ENVY 15-kXXX / ENVY 15-qXXX / ENVY 17-kXXX Notebooks (2014)

I don't think there is any. The asus N550jk is closest, and its ~$1100.

 

Interesting. The pictures look like it's an older model if I'm not mistaken? And it's not allowing for a Windows 8.1 Pro upgrade too. I'm also noticing it's missing a Wi-Fi 802.11AC upgrade option as well. But otherwise the specs look great and does indeed look like a great value.

As a note, I think with the Envy's new laptops that are mainly trying to achieve power and heat efficiency, it might explain why you can only get the dual-core i7 when trying to upgrade to a dedicated video card, especially with the "smaller" 4-cell battery and not being able to get a powerhouse i7 quad-core with a dedicated on top. They're definitely cutting corners as well maybe, but I think achieving a balance in power and heat was a main focus for those options. That doesn't necessarily mean the consumer end is going to like it.

 

Pretty much is the old model. New external changes are new touch pad, silver colour keyboard, that all folks.

HP have removed the 2 front speakers that are just under the front facing palm rest edge.

The K model are using a very small heat sink (cooling solution), thus why low wattage processor with extra GPU graphics, or high wattage processor without extra GPU graphics.

The J and Q model that were using a higher end GPU (750M/850M) must be spec with a 37W processors for the cooling solution to handle the total heat.

 

Maybe mSATA slot after all in the K model? Although remember this is HP we are talking about, they often blunder their spec

http://h20386.www2.hp.com/AustraliaStore/SubCategories.aspx?plvl=Level5&pid=C519864

Trying to work out if this machine has a mSATA slot. I suspect it may have a slot inside the machine on the underside of the motherboard. Can someone please download CPU-Z, click on the motherboard tab which will show the chipset version and then post in this thread. Cheers.


I have noticed that the dual core refresh parts have a new stepping which is D0, as the old stepping is C0, which generally mean the newer stepping usually runs a bit cooler and possibly more energy efficient.


Some info I have found about the 15-Q or 15t-Q models:

Found some interesting info on the i7-4712HQ and 850M combo motherboards. There are three different part numbers for this motherboard, blank one, one of them is a Standard and the other is a Pro.
Like I have said before, HP are bad at getting their spec correct and blunder their details often. I know first hand (after owning the unit briefly) that the 765736-501 part has the i7-4712HQ in it and not the listed i7-4702HQ which is incorrect.
I have had a good think about it, it will likely be OS embedded key, either Windows 8.1 Standard or Windows 8.1 Professional, pretty sure that is it. The blank one that is neither STD or PRO will more than likely be of FreeDOS or Windows 7 that don't need any embedded key.

765736-001 MOTHERBOARD DSC 850M 4GB i7-4702HQ HM87

765736- 501 MOTHERBOARD DSC 850M 4GB i7-4702HQ HM87 STD

765736- 601 MOTHERBOARD DSC 850M 4GB i7-4702HQ HM87 PRO

Code name for these above boards I believe is Kowalski 1.1


There is a few other motherboards boards which appear just for the 15t-Q which the CTO option, I can see the various parts that going into this, and none of them come with any mSATA cache, only normal hard drives and at best a 8GB cache mechanical drive.
UMA stand for Unified Memory Architecture, which I believe is motherboard that use integrated graphics. Motherboard part numbers are:

760289-001 MOTHERBOARD UMA HM87

760289-501 MOTHERBOARD UMA HM87 STD

760289-601 MOTHERBOARD UMA HM87 PRO


HP Envy 15t-Q000 models that are CTO with integrated graphics are part number J4Y23AV

HP Envy 15t-Q000 models that are CTO with dedicated graphics are part number J4Y24AV


From my own research into the parts, there will be no other CPU options for the quad core, just the soldered BGA chip i7-4712HQ and 850M combo. I don't believe there will be any 840M option either. Its either integrated graphics or the 850M.

 

HP ENVY 15t Slim Quad Laptop Best Value | HP® Official Store

i7 Quad core with 850m,

Really nice deal right now, coupled with NO TAX, and Free Shipping, and Coupon code: PC599Q2
Total= $825 shipped, dam I would buy this if I didn't already have a laptop.

 

I would buy this even though I already have half a dozen notebooks already.

 

Bah !?! It has the same bad quality TN screen and very probably the same bad Ralink wireless board (moreover not AC!).
To me that laptops can remain where they are.

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I have gone back an re-purchased my 15-Q, basically I wanted a touchscreen notebook with new Maxwell GPU. I am pretty much finished, as I was writing it up on the fly.

I will continue to update the review, as I go along of the next few days. Also will add tweaks, overclocks, and in shortly I will be adding regular 2.5" SSD.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-...q-nvidia-gtx-850m-haswell-maxwell-review.html

 

Can anyone confirm that the new 17t has dual HDD bay slots? An HP rep. said it does but you really can't trust the knowledge of some of those over the phone reps..

 

How are you getting the quad core with the GTX dedicated? I'm assuming it has to do with what territory you're in. I am in the US. If that's the case, I can only assume and hope we'll be getting a model that will allow for such upgrades in specs.

 

You get it through here
HP ENVY 15t Slim Quad Laptop Best Value | HP® Official Store

 

Oh, that's right! I knew that... Brain fart for a second there.

Now to hope the new models will allow such upgrades in NA sooner than later. Not exactly sure that will even be a possibility as they've been cutting corners in the new models as we've been discussing. Not sure when I'll stop being upset about that issue. But my laptop ships in 2 days and I will have some hands-on time with it before I decide whether or not I will be returning it. I think I will end up returning it, though, not to be pessimistic. Just going by impressions and the discussion thus far, it's unlikely going to be something I'll be satisfied with in the long run.

 

Hey guys.

I am sadly confirming that there is no msata slot on the K models.





However, there is a M.2 slot! Good news: requires the whole mobo to be detached from the chassis as well!

 

That is even better news M.2 is the new standard move forwards.

This particular M.2 slot looks pretty long, and with that should be able to fit the most common available drive that are currently around.

There are two types (actually there is heaps variants), mainly SATA connected bus or directly PCI-E connected bus. There are ways to tell by looking at the key of the socket, and how many pins.

M.2 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Does CPU-Z report the chipset as HM87

Pretty nice if someone wants to dump the mechanical HDD completely to save noise and cut down on weight.

If the chipset is HM87, check UEFI/BIOS for option to RAID disks. If not there then should be able to use this slot as cache.

 

The M.2 slot seems a 22110 one with "M key" connector (5 pins)


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The CPU is of a socket 1168 BGA.

For the mobo, the model is 228D. The number in the other box is 77.13.
Chipset: Intel Haswell-ULT Rev 0B
SB: Intel ID9C43 Rev 04

The bios is a Insyde F.06.

 

Plasmos,

Thanks for the info!

Thinking about to add 16g ram and M.2 SSD if my motherboard is same as yours....

How difficult to take the motherboard apart?

Mine is 15t-Touch ( customized ). Not sure it's K model or not. Specs are below:

• Windows 8.1 64
• 4th generation Intel® Core™ i7-4710HQ Quad Core Processor + Intel® HD Graphics 4600
• 15.6-inch diagonal Full HD WLED-backlit Display (1920x1080) Touchscreen
• 8GB DDR3L System Memory (1 Dimm)
• 1TB 5400 rpm Hybrid Hard Drive
• Backlit Keyboard with Fingerprint Reader
• 4-cell 41WHr Lithium-ion Battery
• SuperMulti DVD burner
• HP TrueVision HD Webcam with Dual Digital Microphone
• Intel 802.11ac WLAN and Bluetooth® [1x1]

Thanks!

 

All you need is a small magnetic phillips screwdriver, a container for all the screws, and a plastic separator tool.
It is important that you keep all the static electricity off of your body, else your mobo is probably fried and you now got a nice paperweight.
First steps include removing two rubber feet that feel like they're superglued to the laptop and removing a little mylar cover that's impossible to do without bending it.

First, follow this: Removing and Replacing the Top Cover for HP ENVY 15-k000 and HP Pavilion 15-p000 Notebook PCs HP ENVY 15-k001tx Notebook PC | HP® Support.
Make sure that when you're removing or replacing the ZIF connectors, that you never pull on them. Just lift up the little tab with your fingernail and slowly wiggle the ribbon off.

Then after the top cover is off, you have to remove five-ish(?) more screws keeping the mobo attached to the chassis.
Then you have to remove a few more ZIF connectors and the wireless card.
Then you have to remove two connectors that do require insertion force. You cannot pull the wires to get the connector off. They are very thin and feel like they cannot hold any weight. You have to be patient and slowly wiggle them off with the plastic separator tool.
Then you remove the cover that hooks the power input jack to the chassis.

At this point, the mobo should be completely free from the chassis. You have to be very careful now to not zap the mobo, or drop it, or anything really. Just treat it like a baby.

Flip the mobo over and you'll see the M.2 slot and the DDR3 slots.

Then after you're done doing stuff, you have to undo all your steps.
Then you turn on your pc and hope you didn't zap it to death and it turns on. =D

See? Pretty easy.

 

Can you please check the chipset using HWINFO, with the Summary and paste a screenshot. HWiNFO, HWiNFO32/64 - Download

 

Thanks bro!

May I know what model you are having?

Mine is 15t-Touch ( customized ). Not sure it's K model or not.

BTW, thanks for the lighting fast response!!!:thumbsup:

 

I can confirm that there are no raid options in the bios.
I got the K model without the touchscreen; the $799 base model.


Edit: Man, I give up on trying to install win7 on this thing will all of HP's win7 drivers. Something keeps breaking and I'm tired of it. I've pretty much spent my entire day trying to get win7 completely working.
I mean, I know what I'm doing. It's just that these drivers are too new to be bug free. Everything keeps breaking.
At least win9 is coming in a year-ish. /rant

 

Seems like there is RAID support for the chipset, likely HP have disabled it.

Still the is the chance of M.2 boot drive with HDD for storage.

Supports RST, could use M.2 as cache drive.

Both those things are had to be seen yet. And even if then HP will likely block it if not already.

I have the HP 840 G1 and is the exact same chipset, there is support for RAID and RST

I wonder about the quad version of the K model, as that will require a different chipset, as will not be on package like the dual cores are.

Intel-Lynx-Point-LP-Chipset

 

@plasmos: Install Ubuntu (or any updated Linux disto) and you'll get the fastest laptop you can think about.

@T2050: In order to boot from M.2 (hoping that HP hasn't disabled anything else) is needed a SSD which uses SATA pins and not PCI Express pins (both present on the M.2 connector).
Pay attention when choosing the M.2 SSD

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Obviously it is possible to boot from M.2 as otherwise HP would not be providing these as an option. Questions that remains, it can the mechanical hard drive be run at the same time as secondary data drive. This is what most people will be interested in.

In addition, on the cheap, adding in a 64GB M.2 would be great for acceleration cache using RST, if there is support for it. From memory the drive has to be pseudo RAID, but without any BIOS option, it will be a matter if windows RST software will allow this.

Just a note to those that are wanting to swap out the terrible TN screens HP uses. This time around HP are using two different display cables. If you get the 1366 x 768 panel then you will not be able to put in a 1920 x 1080 panel without buying a new display ribbon cable. If you already are on 1920 x 1080 from the factory, should be a straight swap.

 

plasmos,
I'm looking to buy a 15-k020 (with touch screen). I looked at the video you referred to for removing and replacing the top cover. All I'd be wanting to do right now is to add another 8GB memory to it. Do I have to go through all the steps and remove the top cover to get to the sodimm slot, or can the back cover be removed to access the memory slot? Thanks for all the info you've shared with us.

 

roctsttr,

Sorry to tell you that there is NO service door on the bottom on K model.
Mine is 15t-Touch model ( only add hybrid drive to it ) and I believe it's same as 15-K020us ( K model )
I am thinking to add another 8g to it ( or/and M.2 ssd if workable )

 

What is the model number of the FHD 1920 x 1080 panel used in the K?

 

HI T2050,

According to my packing list, it is shown 15.6 Full Wled Display (1920x1080) Touchscreen.......Item# J8S49AV

BTW, my unit is 15t-Touch model ( Part# J1H35AV ). After adding FHD, 1TB SSHD, backlit keyboard and 802.11 AC, the Part# is became G0T55AV

Not sure it's K model but compare to 15-K020US with my unit, the only difference is 1TB SSHD

 

Thanks, but you will need to download HWinfo64 and go to the monitor tab grab the details from there, or better still post us a screen shot. Cheers. HWiNFO, HWiNFO32/64 - Download

btw. Your model is the K model.

 

I was just about to order the 15t slim quad but I'm having reservations now...

Is the screen really that bad? I thought a non-touch variant should have decent screen.

I note above that in order to access the HDD, dimms etc... the whole MB must be removed - is that the case with this variant too?

If I do order I'll be upping the RAM to 16gb immediatly and depending on performance I might put an SSD or hybrid in there - is that even possible with this?

Does it have the M.2 slot?

Thanks in advance.

J

 

Here is the info of the FHD display..hope it will help

 

The screen is not that bad, I'm using it right now and its completely fine. I have CHI MEI Innolux one. Go to best buy and see for yourself, the envy models use the same screen. Yes there are better screens but they come on Alienwares, and Asus ROG, which are all above $1500. The 15t slim has a door to open so its very easy to upgrade. Idk if it has M.2 Slot, but I doubt it.

 

On my Envy 15-jxxx with the LCD changed (LG-Philips IPS LP156WF4 SLB6) the HWiNFO window is this one:


Is it normal that:
- the model is different (SLB2) from that printed on the sticker,
- the production week is 0 and year is 2011,
- the serial number is unknown ?

 

Thank you for posting that. The panel model in your unit is Chi Mei CMN15B9 which I don't know much about, but if it anything like the Envy 15-J panels that are FHD, those one are rubbish. How does the the 15-K compare, its it actually a better panel or just more of the same?

I don't really expect to get IPS unless otherwise stated, a good TN is acceptable. What is unacceptable is if the screen is so bad it has almost no viewing and the colours are washed out, just like the 15-J and refreshed 15-Q, which both use the same horrible panels. How much better is the panel in the K model?

 

It's okay for me (probably not to your tastes though lol) though certainly not the best display ever.

Colors are washed out and inverted when viewing from the extreme angles (at about a 45deg angle from the center of the panel) in any direction.
The top 5% of the screen is always a little washed out, but it's only really visible when viewing a black screen (eg pc starting up).
It's the same thing for the bottom 5%, which feels a little whiter than the rest of the screen, also only really visible on black screens.

 

My good old Alienware 17 R3 has a TN panel, but is more that acceptable, which is almost similar to a desktop monitor TN screen. That is in a different league although.

Viewing straight on is important to me without the colours inverting, which I found both the Envy 15-J and 15-Q do.

5% is not much to move at all (left and right does not bother me much), would you say it would pretty much expect the same as the Envy 15-J models panels?

 

I don't know. I never had a 15-J.

The top/bottom 5% doesn't really bother me that much. It's one of those things that's only really visible if you keep actively looking for it. You know what I'm saying?
The effect is subtle at best. Like I said, it's only really noticeable when you're looking at a full screen single color image (like black when the pc starts up). You can see a gradient effect.

 

Is there any screen door effect, like vertical bands that run across the screen?

 

none whatsoever

 

I ordered 15-J150US from Newegg couple weeks before new Envy model came out.

My wife didn't like it because the screen is washed out pretty bad. So I returned it to Newegg and then ordered new Envy from HP online.

When the new Envy received from HP, she said the screen is way better than J model that I ordered from Newegg..

 

The refreshed 15-Q which is based on the 15-J model, that I created a user forum review on here, that has the exactly same parts numbers for the panel for both the 15-Q and 15-J. The 15-Q is a powerhouse with the i7-4712HQ and 850M, in which I tried to live with the screen, but after the second day I couldn't take it anymore. No point having a powerful machine (paid a lot more as mine was fully spec out) and having one of the worse screens ever. Usually with a FHD panel it is a bit better quality than the HD panel, I found both the 15-J and 15-Q to both be sub-par.

If you check out the second photo in the thread, you will see I took the photo from above the panel and this is the spot, then even then the top corner is inverted. Once eyes at parallel straight on in the middle most of the hills in the background and just inverted black negative in colour.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-...q-nvidia-gtx-850m-haswell-maxwell-review.html

I just want to make sure HP have change the panel type to something else better and usable with the K model. Personally I would only buy the K model if extremely discounted, I refuse to paid quad core prices for a dual core notebook.

 

That's weird, the envy 15t-q100 laptop and it has the 1080p CHI MEI screen, not AUO like yours. The screen seems pretty decent, and would give it a 4/5 rating for a non-ips screen. Maybe USA models get different screens, or repeating last years issues, like in the pic below. Clearly the CHI MEI is the much better screen.

http://i.imgur.com/k9Ex2N3.jpg

 

I looked at my friend's 768p K model.
That panel is a AUO B156XW04 V5 - AUO45EC

So the 1080p models got the better deal for sure.

 

The old 15-Jxxx model can have installed the Chimei or the AUO 1080p lcd... it depends on your lucky!
So I think that also the new model it's the same.

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I guess that would be your personal thoughts, maybe yours is some kind of revised model which I would doubt. I'm happy you can tolerate it.

I have reviewed both these units, both have a glass touchscreen if that is interfering with the picture, I don't know. What I do know is that AUO and the Chimei are as bad as each other.

Please read my comments and check out the photos on the panel from this review I did on here when the 15-J first was out, this has the CMN15BB

http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-...rt-15-j000-amd-a10-5750m-richland-review.html

 

T2050,




I believe I got HM87 chipset.

Does that mean I can put M.2 ssd and use as system boot drive and still keep my sshd as the main storage without any conflict?

BTW, is it necessary to upgrade RAM to 16gb if adding M.2 ssd?

 

Yes you should be able to do this, the HM87 supports this, and it also supports SSD cache or known as Intel RST. The main question that is yet to be seen is, has HP locked down this BIOS so we cannot neither boot with a M.2 plus HDD and has locked out RST.

In any case I would believe you can boot from directly from the M.2 drive without a HDD in it. I only can say this as HP offer it as an option, so it should work.

I would believe RST will work, as I think that would be harder or more hassle for HP to lock out, and Intel has RST built in to their software with HM87 chipset supporting it.

No you don't need to upgrade the RAM in your system to add a M.2 drive, those are two different components.

Good luck.

 

HP ENVY 15t Slim Quad Laptop Best Value | HP® Official Store

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Gaming laptop for $725

 

I would best that with a $175 off $899 coupon.

I added a couple upgrades including GTX 850, 1TB Hybrid HD, 1080 HD screen, back-lit keyboard and AC wireless card among other upgrades to get a $734.99 laptop. You cannot, however, apply this coupon to the HP ENVY 15t Slim Quad Laptop Best Value laptop because it has a $50 instant savings which brings it down to $849 and cannot add various upgrades to bring the price up. (EDIT: Apparently it does work! Thanks for clarifying, E90dima)

Use coupon code PCXP14.

There'll be a 20% coupon soon and if you could wait, I would suggest doing that.

PS I am receiving my HP ENVY 15t today! No more anxious waiting!

 

Actually it does work for the 15t envy slim, try it.
But yea that's also a great deal.