Envy 14 - UK Thread

God damn you! Stop saying things like that!
Im only jealous

 

This confirms all my fears - I have to get the 1600x900 resolution...

Even with my UK friends and family discount I'm just not willing to sacrifice... Argh, F You HP.

Oh and from what I gathered from HP, as long as the parts are available we will be ok for warranty. However, the high resolution screen isn't available in the UK, so I doubt they will replace it with that (if it was required)...

 

Right, so now it appears that ALMOST everyone is probably going to import this with the 1600x900 screen, what is "our" plan of attack? eBay, even though it will probably come out more expensive?

 

Importing would work out fine, even with the expensive shipping, EXCEPT for the import taxation. It's the 17.5% VAT for customs that kills the deal.

Buying from one of the ebay sellers you'd get credit card/paypal protection, and even with the $160 postage/courier cost you could have one for less than the UK price, but with the 1600x900 panel everyone wants. HOWEVER, as soon as it passes through HM Customs and Excise grubby little paws, you risk another £150 - £200 going on top, which is really going to hurt.

I do'nt see a (sure fire) way around that. Maybe you'd get away with it, maybe you wouldn't. I'm doubtful, and it's a lot of extra money to risk.

 

It's like playing a game of Risk, only instead of losing little plastic soldiers, you could lose a £1000 laptop

 

if you are ordering from the UK, you can use this code; HPDISVR5 for 5% off, works on JAYJAYs link and as mentions another 8% from quidco making it £716!

still gutted about the screen.

 

For anyone that doesn't mind about the screen resolution, £716 is a total steal!

 

Yer that is a really good price for an Envy especially one in the UK even with the low resolution. It almost makes me want to buy it and sell it when the newer Envy 14 1100 models comes out which I recon will have the 1600x900 display.

 

I'm not convinced that'll happen myself but I mustn't be defeatist! Think positive and all that jazz

 

Well lads, i'm pretty much decided - was searching or alturnatives til the wee hours last night, and since i got back from work today - i am ordering a UK Envy, crappy screen and all.

Because i'm using a uni grant, i really have to order it from the UK which sucks, but, there's simply no other laptops that comes close to offering what the Envy does, it's the perfect size, ample power, great sound, gorgeous design, and even though it's not the radience, reckon the screen should still be pretty decent.

Plus, who knows in a year or so, my screen might just accidently break and be replaced by radiance

At the end of the day, while it feels very very sore getting second best from HP, as far as i can tell nothing else in the UK comes close to the envy's second best...

 

Interesting concept and quite possibly true
If importing becomes too much of a headache it might be quite a viable option
Im sure you'll be stupidly happy with your envy, no matter what resolution you end up with! So enjoy it

 

Cheers mate , a thought which has just occurred to me (clinging to hope), the 1366 x 768 uses the same tech as the Envy 15 screen, it's essentially a smaller version of it no? And we all liked the 15 screen lots, right?

David

 

Well we could all club together and buy in bulk direct from China and distribute accordingly? Long shot of course lol

 

What? New Envy 14 1100 models? I haven't heard about those, what's all that then? More info, url?

 

well... it's what happens usually with any HP models

 

Yer it the way HP works .... if you check out other Envys or pavillions etc you will see u have different generation models take mine for example i have the dv6-1130sa that is the dv6 1100 series previously there was the dv6 1000 series.

 

Dave i think i am going to be doing the same and getting the UK model to as some people may have been lucky with this whole international buying whereas one of us could get unlucky with exercise, duty, and VAT taxing which would put the price up considerably.

So the plan is to have this one until the better comes out in my estimated guess of 6 months plus.

at least we still have the amazing beats audio, ATI 5650 (switchable) and i5-450. not forgetting the little features such as low light HD webcam, display port with Eyefinity enabled and a nice discrete slot loads drive. Closest Windows alternative to the MBP

 

*Oops, this post quickly edited.*

I got my sums wrong, I was wondering how you got down to £716 from the £999 price, but of course that was from the vastly reduced price that Jayjay pointed us towards with his url.

I wonder if HP will honour that reduced price.. it seems odd to have it tucked away there at such a big discount.

 

Jay, my thoughts exactly mate, it's not as if in the UK we really have an option for better screens from another laptop. I've read nothing but bad things about the 14" 1600 x 900 screen on the HP 8440p, and the only thing that comes close is the Dell Studio 15, which when i specced it up came to £1,300! Plus, i will not buy sony

Reckon this really is the best laptop about, and the tart in me just thinks it's pretty as! haha

David

 

You never know, it might be like the Canadians and we are actually going to end up with 1600x900 Radiance screens...a guy can dream, right?

 

Daaah, don't do that to me man! just resigned myslef to being happy with Brightview

 

I think at £999 it's over priced, but if you can use JayJay's link and go in via Quidco and actually get one for £716 you'll have a stonking bargain, and should feel delighted.

It's understandable you're feeling a bit put out at not having the 1600x900 Radiance panel, but the UK spec one isn't bad. It's simply a decent quality, standard panel, the same as on almost all lappys of this size, so you're not buying a turkey or anything.

You still get the beautiful design, slim form, good battery life, great cpu, good graphics capability and all the other little bits and pieces.

I'm willing to bet the Beats Audio is a bit of marketing guff though... this is a laptop, it ain't ever gonna sound good.

If you are going to do it via Quidco (and you should if possible) then be VERY careful to clear all yoru cookies etc first. You need to erase all traces of the HP websites from your cache, and all the related cookies. Then, make sure your browser accepts tracking cookies and load up Quidco, use their link to go to HP website, THEN use JayJay's link to navigate to the reduced price Envy, and complete your purchase in one hit, using the additional 5% off code at checkout. I reckon that should give you the best chance of claiming both reductions.

Quidco are pretty reliable, I've always had my money from them, except on one transaction the retailer unfairly rejected (screw you LaptopsDirect!). It can sometimes take a couple of months for the cashback to work it's way to you, but they're reliable.

 

that was my dream as well XD

But there's only so long i can wait...

 

I know, I know

Man, if we could order in bulk from somewhere then i'd be totally up for doing that

 

Has anyone here tried to contact HP about the lack of Radiance screen ? It might actually come as an update later, or am I just dreaming ?

 

I haven't but I don't think it will really be possible. It may come at a later date but they certainly won't have a time frame on it (and thats on the assumption they are even planning on an update).
Complaining won't do much good either

I wonder if it's possible for HP to order units from the states, to be delivered over here? Im sure it goes against there business model or something but they must have some sort of contact.

Again, just dreaming

 

let me just dash your hopes... the envy 15 has been out for 2 years, for one day a second gen model was released with the full HD display. I waited 2 years for a full HD display to get that laptop and HP screwed me over.

Just my frustration at HP UK

 

Sounds about right lol

I wonder if I could persuade one of the lovely, amazing, fantastic United States of America citizens, to pick up an Envy 14 and ship it for me...

 

Yep i did and i got through to the manager which said its out of the sales peoples hands as the higher up exec's make the decision to what country gets what configuration depending on what they "think the customer wants" (yer they really know what we want)!

i told the manager i am in a community of people which have been waiting for the Envy 14 for a long time and now have come to be disappointed by the screen given on what is suppose to be a premium product which is suppose to be differentiated from others. She said if i have evidence of customers turning away from HPs product she can send it onto people that might be able to make a change in the future of that product. so i sent her an email with this thread in which show how angered we all are about it and all our reconsiderations.

I doubt i will hear anything more as HP have enough revenue to carry on without our custom and dont really seems to care unless its to do with the US.

 

exactly and you know what im so anti sony too

Lets get our Envy's

 

Jay...David...You have my full backing guys...go gettem'
*waits*

 

I think you might just have tipped off HP that we found that link to the reduced price E14.

 

Aye mate, good shout i reckon. That said, even if HP do read this thred we're still bending over and buying whatever they give us

When you ordering then? I'm gunna try and ring from work tommrow if i get a chance

David

 

Just off topic for a moment, but is it wrong that as I sit here, reading this topic and constantly hammering F5 to see if anyone else has replied, that im humming "Maniac by Michael Sembello"...I think I need professional help

 

haha, nah mate it's all good So glad i stumbled on this place - great little corner of the internet

David

 

You say that now... you wait, just you wait

 

I just noticed, that link from JayJay indicates the reduced price is part of some promo deal, and the Envy there comes bundled WITH an HP inkjet printer and usb cable.

Okay, it's only a cheap printer, but blimey, it make the deal very cheap indeed with the 5% discont code, and the quidco 8%.

 

Yer man im giving in i love the laptop too much regardless of the screen so HP yes u have won me over... dammit!

Ordering either tomorrow or definitely friday... really cant wait to know that its on its way. and get this... the cheaper option says that the laptop is available immediately whereas the £999 one says within two weeks so hopefully that parts true and we get a cheap most prob pants printer lol

 

guys the cheap link you're talking about is part of HP Business, not home & office. Are there any conditions for you to join HP Business??

 

Looks like the Envy 14 is on sale in Germany with the 1600x900 Radiance panel.

There's this E14 video review by a German guy up on youtube:

YouTube - HP Envy 14 - a first look.

The E14 seems to be listed here at the German HP website, and, although I can't read German, the spec clearly says Radiance:

HP Envy Home Notebook-PCs - Vergleichsergebnisse Privatanwender - HP

Price is 1300 euros, so slightly more than the standard UK retail price, but there would be absolutely no import tax or duty when shipping one into the UK from Germany.

Maybe worth considering?

 

Could be but it will come with a QWERTZ keyboard!

 

Seeing as the Envy is being sold over here (finally) im sure a UK keyboard could be found over here and then installed.

I think that could possibly be a better idea than importing from the US but it's swings and roundabouts, you lose the hassle of import tax and customs but you gain the hassle of HAVING to swap out a keyboard.

EDIT: Also has anyone actually tried to buy that "cheap" Envy? I just did, I added it to the basket but then when I went to checkout it said that my basket was empty. So maybe it's not actually available at the cheaper price

 

Hi guys, found this thread the other day. I was in the same position as everyone else, wanting the better screen. When I saw JayJay's link to the cheaper price, I decided to go for that. Paying £999 for a worse spec than the US seemed painful but at the cheaper price it's a bargain! I used the 5% discount code and also tried to use Quidco, but I'm not sure if that worked out. Anyway, I have had an order acknowledged, then order accepted email. So it looks like it's all going through at the price of £775.80.

 

It looks like it works from here, although I've not gone all the way through and purchased of course.

When I hit the buy button the Envy 14 is added to my basket, along with a D2600 printer and Belkin USB cable. The checkout page accepts the 5% HPDISVR5 discount code and brings the total payable to down £775.80 (including VAT). If I continue on it then wants my address and payment details, so it looks pukka to me.

It's a good deal at that price, and if I didn't have a friend bringing me back a US model I would jump all over this offer (trying to get the Quidco 8% off as well of course).

 

Nice one. I agree, at £775 it's a good buy, and hopefully you'll be very happy with it. It's also helpful for others to know the deal is actually available. I'll keep my fingers crossed for you on the 8% Quidco.

Apprerciate it if you could drop back and update us on delivery date and first impressions.

What are you gonna do with your cheapo 30 quid printer?

 

Congrats on your new purchase!
If you do manage to get it for £775 then you have yourself a bargain of a notebook, even with the lower resolution screen.

Will you give us your reactions on the model when you get it?

Ah fair enough, must be something my end that is messing up

 

Yeah I'll drop in an update when it's shipping, no idea how long that will be though. The 'proper' page said within 2 weeks, so it shouldn't take too long. I think the page with the cheaper price said immediate availability, but if the price was incorrect there I would guess that is too.

As for the printer, perhaps give it away or use it to prop a door open. On the other hand, my current printer is a Lexmark, so maybe it'll be an improvement!

 

Sure, I'll pop in an update once it arrives and give my view on the lower res screen. I can also compare to my Dell M1330, which it will be replacing.

EDIT: Seems HP have now taken down the page with the cheaper price. Maybe I got in just in time...

 

Uh oh... that might not be good news for you. I hope they honour it and you get your Envy at the £775 price.

 

I sincerely doubt they will but fingers crossed