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    Envy 15 3rd Gen?

    Discussion in 'HP' started by screes, Aug 5, 2010.

  1. screes

    screes Notebook Consultant

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    I was trying to google search for the next gen Envy 15. Rumors, possible release dates, specs etc etc. But every time i try all i get is stuff from the current or original Envy 15.

    Has anyone heard of anything or know any sites discussing it?
     
  2. Harb67

    Harb67 Notebook Geek

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    No. (10char)
     
  3. Kabobi

    Kabobi Notebook Consultant

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    The Envy15t-1200 is the 3rd gen Envy. It's manual (listing its changes from gen 2) is listed on the HP support website.

    Changes:
    New CPUs: 740, 840, etc.
    5730 GPU option
    and one other thing that I don't remember...

    BUT there is no mention of backlit keyboard OR switchable graphics.
     
  4. Jhnboy

    Jhnboy Notebook Consultant

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    It doesn't have switchable graphics because it uses a HM55 motherboard or something....
     
  5. eight35pm

    eight35pm Notebook Evangelist

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    Does it offer the i5-450m?
     
  6. roberteriksson

    roberteriksson Notebook Enthusiast

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    I'm also very interested in this, will HP continue to support both the E14 and E15 even though they seem pretty similar?

    Had the E15 earlier but had to return it, don't really want to get an E14 due to the smaller screen and resolution but would probably buy a 3rd generation Envy 15 if they arrive.
     
  7. HTWingNut

    HTWingNut Potato

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    Well the Envy 15 has a more powerful GPU and 1920x1080 screen. If HP can manage to squeeze an HD5830 in the E14 and offer a 1080p screen, then there's really be no need. But considering they can't even run the HD 5650 at "normal" GPU speed of 550MHz (it runs at 450MHz instead) I doubt they'll be able to do that.
     
  8. screes

    screes Notebook Consultant

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    Yea the 15 definitely has its place. The E17 is a desktop replacement. The E14 is supposedly replacing the E13 which was their mobility option. The E15 is supposed to be a fusion of the two. Powerful like an E17 but smaller/lighter with more battery life like the E14.
     
  9. TOYSTER17

    TOYSTER17 Notebook Enthusiast

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    I've been hoping some news would come of a 3rd gen envy 15 for weeks now. If they got rid of the those damn keys to the left and added a backlit keyboard, I would jump on that without question. As of now I'm intrigued by the Envy 14, but holding out a few more weeks so they could fix whatever problems the Envy 14 has and see if any news comes of a 3rd gen 15. I definitely need a stronger card than the under clocked one found in the Envy 14. Want to be able and play SC2 on high.
     
  10. dvtran93

    dvtran93 Notebook Evangelist

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    If only they could take the envy 15, add a backlit keyboard, more battery life, and I'm sold.
     
  11. d motorman

    d motorman Notebook Evangelist

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    agreed.

    Its a shame they didnt just update the 13 also, maybe then we could actually break the 5 hour barrier :rolleyes:
     
  12. roberteriksson

    roberteriksson Notebook Enthusiast

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    This. Really want it for SC2 and the hi-res screen.
     
  13. Petdoc1991

    Petdoc1991 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Can you not call and ask them to add extra features for the E15?
     
  14. TOYSTER17

    TOYSTER17 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Try it. See if you get any details on when it's coming. :)
     
  15. nar000

    nar000 Newbie

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    I am 100% decided that I will be buying an Envy 15, I am just holding out until the next generation...or the next generation.

    The Envy 14 has the newer i7 processors, backlit keyboard, and all the reviews say it runs cool and quite. In contrast, the Envy 15 reviews are very mixed and even the positive ones complain about heat and other issues. It is clear that HP has already found a way to solve the heat issue, will they just please hurry up and apply it to the 15!

    My main reasons for not buying the Envy 14 are that I just don't want the optical drive taking up space 100% of the time when I only need it about 1% of the time, and I prefer the larger screen on the 15.

    Also, backlit keyboard is better than no backlit keyboard in everyone's book, so why are you holding out on us HP?

    If anyone at HP is reading this, I (and probably many others) am so ready to buy the Envy 15 as soon as it gets the update it deserves!
     
  16. hahncholo

    hahncholo Notebook Guru

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    Weren't the heat issues with the 15 cleared up with the 2nd gen? And you can replace the 14's optical drive with a hard drive if you want to. As for the backlit keyboard, when do you really need it? When it's bright, you can see the keys. When it's dark, you can still see the keys because the screen lights them. I hope that's not a deciding factor for anyone.

    However, the battery life is. But I hear now that 14 users are getting crappy battery life for some reason, and now that the Radiance display is out of stock, 15's the way to go at the moment.
     
  17. nar000

    nar000 Newbie

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    If the heat issues were taken care of in the 2nd gen that would be great. Can anyone confirm?

    The backlit keyboard is definitely not a deciding factor for me, but it is a very nice thing to have. When working in the dark it is not always possible to see the keys from the light of the screen, especially if the brightness is dimmed to save battery or not disturb others that may be sleeping (not too uncommon). Moreover, since it is already in the 14 and 17, it will probably be in the 15 soon too. If it will, I would be willing to wait another six months.

    Where do you see the option to replace the 14's optical drive with a hard drive?

    If that is available I would definitely consider the 14 as well.
     
  18. hahncholo

    hahncholo Notebook Guru

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    Its not something HP does, but people on this forum have been able to do the mod by themselves. Or so I've heard, I don't actually own an envy yet.

    I do hope that the 15 will be refreshed, it needs all the stuff that the 14 has like switchable gfx, backlit keyboard, better screen angle. I had to order mine now though, I need it for college. But if they release the next gen before my 21 days are up...
     
  19. moviemarketing

    moviemarketing Milk Drinker

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    HP has added the i7 options to the order page again. Doesn't look like there will be any gen 3 release soon.

    the only difference seems to be that if you order an i5 you are limited to 4GB RAM, because the 8GB option uses 2GB sticks in each of the 4 DIMM slots (which are only available on the i7)
     
  20. nar000

    nar000 Newbie

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    Speaking of the RAM in the Envy 15, does anyone know why the envy 15 doesn't offer the option of 1067 or 1333mhz RAM like so many other i7 laptops do?

    And what is the speed of the RAM that is included if you order on the HP website?
     
  21. moviemarketing

    moviemarketing Milk Drinker

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    I believe the only option available is 1333mhz
     
  22. bigben619

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    there are no quick shipping models anymore for envy 15, can that mean anything?
     
  23. nar000

    nar000 Newbie

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    HP site is back to only having the i5 options, no i7.
     
  24. roberteriksson

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    I swear to God I will insta-order if the 3rd gen shows up
     
  25. AlDrak

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    I just need them to put the i7 model back on their site and to add a backlit keyboard and I'm getting it in a second.
     
  26. aterimperator

    aterimperator Notebook Guru

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    Anyone know if the 3rd gen would have switchable graphics?

    This isn't a fundamental limit though, correct? I.e. the i5 version *can* go up to 8 gigs of RAM, HP just doesn't offer two 4gb sticks.
     
  27. Kabobi

    Kabobi Notebook Consultant

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    The Envy 15 gen3 will NOT have switchable graphics. The current manual (Envy 15-1200 CTO) on HP's website makes no mention of it. The only changes seem to be CPU upgrades, and the option for a 5730.
     
  28. Vanko

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    Hey guys I have a couple of questions?

    Can I put a i7-820qm in the envy 15? Since they took that option out and is there any difference in the Motherboard specs? Also does it have 2 ddr slots or 4? :confused:

    Is there going to be a Gen 3 envy with the i7 soon? :confused:
     
  29. aterimperator

    aterimperator Notebook Guru

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    Gen3 doesn't seem to be coming out, the differences between gen 3 and gen 2 are more processor options and an option for a weaker graphics card (and something else? I don't remember)...

    However, the gen 2 already includes i7 processors; they're not currently sold, so perhaps HP ran out of them, but they've done this before (with no i7's available, then having them come back again a few weeks later).

    I say... Unless you need usb 3.0, 16 gigs of ram, or i7 power (then perhaps get envy 17?), go with i5... It's plenty of power for the vast majority of things (and will be for a long while), and it generates less heat and has better battery life (and is cheaper).
     
  30. Vanko

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    I really like the i7 and I was actually hoping to put 16gb ram on it even though its an overkill. Anyway 2 or 4 ram slots on the E15 that's on the hp site now and does it have usb 3.0?I was also looking at the E17 but it seems too big for me, I had a dv9700 and it was too big to move around with me. If I am going to go all out with this notebook I will go all out like I did with my dv6700 and I still use it and love it, its been 3 years and I can still brag about it, well except the 8400gs. :p
     
  31. aterimperator

    aterimperator Notebook Guru

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    You can only get USB 3.0 with the i7. The i5 model has 2 DIMM slots thus making the ram cap 8 gigs if i understand correctly.

    Well... the i7 envy 15 will be small enough to carry around with you, but the battery life will be fairly sad without a slice battery.
     
  32. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    and then we have the sad panda effect
     
  33. d motorman

    d motorman Notebook Evangelist

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    I really wish more pc laptop makers would think more about battery on non ulv/full fledged laptops
     
  34. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    My best guess is that the battery have a high cost of production. compared to others ''non essentials'' things.

    I really love how much battery the macs have, and have been really thinking about getting one, instead of the envy, yes just because of the battery.
     
  35. d motorman

    d motorman Notebook Evangelist

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    while I'd never buy one, I definitely envy the battery life macbooks get.
     
  36. Vanko

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    Yea the battery is also very important, but most people just use their battery for weight and and a stand. Only a limited number of people like us REALLY use the battery and I cant even say that I use it that much, my notebook is either on the desk in my car (charging) and in my office. So battery is not that important for me anyway and probably for most people, that's why HP does not bother with the battery that much and 3h is sufficient for me.
     
  37. Vanko

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    So can I take out the i5 and put in a i7 (820qm)?
     
  38. moviemarketing

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    I believe the motherboard used for the i5 models is different from the mobo for the i7 models, since the i5 motherboard only has 2 DIMMs and the i7 motherboard has 4 DIMMs. If this is the case, in order to upgrade yourself you would need to order a replacement Envy 15 motherboard with i7.