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    Envy 14 Poor Battery Life - Demand HP Action

    Discussion in 'HP' started by demiller66, Aug 14, 2010.

  1. demiller66

    demiller66 Notebook Enthusiast

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    If you are like me, you purchased an HP Envy 14 based in large part on the claim of " up to 7hrs battery life" and " up to 14hrs" with the extended life battery ("slice"). These claims came from several HP sources:

    The HP Envy Campaign Page High Performance Laptops w/ Free Audio Software | HP Envy Features

    A video with HP reps (7hrs (14 with slice)) YouTube - HP Envy 17 and HP Envy 14

    and an HP Press Release HP Expands Design Leadership with Updated Consumer Notebook PC Portfolio
    (up to 6 hrs)

    And, if you are like me, you received your Envy and tested it immediately, only to find out that no matter what you did, turned the brightness down, ended processes, shut off bluetooth and wireless, got rid of "bloatware", held it in your arms like a baby that needed coddling while you prayed to the battery god for an extra minute of life, you achieved little more than half of the max life (approx 3hrs or 7 with the slice).

    Thus, the reason I started this thread (a petition of sorts): 1. To show to HP that I am not the only unhappy customer, 2. To provide a single location/database to which I can point and they can look containing statements by owners regarding the unsatisfactory battery life, and 3. To demand that HP take action immediately and remedy this situation.

    Please post your specs, settings, battery life, and a simple statement requesting HP fix the problem (i.e. "Please fix this problem").

    • HP Envy 14 i5 - 520, 1x4gb ddr3, 500gb hdd
    • Power saver, intel graphics, bluetooth and wireless off, idle (not using the computer)
    • Approx 3:30 with 8 cell and 7 with slice

    Dear HP,
    I am writing to express my extreme disappointment with my recent HP Envy 14 purchase. I bought the Envy 14 expecting to achieve up to 7hrs of battery life (14 w/slice) as was advertised. However, regardless of the settings I use, I achieve only about half of the advertised life.

    I have called HP support, performed a battery check, flashed the latest bios, and (optional "replaced the battery"). To date my battery life is still half of what it should be. Please address and fix this issue immediately, so I may have the computer with the specs for which I paid.

    Thank you.
     
  2. wizrd54

    wizrd54 Notebook Enthusiast

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    all battery claims for any laptop manufacturer are usually only when the laptop is idle with the lowest settings. it's just the way of the world.
     
  3. GivingHope

    GivingHope Notebook Consultant

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    Ugh. Same here. I only get 3 hours of battery life on min brightness, intel GMA, power saver, and on light browsing.
     
  4. wizrd54

    wizrd54 Notebook Enthusiast

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    how can you guys only be getting 3 hours? i get about 3 with my envy 15
     
  5. MagusDraco

    MagusDraco Biiiiiiirrrrdmaaaaaaan

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    you're supposed to be getting about 4 hours with 100% brightness with an i5 and the IGP turned on

    some people are getting like 2ish hours because they have bad batteries.

    others have a bios issue where the battery isn't being charged right (reports that it's full when it's not)


    both issues are pretty rare though.
     
  6. tornbacchus

    tornbacchus GO leafs.. Wait, Nevermid

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    I believe they tested the battery life in the HP quickweb.

    I have yet to test my battery life yet, but I get around 3.5-4 hours on wifi, full brightness, doing internet browsing, emails etc.
     
  7. 2.0

    2.0 Former NBR Macro-Mod®

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    I'm hoping that you actually sent a copy of this to HP. Snail mail preferably. With your serial number also.

    'Cause we ain't gots no HP reps he'ya.

    Seriously we don't. Moreover, we don't have any evidence that anyone from HP reads this site. They seem to only monitor popular blogs that cry foul and can hurt their image. Well at least their PR and legal teams do.

    Just sayin' so you don't invest too much energy here.
     
  8. Beric1

    Beric1 Notebook Evangelist

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    I got one or the other. Wish I weren't going on vacation now, or I'd get his sorted out.
     
  9. demiller66

    demiller66 Notebook Enthusiast

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    I have tested my laptop at idle on the lowest settings possible, still 3 hrs.
     
  10. demiller66

    demiller66 Notebook Enthusiast

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    I have done so. Thx.
     
  11. ColdHeat

    ColdHeat Notebook Geek

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    HP's Test goes into some settings tho.
    Max Processor was 25% I think. Low low brightness and wifi off and such.
     
  12. HTWingNut

    HTWingNut Potato

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    Actually battery test is the one thing I haven't done. Guess I'll have to give it a go one of these days.
     
  13. 2.0

    2.0 Former NBR Macro-Mod®

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  14. papalazarou

    papalazarou Notebook Consultant

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    You could you just troll HP to submission, claiming that you cannot get the 7 hours battery life, and then have them send you a new battery until :

    1) they run out of batteries
    2) they release a 95WH battery
    3) call the cops
     
  15. HTWingNut

    HTWingNut Potato

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    THIS PLEASE!
     
  16. iNoob.x

    iNoob.x Notebook Evangelist

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    Strange. I should get about 6+ hours with 20% brightness, WiFi, IGP, researching med school admission requirements (i.e. constant web browsing). I'm at around 5 hours right now but there's still 22% battery left. It would be nice to get 7 hours with 100% brightness though...that would be epic!
     
  17. Mike415

    Mike415 Notebook Evangelist

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    I get 3.5-4 with brightness very low or lowest, power savings, intel, bluetooth off, wifi on, average surfing net. I was at 4.5 with these settings before, like 1st and 2nd charge

    How does getting a new battery work?
     
  18. TimBoneH2

    TimBoneH2 Notebook Enthusiast

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    I was getting 2:30 hr battery life with the stock battery so I contacted HP, had a new battery shipped to me...I now have a 2:37 max battery life. Yay? Perhaps I got two duds?

    i5, power saving, yadda yadda
     
  19. GivingHope

    GivingHope Notebook Consultant

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    Someone here has bad battery life (2hrs?) even after RMAing the battery. HP told him the mobo might be the problem...
     
  20. lthh89vt

    lthh89vt Newbie

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    Same here!
    I reinstall windows and with only windows running. I get 1h10mins for my HP envy 14 - Core i7 740M.....
    Try to contact HP Australia with no hope.....
     
  21. ijm5012

    ijm5012 Notebook Enthusiast

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    As 2.0 said in his post, a number of these issues have been discussed and answered over in the Battery Life Log thread
     
  22. kaichan918

    kaichan918 Notebook Consultant

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    i have two standard batteries that run at about 2:30 max, medium to high brightness, intergrated graphics, no wifi and just word processing. this is bs battery. i called HP last week and they gave me a hard time, end of story i couldnt get a battery swap or a new one. He told me to run some stupid hp software test and said my battery was fine. he also said the Envy 14 actually battery life is around 2.5 hours.
     
  23. excalibur1814

    excalibur1814 Notebook Evangelist

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    What is your cpu usage after being idle for 3 minutes? Hope it's 0%....
     
  24. awdotson

    awdotson Notebook Consultant

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    Caveat emptor

    I really don't see the point in a post like this, what do you want to get out of it? HP's website claims 6 hours tops with multiple asterisks saying your mileage will vary. And obviously, everyones mileage varies.

    Hp can't magically break the laws of physics and give us better battery tech, trust me there are tons of firms working on doing just that. They also can't magically make the gen 1 i5 and i7 more efficient.

    You're fooling yourself if you think you can get 6-8 hours of "real" usage out of any laptop that isn't seriously crippled. Like netbooks, CULV solutions, etc. There are a lot of things you can do as a user to bring your numbers up, but I have to say, if the battery was your most important reason for purchasing this laptop you should've gone with a different product. There are plenty of reviews out there. I really don't buy the claim of feigned ignorance when you can google anything and get some real numbers that aren't pie in the sky marketing.

    And it's not like this is HP's sole fault. This is the standard in the industry, everyone posts unrealistic battery life because their marketing employees know it would be suicide to do otherwise.
     
  25. akashhhhh

    akashhhhh Notebook Consultant

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    FWIW: If I take my computer to a cafe, operate on GMA, medium brightness, no wifi...just typing word docs...I can get about 4 hours. About what I was expecting.
     
  26. pez319

    pez319 Notebook Consultant

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    Yea I average 4 hrs too with light internet usage. I don't get how people complain about advertised battery life's being sooo off. I mean how can companies provide a realistic battery life when people do so many different things when they use their computer. If one person watches videos and plays games obviously their battery life is going to be less. That's why they gimp it when they test it because that's the only "neutral" measurement. Yea theirs some marketing influences but I don't think its as bad as LCD companies which claim 100,000,000:1 dynamic contrast which is basically a completely useless figure.
     
  27. lthh89vt

    lthh89vt Newbie

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    As a reply to you guys.
    Do you expect HP Envy battery backup for ONLY 1 hour 10mins while they claim it could be up to 7 hours.

    Please don't tell me that because I'm running heavy programs. I reinstall windows 7 and run windows only to test. Even No internet connection.

    Regards,
     
  28. lammah

    lammah Notebook Evangelist

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    I often get over 4h00 with wifi ON doing light browsing / document editing.
    I did tweak my settings and clean up some software.
    It gets well above 8h with the slice.

    I am perfectly happy with that.
     
  29. ironman

    ironman Notebook Evangelist

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    if you are not getting 3-4 hours with new batterry with light use.. I would return/exchange for another one.
     
  30. pez319

    pez319 Notebook Consultant

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    Based off what you said we can't say if theres something wrong. I had i7 720qm processor and it would only last 2hr with internet use and document editing. That's because there is no integrated graphics on the i7 so the ati is constantly running. It also has 2 extra cores and a higher watt demand then the i5. So if you have an i7 I wouldn't be surprised if you get only 1-2hrs. That 7hrs they advertise is for an i5 400 series probably. There's no such thing as a free lunch and if you want more power then it will cost you more battery life.

    The point is no company can provide a realistic battery life expectancy when theres so many different variables that it depends on. They obviously pick the best looking numbers for the advertisement just like any other company.
     
  31. DerekAMG

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    my battery life on my i7 envy 14 with slice is only like 3:30-4 Hours kinda shi**y
    hope its normal battery check says both batteries are fine but it seems like the slice, at least mine isnt living up to the hype.
     
  32. awdotson

    awdotson Notebook Consultant

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    Derek, compared to what? You aren't going to get an i7 that lasts if it isn't a 2nd generation chip.