ENVY 14: Boot Time LOG

Thread to log boot time.

Specify:

• Specify the boot time from button pushing to desktop Icons displayed.
• Clean win 7 install or stock install ?
• Hard drive specs or SSD
• Processor specs
• RAM
• Battery or AC ?
  

You can use the following utility to time it; http://www.planetsoft.org/utils/BootTimer.exe


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Full instructions for the msconfig tweak:

Msconfig Windows 7 is set by default for 1 processor. That strikes me as being wrong if, like me, you have a Core 2 Dual processor. I have 2 processors and not 1. You can change this in msconfig so that Windows 7 sees how many processors you have [1,2,or 4] at startup. This will speed up booting your system.

Run>type msconfig>click on 'OK'>in System Configuration select the 'Boot' tab> select 'Advanced settings'>select the 'number of processors' and use the drop down box to select how many processors your system has at its disposal. Dual Core = 2, Quad Core = 4. Click on OK in the Boot Advanced Options. In the 'Boot' tab Check the 'Make all boot settings permanent' box>Click on OK in System Configuration. Reboot your system for the changes to take effect.

 

45 Seconds to icons
Clean install
500GB 7200rpm HD
I5-520m
8GB RAM
on AC

Disabled Windows Update and 1 or two other things. Nothin' too fancy.

I'll post the difference after.

Edit: Here's the link: http://easypctutorials.blogspot.com/search/label/Performance%20tweaking

 

42 seconds to login screen, 2-3 seconds from login to desktop
Clean win 7 home premium install
Seagate Momentus XT 500gb
Core i5-520m
4gb RAM 1 dimm (will be upgrading soon)
AC power

no msconfig tweak

edit: after the msconfig tweak, nothing's really happening to the boot time. it stays the same for me...

2nd edit: left msconfig to boot using 2 cores and disabled bootable cd-rom. boot time is now 38 seconds.

 

42 Seconds after msconfig tweak.

Question: Does the computer check for discs to boot from as it's starting, and if so, can I disable that feature?

 

41 Seconds to Icons
Stock Install (removed bloatware)
160 GB SSD
i5-450m
4gb 1 dimm
Ac on

 

you can make the optical drive non bootable in the bios.

 

Have you restarted a bunch of time with your new XT? I hear it gets faster the more times it runs through a process. I'm wondering if it's worth swapping one of those with the factory HD.

 

Sweet, thanks!

 

Yea, I read the AnandTech article ( Seagate's Momentus XT Reviewed, Finally a Good Hybrid HDD - AnandTech :: Your Source for Hardware Analysis and News) and 3 reboots matches up with what I'm experiencing. Supposedly defragging resets the drive's learning but it will cache small system files that get loaded into the RAM pretty quickly. I've yet to test application load times, but to give an idea something like Photoshop CS5 loads in 12 seconds, but after closing and reopening it only takes 2 seconds.

 

39 seconds to windows theme chime thing
Stock Install (removed bloatware)
160 GB SSD
i5-450m
2x2gb Ram
Ac on

Tempted to do a clean install.. My times sucks on a SSD

 

28 seconds from HP logo to chime
34 seconds from HP logo to cursor stops spinning and fully loaded
Clean install, drivers + vmware workstation loaded
160GB SSD
i5-520m
8GB RAM
AC

 

33 seconds to desktop

Clean install
160GB SDD
4GB RAM
i5-450m
Same time with AC and on battery

 

There doesnt seem much of a difference between to ssd and hdd times =\

 

Only 2 seconds! Wow. I'm putting CS5 on my E14 so that seems totally worth it.

Ech but I'd have to do another clean install...or could I copy my entire drive to the momentus (I've got a shell for internals) and then just boot up with that one?

Probably a question for another forum. Sorry 2.0!

 

That's boot time to the login screen? (in your 2nd edit)

 

that's correct

 

Note to everybody! Do not switch your processor number in the boot options! It will freeze your CPU at one core and it will freeze that core near max speed!

 

I have a copy of AVG 8.5 Internet Security. Will that slow down my bootup a lot or just a little? or should i find something else?

 

Microsoft Security Essentials is as good if not better.

 

Maybe everyone should visit this thread at NBR and use that utility to get consistent boot times.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/windows-os-software/459125-post-your-windows-7-boot-time.html

Sounds like a vacation!

 

Guys try uninstalling your ati drivers watch as your boot time nearly splits in half its rediculous. Boot time for me is 42 seconds with those drivers installed with out 24 seconds.

Using mag xt.

Something is definetely not right, video drivers should not make your pc stop at windows logo for an extra 18 seconds thats rediculous. Hopefully the problem will be fixed in future updates.

 

these rates with your SSD seem high - did you try to disable all the Windows Aero, etc.? If you open Advanced System Settings, Performance Options, Visual effects and select adjust for best performance, it makes a significant difference. It doesn't look as pretty, but all my applications seem to run much faster and it helps battery life when I'm on battery/power saving mode. Also I disabled startup sounds and changed my wallpaper to solid color. There is a way to adjust win7 PreFetch and SuperFetch, as well, in order to focus on the bootup instead of being split between bootup and app load times.

I get about 13-14 sec using the Windows Boot Time Utility
PC Boot Timer - Reviews and free PC Boot Timer downloads at Download.com

actual measured time from power on to static cursor is longer, 15-18 sec. shutdown is about 3-4 sec.

this was not a clean install, so I still have all the typical factory settings drivers, including ATI drivers and Catalyst Control center running in startup, as well as Java Update, Intel Rapid Storage mgr, USB 3.0 monitor, Daemontools, 7zip, Winrar, and most of the typical windows stuff as well as a lot of processes for Cyberlink DVD that I think I should disable. I found out one other "process hog" dozens of processes related to Microsoft Office sharepoint from installing Office 2010 - I disabled the office processes and I uninstalled all the HP advisor/update/mediasmart/netflix/sling etc. stuff, including HP wireless advisor, since windows already has a wireless advisor that works just fine, but even after uninstall I still had to go back and disable many HP processes. Even though I removed Norton with the Norton removal tool I still found Symantec processes I had to disable as well.

Here is one guide to removing problematic startup processes that I found helpful:
http://itexpertvoice.com/home/what’s-taking-so-long-how-to-fight-slow-startup-times-in-windows-7/

I used a program called Process Monitor to make a log of all the boot processes that were running
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896645.aspx

Then I used a program called Autoruns to disable the ones that I didn't need
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb963902.aspx

 

Is this on a envy 14? If not the ati driver glitch won't happen to you. 13-14 seconds sounds about right if it wasnt for hte ati switchable graphics driver glitch for the envy 14. As for disabling aero it didnt really help much at all in boot up times I actually ended up with a worse result by a few hundred ms. The exact process that corresponds to the glitch is the ati multi-vendor miniport drivers which if removed it removes the functionality of the drivers. I can remove every other amd/ati/intel graphics process besides that one process but it will still glitch unless that one process is removed, so its not the control panels or anything like that.

If you wondering what exactly happens during the glitch basically windows usually takes 2-3 seconds after the windows logo stops moving for the logo to dissapear, while when ati driver are installed it will take 10-15 seconds.

 

I'm getting 35 seconds from pushing the power button to the desktop.

About 30 of those seconds are on the "Starting Windows" screen. Anyone know what windows is doing during this time?

Stock Install (removed bloatware)
160 GB SSD
i5-450m
4gb 1 dimm
Ac on/off same

 

Starting Windows basically...

Loading the operating system, loading drivers etc...

 

Anyone want to remeasure his boot time after optimizing services with smart ?
Tweak Windows 7 Services With SMART | Windows 7 Services Optimiser

Use the safe optimisation, it only disables useless services. This should reduce windows boot time significantly.

 

I'm glad I seen this I'm def gonna get one of these for my envy

 

You guys can shave off more boot time by disabling the graphics while booting in Windows 7.

http://www.intowindows.com/how-to-hide-windows-7-boot-screen/

 

That shaving off half a second at most aka no difference unless you have a really slow computer.

 

That Windows Boot Time program doesn't work for me, as when I restart the program never pops up again to give me my time.

 

It shaves off about 8 on my current computer. Not only is it stopping the visual from being displayed, it also doesnt take time to load the service allowing the graphics at boot

 

32 seconds 'till GINA shows up.

 

That seems huge. It shaves off nothing on my envy or my desktop. It also doesn't take 8 seconds to load a GUI when programs as large as Steam takes 2 seconds.

So that doesn't make any sense.

 

If you read my post I already told you why this happens, 10-15 seconds of that time its for some reason loading ati drivers if you were to remove the ati driver you would save 10-15 seconds the problem is then you don't have the ati switchable graphics driver installed.

On a normal computer ati drivers would only take 2-3 seconds at most to load so there is obviously some kind of glitch with ati switchable drivers and the envy 14 atm.

 

I also tested it and it barely made a difference at all, the biggest problem is still the ati switchable graphics drivers delaying it for 15 seconds.

 

There is nothing to be gained by changing the "Number of Processors" setting in MSCONFIG. It is merely a diagnostic setting for limiting the number of processors if one (or more) is suspect of being faulty. It will not change your boot time for the better...and in some cases, can actually make it worse.

Leave the setting alone.

 

I just want to clarify, I changed "Number of Processors" in MSCONFIG to 2 and have now switched it back to 1. Do I need to change anything else? Last thing I want to do is bollocks my machine trying to shave off seconds booting up...

 

Untick the box for it.

 

Boot Time: 48.024 seconds
Clean win 7 install or stock install: Clean Install
Storage: 500GB HDD Seagate Momentus
Processor: Core i5-450M
RAM: 4GB
Power: A/C

 

Boot Time: 47 Seconds Until end of Windows Chime
Stock Install
160 SSD
i5-450M
6GB RAM
A/C

After delete bloated and edited startup processes:
36 seconds until end of windows chime or ~33-34 seconds until icons

 

34 Seconds
Clean install - Windows 7 Ultimate
160GB SSD
i5-450M
6GB RAM
A/C

Will work on getting it lower

 

45 Seconds
Factory Install
i5-520
4GB RAM
256GB SSD

Not exactly what I was expecting...

 

How much faster is a clean install vs a non-clean install with removed bloatware?

 

Results on my SSD Laptop:

# Boot Time: 29.780 Seconds
# Stock Install (Deleted bloatware via Revo)
# 160 GB SDD
# Core i5-450M
# 4 GB RAM (2 Dimensions)
# AC
# No tweaks/optimization

I've noticed that restarts are much faster than solid boots (meaning from Shutdown).

Results on my HDD Laptop:

# Boot Time: 40-55 Seconds
# Clean Install
# 320 GB HDD
# Core i5-450M
# 4 GB RAM (1 Dimension)
# AC
# No Tweaks/optimization

I couldn't get BootTimer to load on my HDD E14, even after more than 20 reboots. So I improvised by using the timer on my iPod, and sadly since I don't know what exactly determines when a computer is fully booted, I provided a range.

The HP Logo in the beginning loads much faster on my HDD E14-maybe because of the clean install, maybe not, but IMO, I'm somewhat disappointed that the SSD doesn't reach up to 15-20 seconds boot. I "might" try tweaking but thats a big "maybe."

 

41 seconds
Factory Install
160gb SSD
i3-370m
4gb 1 DIMM
AC

 

Anyone here dual booting Ubuntu?

Ubuntu starts up pretty fast already (like 15 seconds for my E1505) and I was wondering if the boot up time would be like 3 seconds hehe

 

Wow, i'm liking that SSD boot. Not too bad.

 

Ok I did a clean install and some startup files like my dock and such

From button press to windows tune

33 seconds
Clean Install
160gb SSD
i5-450m
4gb 2 DIMM
AC


Much better than the 42 seconds I had before. Maybe it'll be even less after I optimize it

 

I did a "Minimized Image Recovery" instead of a clean reinstall - you can find it in the booted recovery manager (from pressing ESC during start). It took about an hour for it to reinstall the drivers and such automatically, but there seems to be absolutely no bloatware. And all the drivers seem to be there with no problems.

From button press to login (extra 1-2 secs) to icons
I've gotten 40-44 seconds
unmodified "Minimized Image Recovery"
500 GB 7200 RPM HDD
i5-520
6 gb ram
AC