Envy 15 OTB vs Tweaked Install Comparison

My wife just received her Envy 15 today from FedEx, same specs as mine, and I will take some time this weekend to run some benchmarks, before and after reformatting the drive, doing a fresh install of windows and tweaking some of the settings, including unRaiding the SSD, in order to gauge the level of improvement from these actions.


BIOS Version F.1A
System BIOS Date 03/08/10
Video BIOS Date 02/24/10

Installed Video Drivers:
atiumd64 8.14.10.0708
atidxx64 8.17.10.0240
atidxx64 8.17.10.0240
atiumdag 8.14.10.0708 - ATI Catalyst 9.11
atidxx32 8.17.10.0240
atidxx32 8.17.10.0240
atiumdva 8.14.10.0239
atiumd6a 8.14.10.0239
atitmm64 6.14.11.22



In addition to the usual benchmarks I will run some tests that benchmark applications we will use frequently, such as Photoshop, etc.

OTB Benchmarks: These benchmarks are run on the out-of-the-box Envy, with HP crapware, Windows Home Premium 64-bit and the X-18 G2 drives in Raid0

Boot/Shutdown Times:
Startup (from off state, power button activated until Windows logon screen with no spinning cursor): 32.3 sec
Logon (from Windows logon screen to desktop with no spinning cursor): 8.4 sec
Shutdown (from desktop with no applications running to power LED off): 8.6 sec

Disk Benchmarks
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CrystalDiskMark 3.0 x64 (C) 2007-2010 hiyohiyo
Crystal Dew World : Crystal Dew World
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* MB/s = 1,000,000 byte/s [SATA/300 = 300,000,000 byte/s]

Sequential Read : 522.459 MB/s
Sequential Write : 218.955 MB/s
Random Read 512KB : 257.704 MB/s
Random Write 512KB : 170.739 MB/s
Random Read 4KB (QD=1) : 10.747 MB/s [ 2623.8 IOPS]
Random Write 4KB (QD=1) : 53.788 MB/s [ 13131.7 IOPS]
Random Read 4KB (QD=32) : 250.638 MB/s [ 61190.9 IOPS]
Random Write 4KB (QD=32) : 145.501 MB/s [ 35522.7 IOPS]

Test : 1000 MB [C: 18.7% (53.0/282.9 GB)] (x5)
Date : 2010/04/30 15:20:52
OS : Windows 7 Home Premium Edition [6.1 Build 7600] (x64)
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comments: Sequential read is faster than my machine was OTB (469 MB/s); however, the 4K Random Read QD=1 is about the same, much, much slower than it should be, in fact slower than the 4k Random write speed (at QD=1).

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(2) Ran the crystaldiskmark again after disabling HP drive protection (if I understand correctly, this is not helpful for SSD)
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CrystalDiskMark 3.0 x64 (C) 2007-2010 hiyohiyo
Crystal Dew World : http://crystalmark.info/
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* MB/s = 1,000,000 byte/s [SATA/300 = 300,000,000 byte/s]

Sequential Read : 514.681 MB/s
Sequential Write : 220.451 MB/s
Random Read 512KB : 263.836 MB/s
Random Write 512KB : 179.628 MB/s
Random Read 4KB (QD=1) : 11.106 MB/s [ 2711.4 IOPS]
Random Write 4KB (QD=1) : 58.845 MB/s [ 14366.5 IOPS]
Random Read 4KB (QD=32) : 244.761 MB/s [ 59756.1 IOPS]
Random Write 4KB (QD=32) : 139.601 MB/s [ 34082.2 IOPS]

Test : 1000 MB [C: 18.9% (53.4/282.9 GB)] (x5)
Date : 2010/04/30 16:26:10
OS : Windows 7 Home Premium Edition [6.1 Build 7600] (x64)
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comments: no discernable difference
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3DMark06 Tests (Free Trial Version - 1280x1024 resolution):
< Main Test Results >

3DMark Score 8,123.0 3DMarks
SM2.0 Score 3,078.0
HDR/SM3.0 Score 3,390.0
CPU Score 3,338.0
Game Score 0.0 points

< SM2.0 Graphics Tests >

GT1 - Return To Proxycon 23.8 FPS
GT2 - Firefly Forest 27.5 FPS

< CPU Tests >

CPU1 - Red Valley 1.1 FPS
CPU2 - Red Valley 1.6 FPS

< HDR/SM3.0 Graphics Tests >

HDR1 - Canyon Flight 32.8 FPS
HDR2 - Deep Freeze 35.0 FPS



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PCMark05 Tests:

<<< Result >>>
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< Main Test Results >

PCMark 12,003.0 PCMarks
CPU 8,073.0
Memory 9,776.0
Graphics 8,160.0
HDD 41,370.0

< System Test Suite >

HDD - XP Startup 136,771,456.0 B/s
Physics and 3D 269.3 FPS
Transparent Windows 747.0 windows/s
3D - Pixel Shader 667.5 FPS
Web Page Rendering 3.5 pages/s
File Decryption 84,368,240.0 B/s
Graphics Memory - 64 lines 1,287.4 FPS
HDD - General Usage 75,206,024.0 B/s
Audio Compression 3,715,039.2 B/s
Video Encoding 650,456.4 B/s
Text edit 153.0 pages/s
Image Decompression 31,961,376.2 pixels/s
File Compression 8,525,628.0 B/s
File Encryption 51,300,352.0 B/s
HDD - Virus Scan 443,311,168.0 B/s
Memory Latency - Random 16 MB 19,840,509.4 accesses/s

< CPU Test Suite >

File Compression 13,220,590.0 B/s
File Decompression 197,597,792.0 B/s
File Encryption 84,564,144.0 B/s
File Decryption 84,334,144.0 B/s
Image Decompression 41,711,090.1 pixels/s
Audio Compression 4,381,269.5 B/s
File Compression 12,075,327.0 B/s
File Encryption 76,738,720.0 B/s
File Decompression 126,134,352.0 B/s
File Decryption 53,022,324.0 B/s
Audio Decompression 2,269,083.0 B/s
Image Decompression 26,558,982.8 pixels/s

< Memory Test Suite >

Memory Read - 16 MB 13,216,181,248.0 B/s
Memory Read - 8 MB 26,014,203,904.0 B/s
Memory Read - 192 KB 23,178,631,168.0 B/s
Memory Read - 4 KB 47,147,479,040.0 B/s
Memory Write - 16 MB 10,684,382,208.0 B/s
Memory Write - 8 MB 10,663,967,744.0 B/s
Memory Write - 192 KB 28,935,456,768.0 B/s
Memory Write - 4 KB 47,304,990,720.0 B/s
Memory Copy - 16 MB 11,012,491,264.0 B/s
Memory Copy - 8 MB 14,761,476,096.0 B/s
Memory Copy - 192 KB 22,616,330,240.0 B/s
Memory Copy - 4 KB 47,376,969,728.0 B/s
Memory Latency - Random 16 MB 19,840,509.4 accesses/s
Memory Latency - Random 8 MB 52,908,023.8 accesses/s
Memory Latency - Random 192 KB 308,007,598.9 accesses/s
Memory Latency - Random 4 KB 765,371,887.2 accesses/s

< Graphics Test Suite >

Transparent Windows 791.1 windows/s
Graphics Memory - 64 lines 1,309.5 FPS
Graphics Memory - 128 lines 985.4 FPS
WMV Video Playback 35.8 FPS
3D - Fill Rate Multi-Texturing 17,308,406,250.0 texels/s
3D - Polygon Throughput Multiple 64,340,324.4 triangles/s
3D - Pixel Shader 682.0 FPS
3D - Vertex Shader 101,650,489.8 vertices/s

< HDD Test Suite >

HDD - XP Startup 155,327,952.0 B/s
HDD - Application Loading 77,638,688.0 B/s
HDD - General Usage 65,815,172.0 B/s
HDD - Virus Scan 352,143,104.0 B/s
HDD - File Write 226,174,496.0 B/s

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::: Generated by Mark Reader 1.0.0 on 4/30/2010 6:16:43 PM :::
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Everest Benchmarks:

Sensor Properties:
Sensor Type CPU, ACPI
GPU Sensor Type Diode (ATI-Diode)

Temperatures (no laptop cooler engaged):
CPU 50 °C (122 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #1 50 °C (122 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #2 46 °C (115 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #3 51 °C (124 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #4 46 °C (115 °F)
GPU Diode (DispIO) 46 °C (115 °F)
GPU Diode (MemIO) 42 °C (108 °F)
GPU Diode (Shader) 44 °C (111 °F)

Cooling Fans:
GPU 30%


Processes Running
AESTSr64.exe C:\Windows\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\stwrt64.inf_amd64_neutral_d15ed671de43d681\AESTSr64.exe 64-bit 3388 KB 1 KB
ALSMON.exe C:\Program Files\LightSensorApp\ALSMON.exe 64-bit 11640 KB 5 KB
atieclxx.exe C:\Windows\system32\atieclxx.exe 64-bit 6728 KB 3 KB
atiesrxx.exe C:\Windows\system32\atiesrxx.exe 64-bit 4836 KB 2 KB
audiodg.exe 64-bit 16528 KB 16 KB
BTTray.exe C:\Program Files\WIDCOMM\Bluetooth Software\BTTray.exe 64-bit 11704 KB 7 KB
btwdins.exe C:\Program Files\WIDCOMM\Bluetooth Software\btwdins.exe 64-bit 6128 KB 2 KB
CCC.exe C:\Program Files (x86)\ATI Technologies\ATI.ACE\Core-Static\CCC.exe 64-bit 2196 KB 64 KB
ccSvcHst.exe C:\Program Files (x86)\Norton Internet Security\Engine\17.0.0.136\ccSvcHst.exe 32-bit 12836 KB 5 KB
CLMLSvc.exe c:\Program Files (x86)\Hewlett-Packard\TouchSmart\Media\Kernel\CLML\CLMLSvc.exe 32-bit 16792 KB 24 KB
Com4QLBEx.exe C:\Program Files (x86)\Hewlett-Packard\HP Quick Launch Buttons\Com4QLBEx.exe 32-bit 4980 KB 1 KB
CorelIOMonitor.exe C:\Program Files (x86)\Corel\Corel Paint Shop Pro Photo X2\CorelIOMonitor.exe 32-bit 6552 KB 2 KB
csrss.exe C:\Windows\system32\csrss.exe 64-bit 4640 KB 2 KB
csrss.exe C:\Windows\system32\csrss.exe 64-bit 7928 KB 3 KB
doccardsvc.exe C:\Program Files (x86)\Hewlett-Packard\HP Envy Document Card Utilities\doccardsvc.exe 32-bit 3312 KB 1 KB
DVMExportService.exe C:\QW.SYS\config\DVMExportService.exe 32-bit 4708 KB 1 KB
dwm.exe C:\Windows\system32\Dwm.exe 64-bit 45960 KB 34 KB
everest.exe C:\Program Files (x86)\Lavalys\EVEREST Ultimate Edition\everest.exe 32-bit 37156 KB 29 KB
EXCEL.EXE C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office14\EXCEL.EXE 64-bit 35908 KB 20 KB
explorer.exe C:\Windows\Explorer.EXE 64-bit 66580 KB 37 KB
GoogleCrashHandler.exe C:\Users\Envy\AppData\Local\Google\Update\1.2.183.23\GoogleCrashHandler.exe 32-bit 1588 KB 2 KB
hpdocstart.exe C:\Program Files (x86)\Hewlett-Packard\HP Envy Document Card Utilities\hpdocstart.exe 32-bit 3600 KB 1 KB
HPHC_Service.exe C:\Program Files (x86)\Hewlett-Packard\HP Health Check\hphc_service.exe 64-bit 14952 KB 23 KB
HpqToaster.exe C:\Program Files (x86)\Hewlett-Packard\Shared\hpqToaster.exe 32-bit 8340 KB 2 KB
hpqWmiEx.exe C:\Program Files (x86)\Hewlett-Packard\Shared\hpqwmiex.exe 32-bit 6076 KB 2 KB
hpservice.exe C:\Windows\system32\Hpservice.exe 64-bit 5208 KB 2 KB
HPToneCtl.exe C:\Program Files\Hewlett-Packard\HPToneControl\HPToneCtl.exe 64-bit 9008 KB 4 KB
HPWAMain.exe C:\Program Files (x86)\Hewlett-Packard\HP Wireless Assistant\HPWAMain.exe 64-bit 33108 KB 34 KB
hpwuschd2.exe C:\Program Files (x86)\HP\HP Software Update\hpwuschd2.exe 32-bit 3688 KB 1 KB
InstStub.exe C:\Program Files (x86)\NortonInstaller\{0C55C096-0F1D-4F28-AAA2-85EF591126E7}\NIS\A5E82D02\17.0.0.136\InstStub.exe 32-bit 24984 KB 14 KB
jusched.exe C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin\jusched.exe 64-bit 5292 KB 2 KB
jusched.exe C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre6\bin\jusched.exe 32-bit 4444 KB 1 KB
lsass.exe C:\Windows\system32\lsass.exe 64-bit 11736 KB 4 KB
lsm.exe C:\Windows\system32\lsm.exe 64-bit 4720 KB 3 KB
MOM.exe C:\Program Files (x86)\ATI Technologies\ATI.ACE\Core-Static\MOM.exe 64-bit 3904 KB 39 KB
nusb3mon.exe C:\Program Files (x86)\NEC Electronics\USB 3.0 Host Controller Driver\Application\nusb3mon.exe 32-bit 5528 KB 2 KB
OfficeSAS.exe C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office14\OfficeSAS\OfficeSAS.exe 64-bit 6084 KB 2 KB
OfficeSASScheduler.exe C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office14\OfficeSAS\officeSASscheduler.exe 64-bit 9540 KB 3 KB
OSPPSVC.EXE C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\OfficeSoftwareProtectionPlatform\OSPPSVC.EXE 64-bit 11076 KB 3 KB
PsiService_2.exe C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Protexis\License Service\PsiService_2.exe 32-bit 3664 KB 1 KB
QLBCtrl.exe C:\Program Files (x86)\Hewlett-Packard\HP Quick Launch Buttons\QLBCtrl.exe 32-bit 9516 KB 2 KB
qttask.exe C:\Program Files (x86)\QuickTime\qttask.exe 32-bit 4380 KB 1 KB
scrybe.exe C:\Program Files (x86)\Scrybe\scrybe.exe 32-bit 16588 KB 6 KB
ScrybeUpdater.exe C:\Program Files (x86)\Scrybe\Service\ScrybeUpdater.exe 32-bit 10028 KB 3 KB
SearchIndexer.exe C:\Windows\system32\SearchIndexer.exe 64-bit 17856 KB 31 KB
services.exe C:\Windows\system32\services.exe 64-bit 10444 KB 6 KB
SmartMenu.exe C:\Program Files\Hewlett-Packard\HP MediaSmart\SmartMenu.exe 64-bit 14852 KB 7 KB
smss.exe 64-bit 1324 KB 0 KB
splwow64.exe C:\Windows\splwow64.exe 64-bit 5364 KB 2 KB
spoolsv.exe C:\Windows\System32\spoolsv.exe 64-bit 11996 KB 7 KB
sppsvc.exe C:\Windows\system32\sppsvc.exe 64-bit 11088 KB 5 KB
stacsv64.exe C:\Windows\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\stwrt64.inf_amd64_neutral_d15ed671de43d681\STacSV64.exe 64-bit 9032 KB 13 KB
sttray64.exe C:\Program Files\IDT\WDM\sttray64.exe 64-bit 16768 KB 7 KB
svchost.exe C:\Windows\System32\svchost.exe 64-bit 22612 KB 11 KB
svchost.exe C:\Windows\system32\svchost.exe 64-bit 17324 KB 10 KB
svchost.exe C:\Windows\system32\svchost.exe 64-bit 44364 KB 28 KB
svchost.exe C:\Windows\system32\svchost.exe 64-bit 17460 KB 14 KB
svchost.exe C:\Windows\system32\svchost.exe 64-bit 16212 KB 14 KB
svchost.exe C:\Windows\system32\svchost.exe 64-bit 20164 KB 10 KB
svchost.exe C:\Windows\system32\svchost.exe 64-bit 5772 KB 2 KB
svchost.exe C:\Windows\System32\svchost.exe 64-bit 14856 KB 12 KB
svchost.exe C:\Windows\System32\svchost.exe 64-bit 29852 KB 67 KB
svchost.exe C:\Windows\system32\svchost.exe 64-bit 10592 KB 5 KB
svchost.exe C:\Windows\system32\svchost.exe 64-bit 10064 KB 6 KB
svchost.exe C:\Windows\System32\svchost.exe 64-bit 24276 KB 25 KB
SynTPEnh.exe C:\Program Files\Synaptics\SynTP\SynTPEnh.exe 64-bit 14360 KB 9 KB
SynTPHelper.exe C:\Program Files\Synaptics\SynTP\SynTPHelper.exe 64-bit 4252 KB 2 KB
System Idle Process 24 KB 0 KB
System 64-bit 1060 KB 0 KB
taskeng.exe C:\Windows\system32\taskeng.exe 64-bit 6720 KB 3 KB
taskhost.exe C:\Windows\system32\taskhost.exe 64-bit 9584 KB 8 KB
VistaSrv.exe C:\Program Files (x86)\Stardock\MyColors\VistaSrv.exe 64-bit 4864 KB 2 KB
wbvista.exe C:\Program Files (x86)\Stardock\MyColors\WBVista.exe 64-bit 5552 KB 3 KB
wininit.exe C:\Windows\system32\wininit.exe 64-bit 5212 KB 2 KB
winlogon.exe C:\Windows\system32\winlogon.exe 64-bit 7868 KB 3 KB
WmiPrvSE.exe C:\Windows\system32\wbem\wmiprvse.exe 32-bit 8920 KB 4 KB
WmiPrvSE.exe C:\Windows\system32\wbem\wmiprvse.exe 32-bit 7664 KB 3 KB
WmiPrvSE.exe C:\Windows\sysWOW64\wbem\wmiprvse.exe 64-bit 7636 KB 3 KB
wmpnetwk.exe C:\Program Files\Windows Media Player\wmpnetwk.exe 64-bit 10852 KB 11 KB
WUDFHost.exe C:\Windows\system32\WUDFHost.exe 64-bit 6304 KB 2 KB
WUDFHost.exe C:\Windows\system32\WUDFHost.exe 32-bit 6260 KB 2 KB


Memory Read Test:

CPU CPU Clock Motherboard Chipset Memory CL-RCD-RP-RAS Read Speed
Core i7 820QM 1200 MHz [ TRIAL VERSION ] PM55 Dual DDR3-1333 9-9-9-24 CR2 8279 MB/s

Memory Write Test:

CPU CPU Clock Motherboard Chipset Memory CL-RCD-RP-RAS Write Speed
Core i7 820QM 1200 MHz [ TRIAL VERSION ] PM55 Dual DDR3-1333 9-9-9-24 CR2 6952 MB/s

Memory Copy Test:
CPU CPU Clock Motherboard Chipset Memory CL-RCD-RP-RAS Copy Speed
Core i7 820QM 1200 MHz [ TRIAL VERSION ] PM55 Dual DDR3-1333 9-9-9-24 CR2 9859 MB/s

Memory Latency Test:
CPU CPU Clock Motherboard Chipset Memory CL-RCD-RP-RAS Latency
Core i7 820QM 1200 MHz [ TRIAL VERSION ] PM55 Dual DDR3-1333 9-9-9-24 CR2 74.1 ns

CPU Queen Test
CPU CPU Clock Motherboard Chipset Memory CL-RCD-RP-RAS Score
4x Core i7 820QM HT 1200 MHz [ TRIAL VERSION ] PM55 Dual DDR3-1333 9-9-9-24 CR2 13696

CPU PhotoWorxx Test
CPU CPU Clock Motherboard Chipset Memory CL-RCD-RP-RAS Score
4x Core i7 820QM HT 1200 MHz [ TRIAL VERSION ] PM55 Dual DDR3-1333 9-9-9-24 CR2 16863


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FRAPS Benchmarks (all settings at max detail, 1920x1080p resolution):

Crysis Warhead
Frames Time (ms) Min Max Avg
247 13771 15 22 17.936


Dragon Age Origins
Frames Time (ms) Min Max Avg
13526 60000 21 311 225.433

 

damn you got about $7k worth of Envies. congrats

edit: btw i am looking forward to your comparison, thanks.

 

There aren't really any meaningful system level 'tweaks' for win7. You can deinstall/disable some of the default services that come with win7 and you can certainly delete or upgrade any pre-installed software that comes from the manufacturer.

You can also do quite a bit in terms of personalization of the GUI and desktop. These aren't tweaks but part of the greatly expanded list of openly configurable items that are available to the Win7 user. There are loads of assistant programs that work with personalization.

But the days of tweaking machines for performance/efficiency/stability as people used to do with XP, are gone.

Some old XP tweaks do nothing, some will hurt/slow down a win7 machine.

 

I agree, and I appreciate any advice or guidance here.

Perhaps "tweaking" isn't the correct term. I just want to know whether any of my commonly used applications or startup/shutdown time will improve if I do a clean install of Windows, reformat the SSD and unRaid the drives, or follow any other advice regarding disabling certain Windows services that might drag the performance. Or whether perhaps there is not much point to any of that.

 

why unraid the drives? raid is the main advantage for having 2x 1.8 inch ssd in there right?

 

No... The main advantage of having two 1.8" drives is to.... support two 1.8" drives, y'know, instead of one.

Unraiding them and having latest Intel RST (or MS) drivers will allow TRIM to pass thru to the drives allowing them to perform much more efficiently and resist performance degradation due to dirty data blocks, etc. (google TRIM, SSD's...)

 

I don't think running CDM before / after driver changes and clean install is going to show much. However, the other general system benchmarks after clean install may prove useful.

I have a 'lite' Win7Pro install I've been putting together (see MSFN Forums -> vLite) that can boot windows 7 on my desktop with Intel 80GB G2 SSD from OS Select to Usable Desktop in 9.5 seconds. I hope to run this on the Envy and see the results. If the Envy can pull off 9-10 seconds, then it would be good evidence that the low 4K random read performance doesn't impact real world use much. My lite install also uses only 3-4GB instead of ~12.2GB a normal Win7 clean install uses, great for SSD users.

For a frame of reference on the CDM 4K random speed, here's what my single Intel 80GB G2 disk gets in my desktop (ICH9 southbridge, X48 motherboard)

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CrystalDiskMark 3.0 x64 (C) 2007-2010 hiyohiyo
Crystal Dew World : Crystal Dew World
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* MB/s = 1,000,000 byte/s [SATA/300 = 300,000,000 byte/s]

Sequential Read : 267.870 MB/s
Sequential Write : 88.750 MB/s
Random Read 512KB : 204.166 MB/s
Random Write 512KB : 89.799 MB/s
Random Read 4KB (QD=1) : 24.071 MB/s [ 5876.7 IOPS]
Random Write 4KB (QD=1) : 72.006 MB/s [ 17579.5 IOPS]
Random Read 4KB (QD=32) : 163.576 MB/s [ 39935.5 IOPS]
Random Write 4KB (QD=32) : 85.843 MB/s [ 20957.7 IOPS]

Test : 500 MB [C: 16.7% (12.4/74.4 GB)] (x5)
Date : 2010/04/30 21:28:10
OS : Windows 7 [6.1 Build 7600] (x64)

 

Fascinating link, many thanks! I would like to try one of the lite builds. there are several variations mentioned in the forum you linked to. Which is the one you have installed?

 

We experienced our first system crash while in the process of transferring 21GB of files via USB 3.0 cable from an external HDD sitting in a SIIG external dock to the Documents folder in the C: drive.

Although the problem event is called a "bluescreen," the screen simply went black for about 30 sec and then reboot automatically.

Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: BlueScreen
OS Version: 6.1.7600.2.0.0.768.3
Locale ID: 1033

Additional information about the problem:
BCCode: 101
BCP1: 0000000000000019
BCP2: 0000000000000000
BCP3: FFFFF88003964180
BCP4: 0000000000000002
OS Version: 6_1_7600
Service Pack: 0_0
Product: 768_1

Files that help describe the problem:
C:\Windows\Minidump\050410-14149-01.dmp
C:\Users\Envy\AppData\Local\Temp\WER-71510-0.sysdata.xml

Read our privacy statement online:
Windows 7 Privacy Statement - Microsoft Windows

If the online privacy statement is not available, please read our privacy statement offline:
C:\Windows\system32\en-US\erofflps.txt

 

I think there may be a Microsoft patch for this on WU but not absolutely sure. Also look for the Envy Windows 7 Essential updates on the HP driver site.

There seems to be some bugs with the USB.

 

I would say dead0, or liquid, but dead0's has become more extreme and more then I'd like to do. (WinSxS stuff)

My personal iteration is based on one of dead0's older ones.

dead0's current may work if you go all the way (make sure you follow all instructions 100%) and include the required updates, but I have not gone there.

liquids may be a bit safer. I am trying to get Media Center included again with the old dead0 setup I'm using

I will probably be willing to share mine after/if I get mine working/satisfied.

 

Today we got a "black screen" on this machine. In other words, the screen went black and the only way to get control of the laptop again was via hard reset. Having gone through an experience with my first Envy 15 where I was getting these "black screens" 10-15 times per day, it is not pleasant to see this happening again with the third unit. I will report back if this happens again during the 21 day period.

I downloaded whocrashed.exe from this page
http://www.resplendence.com/download/whocrashedSetup.exe

The analysis is only able to read information regarding the actual "blue" screen crash (the screen went black in the middle of transferring some files via USB 3.0 external drive, then the system automatically rebooted itself) from yesterday. There is no mini-dump log file referencing the black screen problem event which occurred today.

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On Tue 5/4/2010 5:01:57 PM your computer crashed
This was likely caused by the following module: ntoskrnl.exe
Bugcheck code: 0x101 (0x19, 0x0, 0xFFFFF88003964180, 0x2)
Error: CLOCK_WATCHDOG_TIMEOUT
Dump file: C:\Windows\Minidump\050410-14149-01.dmp
file path: C:\Windows\system32\ntoskrnl.exe
product: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
company: Microsoft Corporation
description: NT Kernel & System
The crash took place in a standard Microsoft module. Your system configuration may be incorrect, possibly the culprit is in another driver on your system which cannot be identified at this time.

 

A few hours later I experienced another graphics card "black screen" event - this time while playing a 3D game. I could still hear the sound track, but there was no way to exit the black screen other than hard reset.

I suspected perhaps it had to do with installing the AMD GPU Clock Tool and testing the over clocking settings yesterday; however, when I opened the tool to check the current clock settings they were already at the default setting of 499.97 Engine Clock and 799.87 Memory Clock.

I will try updating the factory installed GPU driver to the latest one specified on the Envy 15 drivers thread.

 

Hello Moviemarketing
May I ask what you did to fix your crashing problems ?
I bought an envy 15-1109tx in march 2010 and it has been crashing like yours 3 to 4 times a day ever since. The laptop went back to HP for repair under waranty ( I am not a computer wizz ) and it came back 3 weeks later from HP with exactly the same problems after they said they changed the HDD. Very frustrating when spending almost 2500 gbp (3000 usd) on a laptop!

here is my spec :
Product nbr : WJ819PA#ABU
Microprocessor : Intel Core i7 CPU [email protected]
Memory : 8GB ( 4X2GB)
Graphics : ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5830 Series
System Board : 1522 36.34
BIOS: F.26
HDD: WDC WD6400BEVT-60AORTO 600GB

OS : Windows 7 Professional 64bit

Installed Programs:
Microsoft Office 2005 Small Business with SQL server 2005 Express
Adobe CS4
Hyperion Reporting Studio 9.0
Skype

and all the HP crap that came with the laptop !!

 

Honestly I think engineering may have done a hardware level tweak with the most recent Envy 15s to solve the crash problem. Mine will do 800 core stable... I run 750 core always on the GPU and no black screns. I only get the black screens when I go to 805 core and 3dmark 06

It will actually run furmark at 840 core.

This tells me there was a voltage tweak or a process/stepping tweak on the cores to improve stability. That or I got REALLY lucky. I have never seen a 50-60% overclock on the GPU core in any video card I have owned. Especially a notebook. that is a lot of headroom...

 

With respect to my first Envy that was crashing to black screen frequently, I returned it for full refund within the 21-day period. I then ordered a second unit with the same specs which has had no black screens or blue screens at all.

The third unit (my wife's) has crashed to black screen about 3 or 4 times since we received it from HP and experienced one bluescreen crashes during USB 3.0 file transfer. We are planning to return this one before the 21-day period expires.

 

OK, we just had a second bluescreen while in the middle of trying to correct the Synaptics control panel settings.

The WhoCrashed analysis of the minidump file indicates it is exactly the same error that occured a few days ago

CLOCK_WATCHDOG_TIMEOUT

If I understand correctly this clock watchdog timeout error has something to do with the cores being out of sync?

Any suggestions or advice?

On Fri 5/7/2010 5:45:09 AM your computer crashed
This was likely caused by the following module: ntoskrnl.exe
Bugcheck code: 0x101 (0x19, 0x0, 0xFFFFF880009B2180, 0x4)
Error: CLOCK_WATCHDOG_TIMEOUT
Dump file: C:\Windows\Minidump\050710-23821-01.dmp
file path: C:\Windows\system32\ntoskrnl.exe
product: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
company: Microsoft Corporation
description: NT Kernel & System
The crash took place in a standard Microsoft module. Your system configuration may be incorrect, possibly the culprit is in another driver on your system which cannot be identified at this time.



On Tue 5/4/2010 5:01:57 PM your computer crashed
This was likely caused by the following module: ntoskrnl.exe
Bugcheck code: 0x101 (0x19, 0x0, 0xFFFFF88003964180, 0x2)
Error: CLOCK_WATCHDOG_TIMEOUT
Dump file: C:\Windows\Minidump\050410-14149-01.dmp
file path: C:\Windows\system32\ntoskrnl.exe
product: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
company: Microsoft Corporation
description: NT Kernel & System
The crash took place in a standard Microsoft module. Your system configuration may be incorrect, possibly the culprit is in another driver on your system which cannot be identified at this time.

 

Thank you for your explanations.
Here are my current video settings:
Primary Adapter
Graphics Card Manufacturer Powered by ATI
Graphics Chipset ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5830 Series
Device ID 68A1
Vendor 1002

Subsystem ID 1522
Subsystem Vendor ID 103C

Graphics Bus Capability PCI Express 2.0
Maximum Bus Setting PCI Express 2.0 x8

BIOS Version 012.014.000.007
BIOS Part Number BR036968.001
BIOS Date 2010/03/25

Memory Size 1024 MB
Memory Type DDR3

Core Clock in MHz 500 MHz
Memory Clock in MHz 800 MHz
Total Memory Bandwidth in GByte/s 25.6 GByte/s


should I change the core / memory clocks settings ?
I am not sure what the relation should be between the 2..
Thanks again for your help . like I said, i am far away from being a computer guru ..

 

No, you should not do anything like that.

If your machine experiences black screen or blue screen or crashes at stock settings you should

1.) try a clean install with all fresh drivers (see forum for drivers thread) 9-10 driver installations are necessary. many components

2.) if you still have crashes, you need to RMA the machine for service or refund/replacement.



I can say that I did experience a black screen on my machine when I was still trrying to use the factory HP windows 7 install. I tried to update the drivers to 10.4 mobility from AMD and I got a black screen at the end of driver install. From there I was not able to get drivers properly installed and I ended up deleting all partitions on the disk and formatting and clean install windows 7 professional. no more problems here, but then again I did not really have a problem to begin with, just bad luck with the order I used on driver updates with the CRAPPY factory install.