Envy 15 2nd Gen Benchmarks

Please comment on : horizontal lines on screen, build (anything new?),
usb 3.0 comments, HD5830 Comments, Camera (still blue tint?), pretty much anything you feel is good to know.
If you post bench and you dont see it here, pm me so I don't miss it.
Thanks!

The Following are taken by submissions from members!
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dx11 Heaven Bench
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user: threeply Envy 15t v2: Core i7-720qm, 4GB DDR-1066, 500GB HD, ATI 5830, 6 Cell+9 Cell Slice, 1080p Matte Display
Default
OC to 550/1050

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VANTAGE - HD5830
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user sleey0 - ENVY 15 - i5-540 4GB - 320GB - Garbage Matte 1080p
P4525
CPU 7771/8000(OCed to 550/1000)
GPU 3971/4600(OCed to 550/1000)
Vantage with OCed 600/1100

Vantage Score for user: alitunay Envy 15t v2: Core i7-720qm, 4GB DDR-1066, 500GB HD, ATI 5830, 1080p
GPU: 4428 (OC to 535/920) (temps stayed below 65C)

Vantage Score for user:drizek - i5 520M
Core/mem 575/1100.
GPU - 5041
CPU - 7573
Total - 5501

Vantage score for user: threeply 555/1111 OC Envy 15t v2: Core i7-720qm, 4GB DDR-1066, 500GB HD, ATI 5830, 6 Cell+9 Cell Slice, 1080p Matte Display

Vantage - User: JJB ENVY 15 l i5 540M l ATI 5830 GPU l 8GB DDR3 1333 l Dual 160 GB SSD l 1920x1080 glossy l Win7 Pro l

P4838 from P4528 with 8.700 driver User: AnXioZ - HP Envy 15: Core i5 520M / ATI HD5830 / 4GB RAM/ 320GB 7200RPM / Glossy 1080p

P6212 User: jjb 540M 8GB DDR3 1333 l Dual 160 GB SSD l 1920x1080 glossy l Win7 Pro

user: Raidenfx i7-720QM oc - 600/1050 stable
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3DMARK 06
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3DMark06: 8621 at 1280x768 (i5-low res screen ) user:johnobts
3DMark06: 7989 at (default?) (i7-720) user: diablonyc2

overclocked:

3DMark06: 10,164 625/1125 User: jjb 540M 8GB DDR3 1333 l Dual 160 GB SSD l 1920x1080 glossy l Win7 Pro



3DMark06: 10113 (600/1100) user: alitunay - 520 4gbram
3DMark06: 9857 at default (i7-720Qm 1080p screen) OC to 600/1050(stable) user: Raidenfx
3DMark06: 9663 at default (Envy 15 v2, i7 720, 6GB, SSDx2, Slice, BDrom ) user: lsramair
3DMark06: 8830 at (default?) (i5-low res screen)overclocked using AMD GPU Tool 515/830 user: johnnobts

3DMark05: 550/1100 JJB ENVY 15 l i5 540M l ATI 5830 GPU l 8GB DDR3 1333 l Dual 160 GB SSD l 1920x1080 glossy l Win7 Pro
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Overclocking Notes
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Using AMD GPU Tool
From what user lsramair has experieced:
The fans will kick in at full speed if gpu temp >71 deg Celsius
The limits are around 540/1000 ish

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Hard Drive
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Crystal Disk: user jjb: ENVY 15 l i5 540M l ATI 5830 GPU l 8GB DDR3 1333 l Dual 160 GB SSD

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TEMPS - by user JJB
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TEMP AND STABILITY TEST OF ENVY 15 i5 540M

Below is screen shot of results. Ran stability test for 35min with CPU at 100% load on both cores and all 4 threads, this equated to all threads boosting to 2.8Ghz from the 2.53 base clock (as designed). As a reminder the 3.06Ghz full turbo speed is only available when load is less than 100% on both cores.

The CPU temps stabilized after about four minutes to average of 75C. Stopped test because temps, fan speed and chassy temps all were stable after 1st 10minutes.

The computer was amazingly cool to the touch the whole time, even the right side over the CPU and heat sink area, barely above room temp of 68F.

Hope this helps those who keep asking if the Envy's temp issues have been resolved. I would say they have

STABILITY TEST GIF.GIF


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BATTERY LIFE
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Quadron writes:
Optimistic Estimate:
Johnnoblts also believes he can get 3 hours with wifi on, bluetooth off, lowest brightness while doing light web surfing with an i5 Envy 15. This means that the maximum battery life is somewhere in the area of 3.5 while idling (30 additional minutes due to wifi adapter being off). This goes up to around 8 hours with the slice.

user Quadron's Battery Tests: (i5 processor)
29 mins = 25% with full brightness, wifi on, BT off, HP Recommended Power Plan = 1.75 hours total
41 mins = 25% wifi on, brightness min, bt off, HP RECOMMENDED Power Plan = 2.75 hours total
51 mins =25% Power saver, brightness min, wifi/bt off, notepad/sticky notes open = 3.30 hours total



User: JJB battery review!

2 hrs 52 min.

Power Saver plan (std), WiFi and bluetooth on, screen at 50%.

Usage: full time web surfing in IE8 with minimumof 5 tabs open (up to 10), Included 30 min of streaming std def music videos in windows media player with 75% speaker volume, downloading 84MB file from strags.com and unziping and installing driver file, watching 5 min. of youtube HD video full screen (quality excellent no lag from throttling).

I opted to go with a spare 6 cell battery after having the slice on my first i7 Envy. I did not like the extra 2.7 lbs of wieght, and it did not feel like a 'portable' device anymore.

The other thing I tested was how the computer would shut down. I set power plan to hibernate at the lowest critical battery level and turned off low battery warnings (actions). It worked better than expected, screen dimmed to balck and power light went off after 20 sec. I then swapped out batteries, turned back on and it went right to a 'continue to resume windows' prompt and then opened up right where I left off on the same web page and all tabs intact and online

Conclusions; For light duty use it looks like I'll easily be able to get 5.5 hrs with just 1 extra 6 cell battery that wieghs only .8 lbs. The computer will maintain its thin and light form factor and the extra battery is very easy to stow in my bag. Add a third 6 cell and your looking at over 8 hrs of real world use and will still be packing around over a pound less wieght than with the slice battery.

The only negative I really see is remembering to charge both batteries when back at a power source.

Battery Life Testing by user: Raidenfx

Battery Life for i7 720QM/8GB DDR3 RAM/320GB HDD/80% backlight/70% headphone volume/Wifi off/Bluetooth off/Mouse track pad off
Street Fighter 4 running at 1080p with medium/high setting 40-61 FPS
The 6 Cell battery last about 70 minutes (from 100% to 8%)
362mb MKV movie (~30 minutes run time) running at 1080p loop with windows media player 12
The 6 Cell battery last about 95 minutes (from 100% to 8%)

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Multiplier Information
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(using other adapters) submitted by user: Raidenfx
Here is what i found out about power throttle.

on 65w original HP travel AC
i7 720QM stuck at 7x multi. AC is still able to charge the battery, ~3-4 hours for a full charge from empty

on 90w original HP dv6t AC
i7 720QM stuck at 11x multi. AC is able to charge the battery, ~2-3 hours for a full charge.

on 120w original HP envy 15 AC
i7 720QM multi unlocked. AC is able to charge the battery, ~2-3 hours for a full charge (depend on the usage.)

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Using battery i7-720 stuck at 7x
Using battery i7-820 stuck at 9x
At this point, HP reps are saying the battery type put into the envy cannot support the power required. (thenextbench.com)

Also, opening up the laptop voids warranty (if they can prove it i guess...) (thenextbench.com)

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GAMES - experience (user: Quadron)
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Crysis: Crysis 1920x1080 set at ALL Medium = 26 FPS on average
Mass Effect 2: 1080p max settings
COD-MW2: 1080p, extra settings off, high textures. 70-90FPS some drops to 40 FPS with flash bombs.
Batman: 1080p Very High at avg of 40FPS

DIRT 2: I played Dirt 2 demo on DX11 at 1080p with very high settings and 4x AA. It got 22 FPS. 26-30 FPS once I took off 4x AA (was on by default). 26-30 FPS was very smooth surprisingly. I'm sure there will be more taxing titles coming in the future, but at least Dirt 2 runs alright.



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Random GPU comparison:
9800m gts: ~ up to 11k OCed
Gts 260m: P7350 8719
ASUS G51VX-A1 (2.15GHz Core 2 Quad Q9000, NVIDIA GTX 260M 1GB) 10,833 3DMark06

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ATI Mobility Radeon HD4830
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3DMark06: 8380 at 1280x768 (Envy 15-1090eg [i7-720, low res screen])
3DMark06: 7841 at 1280x1024 (Envy Beats - From owners lounge)
3DMark06: 7617 at [unspecified] (i7 from owners lounge)
3DMark06: 8221 at 1280x768 (pcmag i7-720)
3DMark06: 8474 at 1280x1024 (i7-720) (550/800) user: me!

overclocked:
3Dmark06: 9450 @ 1280x1024 (i7-720) 640/900 user: lsramair

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I love this laptop! Its powerful and sexy.

 

3Dmark06 from Johnny Boy "the Pastor/Envy 15 Owner" was: 8621 at 1280x768. It was also an i5 processor.

 

No, it shouldn't.

Take a look around and other forums have pure benchmark threads.

This is a great idea and people please contribute!

 

Well, I guess I looked around a bit, and did not notice any of these kind of threads in OWNERS LOUNGE area. I suppose there could be some that I didn't see at first glance. :-0 Maybe it would be a good idea to move this to the general HP lounge so we don't clutter up the owner's lounge area.

ADDED BATTERY ESTIMATE BENCHMARK:

Johnnoblts also believes he can get 3 hours with wifi on, bluetooth off, lowest brightness while doing light web surfing with an i5 Envy 15. This means that the maximum battery life is somewhere in the area of 3.5 while idling (30 additional minutes due to wifi adapter being off). This goes up to around 8 hours with the slice.

 

That battery information is sounding real nice right now.

 

Haha... "Johhny Boy" I was referring to was really johnnobts. I just couldn't remember how to spell his name. lol

 

1st gen envy i7 720qm:

3Dmark06: 9450 (default 1280x1024, free edition)

2nd gen envy i7 720qm:

Gonna break the 10k barrier easily... when they ship the dang thing!

 

That was overlocked... you should make sure to mention make note of that when you add it to the list.

 

You are correct, sorry.

I had the core and memory pushed to the furthest level that was 100% stable. (640/900)

The temp never broke about 70c... because thats when the gpu fan kicks into high gear.

The increases in mem clock provided much more performance than the increases in core clock, since these GPUs are bottlenecked by memory performance.

 

ah wow, I was just trying to search for the upper limit for OCing this card.

and fixed the johny boy thing lol

I mostly wanted to start this thread because I want to see how the HD5830 stacks up against the HD4830!
Kinda suck that the orders were delayed.

 

Hey, what were your default settings for the videocard? Was it 400/800? (power-play off)

 

The default clocks should be 550/800 on the 4830, I believe

 

Weird, yeah thats what i've gathered from online specs, but I assumed HP downclocked it. My default speeds w/o powerplay enabled are 400/800. So I wouldn't be stressing the card at all by setting it to 550/800?

 

You won't be stressing the chip at all. You MAY be stressing the cooling system, so keep an eye on temps if you do that. If you have an Envy, the system should be more than capable of cooling it though.

Here's what AMD itself has to say about the clocks: http://ati.amd.com/products/mobilityradeonhd4800/4860_index.html

Looks like if your cooling system can support it, you could theoretically clock up to 600/900 and be within design spec.

 

Ah ok great. I should rerun my bench using what should be the default clock speeds.

 

While using the ATI Gpu tool the stock clocks we coming up lower than 550/800, but they may have been misreported. I dont remember exactly and that envy is long returned now. All i know is that when the tool showed mine at 640/900 i had a 20%+ boost in performance. Higher core speed made me lower the momory speed to become stable again, and reduced performance. Its all about mem speed on this card to reduce the bandwidth bottleneck.

Forget about temp probs, you will have none. The core will lock up from not having enough voltage (as of now unmodifiable) way before temps get even close to hot. The envy gpu cooling system, as i stated before, will not let the gpu get hot. The fan kicks into such a loud/high rpm at about 71c that it stops the temp right there.

 

i haven't overclocked my envy again since running the tests. haven't really needed to for games or anything. mass efffect 2 runs just fine maxed out. Not sure about 1080p though, i have the crappy low res screen. Might upgrade it though.

 

default speeds for the 5830 are 500/800.

 

Yup. Given the cooling system in the Envy and that the 5830 is made on the same process (40nm) as the 4830, I'm guessing that it could clock the same without too much grief (600/900).

 

that's good to know. I oc'ed it a little and got a 300 point boost, so very good.

 

Nice. Memory OC's should give you the most boost.

 

Mines on the way and will test it as soon as it gets here.

Besides FutureMarks Vantage another good tool to bench the 5830 since its DX11/OpenGL capable is Unigines Heaven 1.0 benchmark. You can get it here, in case the link goofed its http://unigine.com/download/ Thats a really good one for testing tessilation etc. There are some older tests they have you can download as well that test DX9-10.x and opengl.

 

Is it true that memory overclocks are more dangerous than core or shader OCs? If you clock the memory too high, you won't know until you start getting artifacts in games and soon after the GPU dies.

 

Too much heat is the only thing that will cause harm to the video card, but you wont have to worry about that with the Envy unless you are blocking the vent on the right side.

If it artifacts, exit the game and turn it down...

From my many years of overclocking trials, i would say that overclocking the core is more dangerous because it makes more heat than the ram... and that requires you to add voltage to keep stable, meaning more and more heat.

disclaimer: ymmv

 

Agreed.
You simply are not going to fry your video card by the small amount of overclocking that you can do in software.
If you go crazy with voltage settings in the bios then you could fry your card, but even then it is much harder to do than people think.


As an aside on a semi related note:
I had a friend who's cpu fan stopped working and he didn't have any thermal protection turned on in his motherboard's bios(beyond an annoying audible alarm) He decided to call me for help after his games started crashing. I show up and he tells me that the computer had been making a squealing sound for over a week. I take one look in the case and see the cpu fan not spinning. There was a nice burning electronics smell as well. While replacing his heatsink/fan I noticed the pcb on the CPU package had started to pseudo-melt in spots. His computer is still happily running even after that extreme abuse. That was close to 5 years ago.

 

Looks like the performance difference between the 5830 and the 4830 is next to nonexistent.

The I5 at 3 hours of battery surfing web etc is awesome. So we can get 7-8 hours with the battery slice? NOICE!

 

Good idea for a thread. Am I missing something here? People have actually received their refresh i5 envy's? I thought everyone was delayed?

In regards to the 4830 and 5830, there doesn't seem to be much of a difference? Interesting!

 

You will be quite optimistic if you are looking for 3hrs of light web usage for the i5 + 5830. The i5 + IGP would have been able to give you the 3hrs of battery life though.

Read this~> http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?p=5768338#post5768338

 

Really? I'm just going by the original post and someone mentioning 3 hours or so.

Christ you're right. 1080p panel...

 

Someone make sure to post battery life while websurfing at medium brightness with the slice. That is the number I'm looking for. Thanks and +rep to whoever does it.

 

So can this thing max out CoD MW2 @ 1080p? the i7 version if it matters.
I'm guessing so based on the other games mentioned in this thread but never hurts to check..

I'm hoping it can be somewhat future proof in running things like BF:BC2 (Recommended specs = GTX 260..desktopversion..ahh) and SC2 and whatnot..on max or close to it at least haha.

 

I'd also love this as well but at close to lowest brightness (I use that when I'm on battery).

 

It should be able to max out CoD MW2 only just barely. It should run in the 30s.

The 5830 will handle most games fairly well but I wouldn't expect to max out games in the future.

 

Johnnobts said that 3 hrs was possible on light usage once he realized he was getting 2.5 hours because he had bluetooth on and that he was downloading stuff over steam the entire time, which would run the hard drive constantly. I think that 3 hours should be attainable if you're careful/minimal brightness. I think that most people won't use minimal brightness, so most likely most of the time we're looking at 2.5-2.75 hours.

See above.

It might be able to max it out without any AA on. I doubt it will be able to handle it at 1080p + 4x AA. I am probably going to play at 1366x768 with 2x AA on. On that small of a screen I think it would be very difficult to tell the difference between 1080p (NO AA) and 1366x768 with (2x/4x AA ON). We'll see though. 1080p might look better though.

I had a G60VX for a couple weeks here recently. It performs nearly identically to the Envy 15 i7 + 5830. It ran MW2 very smoothly at 1366x768 with 2x AA on all maps. When I turned it up to 4x AA, there were a couple maps where you could notice a hint of lag (i.e. Wasteland).

 

Ah I see, so a mix of high/med probably? 30 is not gonna fly for multiplayer haha.
anyways thanks. I think I'm gonna wait a bit and see if HP releases the rumored Envy 17 and if it's any different tech-wise, and then maybe go ahead and get this..we'll see.

 

The 5830, while a good mobile video card, has very limited memory bandwidth. So, don't expect to run future games at 1080p with high details. Lowering resolution will have a larger than normal impact on performance.

 

I'm pretty sure that AA is a bandwidth intensive process, too. Should theoretically get a decent boost if you don't mind a few jaggies.

 

Yeah, high textures + AA is going to adversely affect the 5830 more so than turning on shaders/extra in-game effects. Something to keep in mind when setting your graphics settings. [Correct me if I am wrong!]

 

Put em all at medium and enjoy

 

Folks with the 2nd gen, can you give us info on the screens? Are the horizontal lines still there? (try looking at a pic with blue skies or something, or if u close enough you'll see they're a lot more visible than on regular screens)

 

I think you're correct

shaders and most extra in-game effects are based on the gpu

about "maxing" stuff out, including AA, do you really need AA on a 15.6 inch screen running at 1080p? The pixel size should be small enough that it should look fine without AA

 

Okay, so I played Mass Effect 2 at 1080p max settings. Everything was perfectly smooth. Mass Effect 2 did not have an option to turn on AA. I would imagine that it wouldn't be able to play it with AA on, but since it doesn't give the option, the Envy 15 (5830 + i5 520) dominates the game, even at 1080p. It felt like 60+ FPS constant. I'll get fraps on here soon enough.

MW2 also played fairly smooth at 1080p, but it did experience some hiccups. I am going to need to lower the resolution or disable some of the extras to get a perfectly smooth experience. I'll get official numbers/screenshots here soon enough.

 

@Quadron
Talk to me in numbers. kthxbai.

And who needs AA at 1920x1080 resolution?

 

Crysis 1920x1080 set at ALL Medium = 26 FPS on average

 

Thank you

 

I probably won't play games at 1920x1080. I'll most likely play them at high at 1280x800 in windowed mode. Higher detail at a lower resolution is better than less detail at a higher resolution. Also, increasing the resolution gives the biggest hit on FPS.

 

Vantage run for me:

P4525
CPU 7771
GPU 3971

Not a bad CPU score for a "mid-range" chip

 

Forgot to add that the gpu score is about 1200 points below a GTX 280M.

Not bad at all

 

3Dmark06, Overclocked, Default settings:

 

06 is dead.

No point in running it with these procs.