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    Dv6t Ivy Bridge Temperatures

    Discussion in 'HP' started by bryanchk, May 16, 2012.

  1. bryanchk

    bryanchk Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hello all,

    Here is a short summary of my specs:
    HP Pavilion dv6t Quad Edition customizable Notebook PC
    • 3rd generation Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3610QM Processor (2.3 GHz, 6MB L3 Cache)
    • NVIDIA(R) GeForce(R) GT 650M Graphics with 2GB GDDR5 memory [HDMI, VGA]
    • FREE Upgrade to 8GB DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm)

    I'd like to share about my laptop's temperatures and see what u guys think abt it. My ambient temperature is between 20C-25C.
    Normally, the temperatures of CPU are between 40C-50C when idling (with Integrated Graphics in use).
    I've done some gaming on Alan Wake, COD MW3 and NFS: Shift 2. The temperature max at 85C. I'm concerned about it because my previous dv6t (Sandy Bridge w/ AMD 7690M XT) max at 75C (most of the time within 70C). The difference is quite significant.

    What are your thoughts on this?

    Thanks!! :)

    *Just ran Skyrim for a while (Half hour), the CPU max at 95C. I think this might be a problem.
     
  2. sigh

    sigh Notebook Geek

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    I've been unable to find my temp. gun but I can say mine gets hotter than most laptops I've been around. The couple of times I managed to get the 650m card to work, I found that the keyboard actually got too hot to touch for 20 min or so. Seeing as that was with minecraft, this computer does worry me a bit.

    On the one hand, I understand that it is an extreme performance computer but on the other wasn't Ivy bridge made to be 'cooler' than the previous version?
     
  3. bryanchk

    bryanchk Notebook Enthusiast

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    Have you tried using CoreTemp / HWMonitor to check your temps?
    My keyboard is not hot enough to be worried but the palm rest does get pretty hot sometimes.
    I think IVY Bridge is supposed to be cooler than Sandy Bridge except when being overclocked. However, even if it's not cooler, I don't think it should be 10-20C hotter than SB under heavy load.
     
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    I was unaware those existed... I'm slightly stuck in the early 2000's so far as computers go. I'll look into it!
    Ah, that'd be fine, but mine is gets a bit extreme. Even if it's not untouchable it's enough to make my arms sweat annoyingly much (sexy eh?).
    And that could be it. I would assume it'd be both with it overclocking and with it running at normal levels. From the quick readings I've done, the performance isn't /that/ much over 2nd gen, so indeed would not warrent that much of a temperature increase.
     
  5. jac7_98

    jac7_98 Newbie

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    I have to say I'm not surprised by this concern since you can put the same components in the 15 and the 17... I figured the 15 must get hot...


    I posted earlier about the coupon available for the HPs right now at 33% wondering if the computers were any good. I've had an HP laptop for a couple years and its been serviceable, if not amazing. The potential specs on the 3rd gen HPs today are ridiculously amazing.

    The one thing I wondered about though was the minimal price differential between the 15' and 17' pavilions. Its like $100 more for the 17 and you can fit the exact same specs in the 15...

    I'm not sure what, if any, point I'm making, but I'd love to hear comments on this version of pavilions to see if one is worth buying at this sweet discounted price.
     
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    sigh Notebook Geek

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    Gennerally /all/ 17in notebooks have that stupid +$100 thing just for being a larger computer.
    Other than screen, the main difference is what you can fit in them. For example, the 17in one can have 2 hard drives stuffed in there, where as the 15in one has only a single hard drive unit.
     
  7. bryanchk

    bryanchk Notebook Enthusiast

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    Yours sound a bit too hot. In addition, the fan in my previous dv6t seemed to work more efficiently. I could hear it spinning faster when the CPU temp went beyond 60C. Yet, this new laptop's fan has never spin that fast even the temp went beyond 70C. I think that might be part of the reason why it runs hotter.

    So, have you thought of returning / exchanging it?
     
  8. ForeverZen

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    Those temps are pretty far apart. 45c sounds marvelous, but 85 would scare me.

    What temp monitoring software do you use?
     
  9. ForeverZen

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    Apparently the cpu and gpu share one fan. Why hp did this is beyond me, but it's probably the worst design from them yet.
     
  10. bryanchk

    bryanchk Notebook Enthusiast

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    I've tried Core Temp and HW Monitor, both gave me the same result.
    85C does scare me especially when my previous one didn't even go beyond 75C.
    I'm considering returning it and getting another one and hope for better luck... :(
     
  11. ForeverZen

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    Apparently the dv6 gets hotter than the dv7 because there is less room for cooling, I don't think you got an especially bad one.
     
  12. bryanchk

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    Then I guess my prev dv6t was a lucky one that max at 75C lol Also, the 33% off coupon is attractive.
    BTW I saw Lenovo y580 with very impressive spec (GTX 660M) :D
     
  13. ForeverZen

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    Yeah but lenovo's are so ugly :O
     
  14. Mistyque

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    what are the real consequenses of those high temperatures?
     
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    Not so sure about what can happen to newer laptops, but I had an old 9000 series that melted a part of the mother board, and a few of the wires. Also the screen can get warped from the heat.
    Also it just smells bad, and in my case, you can't really touch the laptop to use it after a while.
     
  16. ssri

    ssri Notebook Evangelist

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    Plus Lenovo's Y series refresh has taken design cues from their more business-oriented V series. They certainly look sleeker now with that brushed-aluminum, but the Y580 looks beefier than HP's dv6. Still I have to admit that the 660M looks enticing.
     
  17. bryanchk

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    Have you guys tried gaming under "HP Recommended" and "High Performance" power mode to check the temp difference?
    The former max at 85C and the latter max at 95C in my laptop. I'm quite concerned about the temps:/
     
  18. ForeverZen

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    I never use any kind of manufacturer power management. I always install a clean o.s and use the windows power manager. And I set it to high performance and forget it lol.
     
  19. neon10th

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    Ehh, the 660m and the 650m use the same chip anyway so the 650m will be able to oc to 660m speeds and beyond easily anyway.
     
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    So what is up with HP's cool sense? Shouldn't that help?
     
  21. link1313

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    exactly what this guy said.
     
  22. Delgormo

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    I read that Intel skimped on their cooling paste so replacing it might fix the problem.
     
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    So upon getting my new computer, the thing does still get pretty warm but is no where near the realm of the other one.
    as of 3min after closing Batman Arkham Asylum, the hottest part of the keyboard is 93*f aka about 10* hotter than air temp aka pretty snazzy.

    The air coming out of the vent is in the 80's or so, and everything is quickly getting cooler as I'm typing. Comparing this to the other one I had (untouchable after an hour of game play and up to 5 min later), I'd say perhaps a few are better cooled than others.
     
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    I have one i7 ivy bridge and just bought another for travel and gaming so it might get hotter.... what can I do to keep it cooler?
     
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    turn off turbo by setting processor max to 99%

    turn off cores in msconfig

    underclock 650M

    use only the integrated Intel 4000HD

    replace thermal compound
     
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    only the desktop version with heat spreader.
     
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    I have the sandy bridge model and 6 months ago was asking the same question. Mine gets to 95 C when gaming. If I turn on coolsense and make it locked at 2.0 ghz, it only gets to 75 C. Both Intel and HP say 95 C is fine, 100 C is where it will start to throttle, and higher it could turn off to protect it. You won't ruin your CPU for YEARS, so don't worry about it. But 15" quad cores get hot, and eventually something else on the motherboard will probably fail.
     
  28. Ghghgh7303

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    Originally, I had max temps of 105C while playing BF3, which really is unacceptable. So I bought the U2 Coolermaster notebook cooler, and the max temp became 95C. I disabled turboboost by setting maximum CPU usage to 99%, and my max temp while playing BF3 became 85C, but it usually just fluctuated around 80C. However, what I've noticed is that the laptop's fans are not going full speed when it's at 80C when I have the cooler's fans turned on. However, when I unplug the cooler's fans, the temperature stays the same as it was before (~80C), but the laptop's fan start going much faster. I guess the default protocols that are controlling the fans consider 80C to be within normal operating parameters.

    Also, on a side note, having the laptop cooler really helped with my idle temps. Since the cooler is slanted up, it allows for better airflow, as otherwise the laptop would be sitting directly on the desk (I have the 6 cell battery). I had CPU idling temps of almost 60C without it, but it stays around 45C with it.
     
  29. sailerboy

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    I threw the laptop into hell. I turned on the IBT, Furmark Burn, and left open Core Temp and GPU-Z. After about 10 minutes, I got to 100 degrees C on the CPU (Which isn't a big deal, since TJ Max is 105 degrees, and the IBT gets the temperatures 10-15 C above normal. I don't have any pics of it right now, but I'll get them later if wanted).

    The GPU stayed below 90 degrees, which is good.

    I noticed the left palm rest WARM (under 100 degrees F), while the right palm rest is ambient. the fan was working its butt off though, and touching the fan grill became unbearable after a while. This is good, because it means that a lot of heat is being transferred away from the computer and into the environment.

    Also, the VGA port got hot. That is to be expected, considering it is mostly metal and in close proximity to the heatsink. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if HP specifically intended it to be this way, since it adds an extra heatsink to the computer
     
  30. lordbaldric

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    You're assuming the 660M's aren't higher binned parts.