Envy 14 brightview vs radiance (pics)

EDIT: Upped some more pics..I was one of the people who was saying the radiance is over-rated but now im ready to eat my words =P, using the radiance for 2 days, it makes the brightview look horrible. Do I still think the Envy is worth it without the radiance? YES, but only if you've never seen the radiance, because once you go radiance, theres no going back. So to all the brightview owners, remember, never look at a radiance Envy lol.

Just got my Envy 14 and so here's a comparison, I'll have my old Envy 14 for the next 2 or 3 days so let me know what comparisons you want me to do, right now all I have is the desktop backgrounds. Both displays were at maximum brightness.

The Envy 14 is significantly brighter and colors are much better but it's still just a screen, I know some people make the radiance sound like a god but a screen is a screen, don't expect 3D eye-popping effects or anything, I think the Envy 14 is definately still worth it even without the radiance.

Other than the screen, it did have a slightly raised touchpad but to my surprise, I just pushed down on it and it was flat..looks perfect now. It's also lighter than my beats edition, and feels thinner. I still miss the rubber palm rests though.

The brightview by itself looks like a good screen, but compared to the radiance you will notice that the colors are washed out..not sure how much you can tell from the pics though. In one of the pics, I set the radiance display to 1366x768 resolution so you can compare just the colors and contrast.

Sorry if the quality is bad, took the pics with my phone...I hope I dont have to tell you guys which one is the radiance =P

 

Not to sound ungrateful, but do you have something other than a phone to take photos with? I personally can't see a whole lot of difference between the two in that picture...

Thanks for the comparison anyway.

 

waleed,

How do the black levels and viewing angles compare between the two screens?

 

it just looks brighter to me.

 

Wow, thank you so much for taking the trouble to do this! I'm sure everybody appreciates it and this will become reference for those in doubt .

There's clearly a difference between the two. But the fact that we're seeing the pictures through a screen, and that they were captured by camera lenses, makes those differences a little less obvious, so I believe one has to see them in person to really notice.

Having said that, I believe those differences are not night and day. What we see through the pictures might be like 60% of the real thing, and while the colors do look nicer on the radiance and it's a lot brighter, it's not like the BV is black & white and the radiance is full color.

If I may suggest, you could try taking two more shots like those (with the picture in the backround), but this time make them close ups of each, and turn on the ambiance lightning. Cameraphones try too hard to take pictures under low light conditions, so with ambiance light we might have better results (as long as it doesn't get directly reflected on the screen)

Thank you again so much for your kindness. I wish I could lend you my DSLR!

Edit: Forget what I said about ambiance lightning... if you make them close ups, it should be ok (the ambiance lightning might distort the colors further, unless it's white light). Also, if it's not much abuse, it'd be interesting to get a pic with the radiance on a comparable brightness setting and see how the colors match up!

 

Don't you mean ambient? Or unless you meant hes trying to set some kind of mood in the room, I dunno Radiance lust?

 

Oh, the LOLs!. Sorry, english is not my native tongue... sometimes I get words mixed up in an embarrasing way . Ambiance = Ambient + Radiance. There!

 

I so wanted to do this with my DSLR, before HP had cancelled my order.

My plan was to do it under the following conditions:

1. All white
2. All black
3. Landscape/Scenery
4. Viewing Angles
5. Macro

;-)

Thanks waleed. This should be proof that if you can't tell the difference between the two, you don't belong here (jk).

 

I really want to see how much bigger the fonts are with the BV, can u take a shot with both the mozilla firefox on a forum.

 

h3nG looking forward to your DSLR camera pics of the two screens, and waleed786 nice pics, I could see the diff. in brightness and color saturation.


KJ

 

The contrast and brightness is much better with the display on the right, as well as the overall definition of the image on the desktop. The difference is there, and easily detectable by even untrained eyes.

 

Waleed, I fixed the error you were getting so the photos display. Hit edit or quote your post so that you can see how it was done.

 

alright thanks I'll try it again..sorry I don't have a dslr camera for quality pics, the best I have is a 6mp digital camera which I'll use when I get home to take more pics the way you guys asked

 

Thank you very much for this.

For some reason, your radiance display looks so much more vibrant than mine. Did you made any adjustments in ATI's CCC (Color, contrast, gamm, etc)?

 

nope, could just be because your comparing it to the brightview..btw what can I adjust to make it look better?

 

The radiance is much better all around.

Pictures #1 & #2: The radiance is located on the Envy to the left as seen from the way the backlit keyboard's LEDs are white, not red. The waterfall coloring for some reason is purple with the radiance. The beats photo's colors seem more natural. This could be the result of different calibration settings.

Conclusion: Inconclusive.

Pictures #3, #4, and #5: The Radiance for some reason is now on the right side and not on the left. But the Radiance's brightness is noticeably higher. White levels as a result are much more visible where appropriate.



Final conclusion: Radiance display seems much brighter. White levels are more noticeable where needed. Color calibration seems different. Not to die for, but I'd pay extra for it.

 

yea I took a few pics later so thats why the position changed, the radiance does have a little reddish tint compared to the brightview but people say this goes away over time. If you notice in one of the pics, the whites on the brightview have a yellow-ish tint.

more pics to come later tonight

 

+1

I'm also really curious how the viewing angles compare. That's one thing I hate about the vast majority of laptops on the market these days. Crappy screens with terrible viewing angles.

 

BUMP, put up some more pics. The viewing angles are little better, but not my much. The brighter screen makes it easier to see from angles though. I dont know what you mean by black levels but the blacks are much deeper, the brightview looks a little washed out in comparison

 

Honestly, this is not a good test of the screens.

You need to do an apples-apples comparison. Meaning, calibrate both displays. Then take the pics. The white balance is different on both displays, so which does the camera take into account because both are in the same shot?

Out of the box, the radiance's white balance is too cool -- the brightview is more natural. Also, the radiance saturation too high on the reds/greens. May look impressive (like how they display TV's at the store), but far from realistic.

 

did you upload the first few photos on max resolution 1600x900 on the regular envy and 1366x768 on the beats edition?

 

actually there is only 1 picture with the radiance at 1366x768 and thats the one I uploaded 2 days ago with the waterfall background. And yes, the radiance does have a little reddish tint but its not as bad as it shows in the pics...when taking the pics, my camera was focused on the center between the 2 notebooks..at least thats where the green square was

 

adjusting the colors on both the ATI and the Intel is easy enough.

 

Well, I think those new shots sum it up. Radiance is far lot better than BV, it's the finishing touch for a complete premium feel. But I still think BV isn't "horrible" at all, it's just a very decent screen that gets the job done for 95% of the users (including pro users). It's not essential, but it's an awesome plus.

To put it in perspecive, I think the BV would've been a premium display in 2008. Tomorrow I'll be comparing it to a '08 MBP 15 from a guy at work, I think it's an interesting comparison. What I do know, is that it blows away by much my 2009 dv5's BrightView! (see below). So you can't say HP hasn't been upgrading their displays.

Envy 14 (BrightView Infinity) vs dv5-1235dx (BrightView):

 

i think the colors on the dv5 look more natural in that picture.

 

Awesomeness. The differences are obvious especially for movie-viewing purposes.

Only problem for me is I watch all my stuff on my 24" S-IPS monitor.

 

You really think so? That's an Envy with the BrightView. Imagine the Radiance!!

 

I'd be pretty interested to hear your opinion of the Envy BV vs. a MBP display. I find that the MBP displays tend to put most Windows based laptops to shame (at least at my local Best Buy, which just so happens to not carry any Envy's).

 

Thanks for taking the time to upload the second batch of photos. I think they do a pretty good job of showing how much sharper the radiance screen is than the BV. I have the BV display myself and I don't mind it. It probably has more to do with what you're used to. If I had a laptop with a radiance display then I probably wouldn't be able to go to the BV.

 

Have to say, if I could find an envy 14 with the radiance screen I would buy that right now (my current choices it seems are either the Envy 14 with updated processor to quad and radiance or a MBP 15 with upgrades screen and only a dual i7).

My main machine is a M17xR2 with an RGB led screen and once calibrated is one of the best screens I have found to date.

The macbook pro screens are also great but I would really prefer the quad core and cheaper price tag of a Envy 14 with radiance....

Oh well, I gues at this time I either play the waiting game for another month or 2 and see what comes out once the SB chipset is fixed or just get the macbookpro 15 now.

D.

 

Well, I just compared the Envy's BrightView to a late 2008 Macbook Pro 15, side by side. To my surprise, the difference in color saturation is negligible; MBP15 has better contrast, but really not that much, and it's slightly brighter (again, hardly noticeable). Where there really is a huge, and I mean HUGE margin is on the blacks and whites. The whites on the BV look red-ish and pale, and the blacks look gray-ish compared to the deep blacks on the MBP15. If the blacks on the MBP are 100%, the ones in the BV would be like 85%. All in all, the BV looks slightly washed out in terms of color, but you'd need a keen eye to notice that.

Again, we're talking about a 2½ years old Macbook Pro. Comparing it to a last-gen would make the BV cry in shame, so I won't even bother

 

I compared my returned beats BV to a brand new macbook (not pro) since that is more of a similar comparison and they are basically the same screen. I couldn't tell if one was any better than the other myself.

 

This is more along the lines of what you are looking for, notebookcheck does more in depth reviews on screen brightness and black levels and viewing angles etc.

radiance envy

Review HP Envy 14-1010eg Notebook - Notebookcheck.net Reviews



brightview envy on the beats edition

Review HP Envy 14 Beats Edition Notebook - Notebookcheck.net Reviews


check the display section down the page for each review to get a more in depth take. The loss of that screen is an incredible blow to the entire line.

 

With the Envy radiance display, if you use everest of HWinfo, what model and details about the panel are returned?

 

OH FREAKING WOW. I just got the refurb I ordered off of eBay with the radiance, and compared to the BV sitting next to it... night and day. It is crisper, the colors are better, the brightness is better.... Wow...It's beautiful.

 

Well, after that kind of review, is there any doubt? Kinda makes me wish I had an Envy 14 with radiance screen.....


KJ

 

It's nice man. I'll let you know how it goes with my re-ebaying. It might be a good path for others to take who really want the screen.