ENVY 15 with IPS screen

from wikipedia: "Lenovo Group Limited (SEHK: 0992, OTCBB: LNVGY) (Chinese: 联想集团; pinyin: Liánxiǎng jítuán) is a Chinese multinational personal technology company..." ( Lenovo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)
I might be missing the point of your argument, but of course it is made in China (like nearly 100% of all laptops)

depends on your definition. If you want to be very strict about portability, then only 13" and maybe some 14" notebooks count. But as far as I have seen it, the industry describes this form factor as "thin and light" (MBP 0.95", 5.7 pounds)
Feel free to show me laptops that you would count as "thin and light" with 15" and above.

All your notebooks are around 50% thicker than the MBP 15 (besides the Vaio SE, which could be a competitor, but has the very same issue with the screen why most people are sending their Envy back), and the XPS has far worse battery life and loud fans. I don't understand your argument, sorry... Those laptops are good products, but they fall in a different category. And about the GPU power, the Envy 15 or MBP 15 or Samsung Series 7 are already at the lower end of GPU power if you consider some gaming. If you lower details all the time, you can game on the integrated graphics as well, but most of us don't want to, so the 540m is not a real option...


I don't want to offend anybody here, but the reason why so many people were excited about this laptop (and similar products) simply is that there is virtually no other option on the market right now (besides the overpriced macbook - and it's hard to say it's overpriced as long as there is not real competition)
If you don't believe this, please feel free to ask people why they are interested in this notebook. You might still be happy with some other product, as it might fit your needs, but the majority of people looking at this laptop has a very clear picture in mind what they want (and that's pretty much a MBP 15 which is more affordable and has some tweaks like USB3 and no OSX)

 

What argument? I was just providing information and an opinion. I know Lenovo is a Chinese company. I was just making sure everyone knew they outsource their manufacturing like everyone else.

And by the way, you didn't really qualify why you don't like the W520. As best as I can tell you just lumped it into the group with the other machines.

 

I don't know about you but I find Lenovo W520 to be very expensive compared to the envy. For example, a less powerful i7 2640M, a smaller 500GB and without Blu-ray player, costs about 1800$ (before taxes + shipping) after 959$ discount whereas the envy with better config cost me about 1168$ (after taxes + shipping). After taxes and shipping is accounted for, W520 would be a 2000$ laptop. I did not see anything in W520 which is 800$ better than the Envy. But to each his own!

BTW, I have looked (many physically in stores) at so many laptops in last month or so that I am bored to death looking at any laptops anymore. The only thing worth getting beyond Envy would be a Macbook. Anything else is just a waste of money!

 

I'm in a similar situation; looked at far too many laptops and strongly considering the Envy 15. Also considering the Samsung Series 7 (when a local store has one in stock for viewing). Did your travels include a look at the Samsung Series 7?

 

Yea, the Envy 15 is certainly priced right, especially if you managed to get a 30% off coupon. That knocked $575 off my Envy 15 order.

I also get ThinkPads deeply discounted so I wasn't comparing to the public site at lenovo.com. Good coupons and sale prices do show up there. You have to stay on top of the best deals.

My Apple discount is miniscule in comparison.

 

I saw Samsung Series 7 online but I absolutely needed a 1080p screen. I don't know why a high end laptop won't come with 1080p screen? It looked good otherwise but I was stopped dead in my tracks without 1080p.

 

I don't know what you are talking about. The price I quoted above was 2000$ after 959$ discounts, which is about 33% like HP. How much more discount am I expecting after that?

 

if the 15 is thin and light, then what isn't i mean, what's bigger that isn't a 17+ inch media powerhouse or gaming laptop?

 

I had trouble parsing that...

 

Dam Samsung series 7 looks sexy..Wished it had a 1080p screen so would of bought that. Do you think Samsung will announce something during CES next week?

 

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What's wrong with a Lenovo W520 that keeps it from being one of your picks?
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see above. Samsung Series 7, Envy 15, MBP 15 etc. are from the category "thin and light". If you find something competative in this category, you'll find a lot of interested people here. But I can tell you already, there is nothing else, everybody is looking for that here. If there was, you would see a lot of talking immediately.

Other than thickness: W520 1.29-1.44 Envy 1.11 the W520 is lighter than the Envy 15. The W520 has a 95% gamut screen, a 1gb memory video, similar processor, and capable of 32 gb ram, longer battery life.

So I understand it's more expensive, but it would have to be in the same category that you are talking about. The W520 can be found much cheaper than a MacPro, which you included in this category.

So I'm having trouble understanding why you are not putting the W520 in the category. Don't get me wrong - I want to like my Envy15, but the red/orange issue and the fact that it doesn't like my Samsung 830 SSD have me leaning towards returning it and trying a W520.

 

W520 is 1.44" thick, MBP 0.95"
The Envy is already a bit thicker than the MBP with its 1.11"
If you move away from the thickness argument, you can add a lot of notebooks. The thing is, for me thickness is a key point. And judging by the comments in this forum, for most people it is.

I am out of this discussion, it is far off topic and not leading to anything.
One last comment: the W520 is a black brick business notebook, the Envy a consumer style notebook. Buy it if you want to, it's a good machine.

I'll stay with my huge gaming notebook for now and wait for Ivy bridge, maybe Dell or somebody else has some inspiration by then. If not, goodbye 2000$, hello Apple (feeling ashamed already...^^)

 

Costco has the Samsung 7 series. I checked it out. Looks nice but once you pick it up you realise its made of plastic and feels cheap. Has a crappy TN panel too.

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Sadly this. I've got a w520 for work, and it's a horrible POS design wise. Internals however are *awesome*. The LCD+4 memory slots=win.

They also supply battery control software, so if you're always on AC you can set the battery to live at 40% capacity.

 

I made the mistake of getting the Envy 15 and travelling overseas to Australia with my girlfriend before I started reading this forum. The color accuracy sucks on this, and since I do web development it's a dealbreaker. What the hell were HP thinking? Honestly? Of all things to screw up?

It's been a real nightmare dealing with HP as they're basically of the opinion that I need to return to the US early (and cut our holiday short) in order to process are return for the laptop. Apparently FedExing from Oz (which is damn expensive, and I'm prepared to do) isn't an option. Grr...

Any ideas appreciated. I just can't believed how the ball was dropped on something so obvious as screen color reproduction. Even a cursory glance at the IPS panel reveals its inferiority with red, violet and to a lesser extent green.

 

they wont let you ship via fedex from australia? why?

I'm about to do the same but need to from canada (i ordered from the US though)

 

Yeah apparently it's non-negotiable, they won't accept it. The reps have been quite obstinate about it all and to be honest I don't want to / have a lot of time to spend wrestling with these guys when I am supposed to be enjoying time on holiday.

Perhaps its due to duties or somesuch that might be payable for bringing a high value item into the US (even though it was purchased and delivered our home address in Michigan?) Maybe HP would have to wear that additional cost if the item was returned from outside the US via post.

Maybe I should just ebay it and suck up the lost $ that would inevitable result in.

 

i guess ill find out soon enough how they deal with canada...

 

Hopefully you will have better luck. I'm certainly not cutting a dream holiday short to fly to Hawaii or something just so I can return my laptop.

With any luck, eBay will come to the rescue.

PS - thank you for posting the screen calibration settings. It's a shame that the panel simply isn't up to the task. I think it's just such a great shame, given how brilliant the rest of the machine is.

 

What device will you be getting? the 17inch?

 

I'm eyeing the 17-3D

 

Those of you who are keeping the ENVY 15 is the color difference that noticeable or would you say it depends on your eyes? I am getting mine this Friday

 

If you change it to my settings and nobody told you and you aren't a graphic designer, you wouldn't notice. And if you did, it wouldn't be a big deal. (the white's, viewing angles, and overall screen quality negate the one downer)

I suggest you do the settings change immediately before your eyes pick up on it and it becomes something that bugs you later on. I've stared at the original orange-red so much it's kind of haunting me in my dreams now.

 

Lol, so why are you returning and eyeing the 17-3d, you do intensive graphic design or because you've stared at it for so long?

 

No offense, but I tried your settings and they made it worse. The screen was much darker and it just shifted the colors a bit. It does not help the orange issue.

For all of you who are thinking about calibration, here is a very good analysis from a user (it's about the Sony Vaio SE screen, which is the same as far as we know and which has the same problem)

 

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i could use an external monitor....but i dunno....i'm torn, man

Definitely shouldn't make it darker. Weird.

 

How does the Samsung series 9 15 inch compare?

Samsung unveils redesigned Series 9 laptops with 13- and 15-inch displays, starting at $1,399 -- Engadget

 

based strictly on the article, a 1600x900 screen and i5 processors, and no dedicated GPU....kind hard to match that up against full HD displays and i7's

 

Yeah, the Envy 15 is a high-performance machine with moderately good portability (a genre typically defined by the MacBook Pro 15). The Samsung is an ultra-portable with little performance to speak of (basically a larger competitor to the Macbook Air 13).

 

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