

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    Maybe it just felt better. :D :D :D So does a 667ghz + 5-5-5-15 equals a 800ghz + 6-6-6-18 in terms of speed?
     
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    No, 800mhz + 6-6-6-18 is faster.

    Tighter timings don't really give that much extra performance.
     
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    It's not neccesarily the i7 probably just this mboard, but it just doesn't respond the way I think it should.
    An i3 machine I built is way faster.
     
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    X9000 would be the max. However, you may run into heat issues. Especially if you overclock it using unclewebb's Throttlestop.
     
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    Ok since you guys seem to know the best prices for these possessors, how much should the x9000 cost (used) and will there be a noticeable speed increase?
     
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    Overclocked, there would be a difference. Otherwise no.

    Prices range from $400-$700.
     
  21. Infamous22

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    Listen to 2.0. That dude knows everything.

    I doubt the motherboard would be compatible with the Q9000.