Envy 17?

Any news on the Envy 17?

 

so what happened to this thing?

 

Was it ever a thing enough to be news? I haven't seen anything other than rumors on forums

 

Where are you Envy 17...with your i7-620m and Mob. HD5870?

 

Phinagle come to join the fun, eh? lol

I would be more interested in the Envy 14

 

if HP releases an Envy 17, they'll have a customer. Despite my general aversion to HP because of shoddy hardware in the past.

 

I am everywhere...and I never forget.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=414264&page=122

 

Seconded. Unfortunately, it only went as far as softpaq and I thought it would see the light of CES.

 

I came on these boards to make a post on this and here I see it.

If they want to copy the Macbook Pro they need
--17 inch version
--1920 x 1280 scree resolution

and for the love of God a backlit keyboard!

 

Is that supposed to be 1920x1200 (MBP) or 1920x1080? Odds are an Envy 17 will be the 16:9 resolution. More important to me is that it'd keep the anti-glare screen option. Also in the more important to me category is a numpad over a backlit keyboard since I don't use a laptop in the dark.

Would really like it if they continued to leave out the ODD and instead doubled up on the Envy 15's HDD bays to allow for the option to install four 1.8" drives.

What a 17.3" Envy model absolutely must have for me to buy it though is a Mob. HD5850 (GDDR5) or better GPU.

 

I really want 1920 by 1280--I am too used to the screen space on the mac book pro. Is that why so many comps have 1200p--because people wat the 16:9?

 

do you know if the mobile radeon cards are removable (like a piece of ram?) I love the envy 15 form factor but I am just irked about the 5830...I'd rather have the 5850 to make use of the GDDR5 bandwidth.

 

I think you mean 1080p? and yes thats the reason as far as I can tell...regardless, its better than what I have now (1280x800) which was better than what I had before (1170x700). If you don't mind me asking when was your MBP manufactured? My buddy has one from 2007 and I don't remember it having a 1920x1280 display.

 

no I do not mean 1080p...I mean what I said which was 1920 by 1200

Mine was in 2007. Now 1280 is the default option. Go to apple.com and looks at the specs youfself.

It's far superior to 1080p and it puzzles me why people like it so much.

 

A 1080 vertical screen allows you to make a slightly smaller laptop than a 1200 vertical screen (I have yet to see one that's 1280 high... there are only a few LCD manufacturers out there), while still having the same width for a keyboard. That, and movies are at the 1920x1080 resolution... people get upset with black bars for some silly reason.

 

A macbook pro is the smallest 17 inch there is--I don't think it prevents you from making a small laptop.

the movie thing I already know about but I watch movies on my big screen. ad I would rather have screen real estate for application and much more viewing space, then give 2 s$33 about minor black space.

I mean really, it's a suprisingly dumb change.

 

I totally see your reasoning, but its has to be the whole HD movie thing...I think its odd that people buy a laptop as a movie player, it is a nice ability to play a video and have it look good, but pretty odd to make it the end all for a laptop purchase. To each their own I guess.

Though I am curious how much of a difference 200px actually makes. I have no way to gauge that and it seems like a pretty trivial request. I guess with the 1920x1280 you get about 2.46 million square pixels and with 1920x1080 you get about 2.07 million square pixels...so thats about a 19% increase in screen real estate. Thats nothing to sneeze at I presume.

 

so I had the HP 18.4 inch dv8t.. and compared it to the 17 inch mbp.

Side by side it was no comparison. I'd hop on the HP even tho it was 18.4 inches and I would miss the extra screen real estate. It felt like 30% more screen even tho the MBP was actually much smaller.

 

haha wow...thats pretty sucky on HP's part then. My external 23" LCD is native 1080p, you make we want to go buy one with native 1280p lol.

 

The 2 year mbp screen actually holds up really well compared to the envy. I think I may just wait for the mbp update coming and get that

one thng I love about the envy-no dvd drive internal.

I never use the dang thing so it saves a bunch of space. movies and such look just fine on my screen. I've read review on cnet of the envy where they say 1080p is the best but 1920 by 1200 is the best on a mbp at 17.

if hp came out with a envy at 17 with 1920 by 1200, backlit and no dvd internal. 6 pounds and those awesome graphics cards? man I would love that.

 

Can anyone answer this. Is the GPU removable?

 

No, the GPU is not MXM; therfore, it is not removable.

 

ok, thanks

 

Practice what you preach.

http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/specs-17inch.html

 

Again, not 1080p.
that' s not 1080 its 1200. 19x1200 not 19x1080. read the specs in your own link.

1080p is the latter.

 

Have you even read what you typed? You have adamantly proclaimed at least three times that your MBP is 1920x12 80 and people have been asking you what the hell you were talking about.

 

read what I wrote again.

1280p and 1080p are different things. I put the resolution as 1920 by 1200 with a 1280p standard. that's what i wrote. NOT 1080P. 1280.

the second number in 1920 by 1200 does ot make it 1929x1280 It's 1280p.
you are confusing the resolution on the screen, the widescreen hd standard and the aspect ratio.

the main point is instead of 1080 the screen needs to be 19x12.

 

I seriously think you need a screen with a lower resolution because you seem to have trouble reading what numbers you're typing. A screen with an easier to read DPI.....ironically just like 1920x1080.



Let me make my font bigger so you can read:

1920x1200 has 1200 vertical pixels not 1280.

 

you don't know what you are talking about.

 

For the love of Jebus.

 

well regardless of what its called, higher resolution is really only necessary for the most INSANE of applications, like excel. If one needs more screen real estate an external monitor is probably best as the 5830 can deliver. My laptop usage, when on the go, usually consists of office work, and some autocad P&ID drawings that don't need the most real estate as possible, and when they do I'm at my desk chillin with my monster sized monitor. As I see it, ya can't have everything the best all the time. Once you get there, you're already out of date, or you've just spent $8000 on something when a $2000 is sufficient to get the job done...surely bragging rights are nice, but I definitely know when to cut my losses, if you even want to call it that.

 

Forget excel--it makes a huge difference just doing internet browsing. More windows, more space overall. It's wonderful.

Is it more useful for gamers or artists? Sure.

But I game and I valued it just in the internet browsing aspect as well as having more space on my desktop.

It makes a HUGE HUGE difference. You don't know what you are missing.

I had an 18.4 inch with 1080p next to a 17 inch macbook pro with the wider screen at 1200 that was 2 years old and it wasn't even comparable. hard to go back really.

 

hahaha this thread is failblog worthy

thus why I try to avoid mr. steve jobs and his goons =P

 

because everyone on failblog will enjoy a discussion on semantics regarding the use of the term 1280p? i don't think failblog is that classy

 

discussing what defines 1280p vs 1200p s 1080p is pedantic and troll worthy I agree. but i don't mind the guy trolling because it pushes the thread count up. If the thread looks super active--maybe HP will come out with a 17inch screen with 1920 by 1200 resolution.

 

The higher resolution makes a huge difference and folks who are so used to the lower amount now don't know what they are missing even for basic browsing or looking at your your home screen!

That plus backlit keyboard at 6 pounds and no DVD drive for more cooling..it would give the macbooks a run for the money.

After all, isn't HP TRYING to clone MBPs? Clone in all the good specs,, with the DX 11 ATI Card, good cooling, higher resolution---man...I would love to buy that.

 

yeah it would be cool to see a 17" envy but its too much laptop for me, as for cooling that should always be the number 1 priority when it comes to laptop design, I'm pretty stoked to check out the Envy 15's cooling. The vents on the front and on the side and on the bottom seem perfect. It seems well made for sitting in a lap or a bed. Of course there could be too much crap crammed in to make the front vents of any use in those circumstances and really they could just be there for passive convection around the ram and cpu and hd. If the 15 does well I bet they'll shoot for the 17 and you may get your wish.

edit: ideally I would have 3hrs battery life with moderate use (word, browser, bluetooth), i7-920qm (the 2.0ghz model) and ati mobility 5850 with 8gb ram all crammed in the 15" envy....who knows they might have it by summer lol...sigh i'll cry if they do...not much though.

 

I put my 17 inch on a cushion. keeps the possibility of kids alive

 

Wait...I though you were the troll to begin with.

You are right...it is rather pedantic to discuss resolution terms.... as pedantic as usb2.0 vs usb3.0. All one and the same, right?

 

I don't think asking for a feature that the macbook pro has--higher resolution than 1080p is trolling. It's asking for a feature--not trolling.

Then several people said -are you sure you don't mean 1080p? And I said jesus no--you guys don't even know what you are missing out on. 2-3 years ago, I would argue 1920x1280 was far more common--it's actually less common now because people want 1080p. So many in fact don't use it or know what they are missing.

Then someone decided they wanted to have a debate on whether 1920 by 1200 was 1280p or 1200p. That really isn't that important or interesting and lots of people throw terms down loosely--but who cares, all that matters is HP launches a 17 inch version with 1920x1200. The more trolls and little nerdy board warriors who have nothing better to do then fight board wars then the bigger the thread gets. So hey --troll on.

 

Saying you want more than 1080p resolution is not trolling, but I hope you do realize that there's no such thing as 1280p.

People are right- 1920x1200 is typical, but nobody makes a 1920x1280 pixel screen.

1920x1200 is higher res than 1920x1080, which is correct, but please get your numbers straight before calling people trolls for telling you you're wrong, which you are.

Many people know what they're missing with 1080p vs 1200p. It's just that it's becoming a less common option now, since HDTV resolutions are becoming more popular due to blu-ray and the standardization of 1080p as an HD resolution.

Most companies are moving to 1080p vs 1200p due to LCD manufacturers moving towards the 16x9 aspect ratio. Who knows, maybe apple will move to 16x9 soon due to LCD manufacturers.

 

Actually you might want to read what I said.

I asked for the rez just like in the MBP, and they said no that's just 1080P. Period.

Then some idiot came in and started debating whether it was 1280p or 1200p. I've seen people talk about BOTH 1280P ad 1200P which you say does not exist. It really doesn't matter and is really just a stupid debate. Some nerd is like offended about 1280P or 1200 p or wants to start some sort of geeky board war. feel free.

The fact is, Apple makes a higher resolution that is NOT 1080P which was my point and I told people to go check for themseles AND that I had a laptop and it was much higher resolution than 1080p and people still wanted to debate to.

You seem to as well--have at it.

 

@Chronostorm...here is the actual thread in case you would like to read it. And getting into a huge debate ad taking a thread off track over 1920 by 1280 vs 1920 by 1200 is trollling.

 

Oh and I did a quick search on your comment "but I hope you do realize that there's no such thing as 1280p". Quite a smug message especially when it turns out you were the one who was wrong, not I.

Here is a link to the Acer with a 1280p screen. I copied the first few paragraphs with the review in it. For the record I'd take EITHER a 1280 or 1200. It really bloody doesn't matter unless you are retarded.

http://www.crn.com/hardware/208402534;jsessionid=TGGCDIZHMXCX3QE1GHOSKHWATMY32JVN


Over the last few years, a new niche of notebook computers has been forming around the Hi-Def media trend. Still, never in our wildest dreams did we expect to see something so beautifully designed as the new 18.4-inch Acer AS8920.
When reviewers lifted this nine-pound behemoth out of its box, everyone in the Test Center stopped what they were doing to come over and drool.

Labeled Gemstone Blue, the case has a carbon black look to it, but when light hits it at just the correct angle, little glints of blue can be seen. The AS8920 was obviously designed from the beginning with entertainment in mind. Acer claims that it is the first notebook with a 16:9 screen (other widescreen laptops are actually 16:10), and the first with true 1920 x 1280 high-definition resolution.

 

http://www.laptopmag.com/review/laptops/acer-aspire-8920.aspx
the review you posted was a typo. the 1920x1280 DOES NOT EXIST.

1920x1200 exists (16:10) 1920:1080 (16:9) exists 1920:1280(3:2) doesn't exist period

The Macbook Pro 17 has the 1920x1200 screen which is beautiful. but it's not a 1920:1280.

I know your trolling but for other readers sake i need to post the correction.

 

This must be a typo too?

View Full Version : Acer Aspire 6530G

alving9
21-02-2009, 09:57 PM
Hi guys, I just bought this laptop at SLS.

Anybody using this?

AMD Turion X2 dual core mobile 2.2Ghz
16" HD Acer
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3470 Hybrid x 2 hyper memory
3 GB DDR2
320GB HDD

Can give me some comments on this lappie? good or bad pls chip in.

awaiting for reply. Thanks
iPhunk
21-02-2009, 10:01 PM
how much u got it? pretty good spec for AMD -based lappie
alving9
21-02-2009, 10:05 PM
1.4k with office 2007
alving9
22-02-2009, 07:18 PM
any comments on this laptop?
Pretty-boy
22-02-2009, 07:31 PM
I'm using this notebook. And here are my opiniuons on it:

since Acer had advertised it as being capable of 1920 x 1280 TrueHD.

 

LOL. This is too funny. Marsh, you sir, are an idiot. I agree with everyone you are the one who is a troll who can't see past your tunnel vision. That article is a typo, there is no such thing as 1920x1280 (that's not even 16:9!!!). 16:9 would be 1920x1080 (also known as 1080p - 1080 horizontal lines). Take out a calc if thats what it takes to get through your thick head, divide 1280 by 1920 and you get .666 (16:9 is 0.5625).

here's the specs for the Acer AS8920 courtesy to laptopmag:
http://www.laptopmag.com/review/laptops/acer-aspire-8920.aspx?mode=specs

 

AS8920G
http://www.acerdirect.co.uk/Acer_Aspire_8920_Gemstone_Blue_Laptops/prod.asp
6530G? wow, your amazing it's not even 1920x1080 it's only 1366x768.
http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/laptops/252633/acer-6530g

trust me the 3:2 ratio doesn't exist, at least not on anything in the last 10 years or in the next 10 years. it's easy enough to mist type 1080 as 1280.

 

lol we posted almost the same thing, by the way I think you divide 1920/1080 to get 16:9 at 1.777777778. 1920x1280 = 1.5 which is 3:2 but your way still proves our point .

If marsh wants to believe there is a 1920x1280 that's fine, but I want to make sure other people have the facts.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1080p

according to wikipedia, there is no mention of 1280 horizontal lines, just 1920x1200 (16:10) and 1920x1080 (16:9). It would be prohibitively expensive to order a custom LCD panel just for a single notebook (ie, it never happens).