The Notebook Review forums were hosted by TechTarget, who shut down them down on January 31, 2022. This static read-only archive was pulled by NBR forum users between January 20 and January 31, 2022, in an effort to make sure that the valuable technical information that had been posted on the forums is preserved. For current discussions, many NBR forum users moved over to NotebookTalk.net after the shutdown.
Problems? See this thread at archive.org.

    Envy beats or Envy 15

    Discussion in 'HP' started by Blaine_Shadowrider, Mar 21, 2010.

  1. Blaine_Shadowrider

    Blaine_Shadowrider Notebook Guru

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    65
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    Just wondering a couple things about the beats edition as compared to the envy 15 version.
    1. What reason is there for the 800 dollar difference in price other than the beats headphones?
    and
    2.Does the back of the case only have the beats logo on it or is there any type of laser etching like on the original envy.
     
  2. altecX

    altecX Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    44
    Messages:
    894
    Likes Received:
    39
    Trophy Points:
    41
    its just a black case, headphonesand like an external amp for them.
     
  3. DrewVL

    DrewVL Notebook Guru

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    69
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    $800 price difference??? serious?

    will i like the clean look of the beats and black as well. I really dont like the greyish cream color and those laser made lining.

    if you configure online it's cheaper than the one in store. I personally would configure it with i5 and wouldnt stuff the quad core into this machine (just too hot)

    Im eyeing on Sony Z, Envy, and Lenovo X301 (hopefully they release the new updated version soon)
     
  4. wild05kid05

    wild05kid05 Cook Free or Die

    Reputations:
    410
    Messages:
    1,183
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    If you have the opportunity ,just buy it, I think it worths it
     
  5. Blaine_Shadowrider

    Blaine_Shadowrider Notebook Guru

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    65
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    well I've found that it's a reasonable price if I go for the i5 processor with beats, but I'm afraid of a performance drop especially since I could get a regular envy with more ram and a better processor for the same price.
     
  6. Ramzii

    Ramzii Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    263
    Messages:
    407
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Whats so special about beats?

    Ive been seeing it a lot in movies lately.. the marketing department mustve dropped a load a cash.
     
  7. Meever

    Meever Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    54
    Messages:
    460
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    You get a mediocre pair of headphones (worth 50 bucks at best, retails for hundreds though), a decent DJ software and the nice black finish. honestly. between the two I like the black finish better than the default gunmetal because of the gaudy etching but I wouldn't play the difference. Way to friggen high.

    Oh one other difference.

    On your keyboard, instead of a regular letter "B" the Beats edition uses the Beats logo. Yeah.... awesome right?
     
  8. Blaine_Shadowrider

    Blaine_Shadowrider Notebook Guru

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    65
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    I've tried out those headphones and they are far from mediocre, In fact they are really high quality headphones that also look cool.
     
  9. DeathDealer

    DeathDealer Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    3
    Messages:
    257
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    31
    Are the interior guts the same as the regular Envy 15?

    An AMAZON review claimed its actually cooler with the black magnesium. Thoughts?
     
  10. DeathDealer

    DeathDealer Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    3
    Messages:
    257
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    31
    Also, did the Beats Edition get a 2nd gen release?
     
  11. ronnieb

    ronnieb Representing the Canucks

    Reputations:
    613
    Messages:
    1,869
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    The Black looks amazing... I would get the beats, sell the earphones and all that other junk.
     
  12. Amnesiac

    Amnesiac 404

    Reputations:
    1,312
    Messages:
    3,433
    Likes Received:
    20
    Trophy Points:
    106
    BS. Beats is just like a lot of the other brands out there like Skullcandy, etc. They are only popular because people get the image that they are cool to own, or that they are the best because the people see them in music videos, and in mainstream media.

    Come back when you have listened to some Sennheiser HD 650's, then we'll talk.
     
  13. Blaine_Shadowrider

    Blaine_Shadowrider Notebook Guru

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    65
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    I have no doubt the Sennheiser HD 650's would have better quality, but then again they are 200 more than the $300 envy headphones. I'll also agree that maybe you pay a little more for style with the beats. Now , that being said don't write these headphones off as simply a celebrity endorsement or what have you, because these are really good headphones ESPECIALLY compared to the crap sound quality skullcandy which while they look cool sound just horrible compared to any decent set of headphones. I've used the beats many times so I at least know what I'm talking about when it comes to their sound quality.
     
  14. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    91
    Messages:
    480
    Likes Received:
    18
    Trophy Points:
    31
    It's 90% marketing. Yeah the headphones are 'good' but there are plenty of great sets of headphones out there for less than this. You pay a lot more for the style.

    I like the exterior case appearance as well, but I wouldn't pay more for it.

    I wouldn't tell you not to buy one if you love it and have the money. But you should ask yourself what it is you're comfortable paying for: a laptop computer, a fashion statement, or some of each?

    Getting into 'are the headphones good/better than XYZ headphones' is sort of beside the point -- I'm sure they're quite good. But not $800 worth of good. HP knows that there is a market segment that will spend a huge amount of cash on stuff like this and they want to tap into it.
     
  15. GOMAB2k4

    GOMAB2k4 Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    41
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    I had an Envy Beats and my friend has a regular Envy (both i7s). The Beats does not get as hot on the palmrests as the regular Envy, but the Beats gets hotter underneath...pick your poison.

    However, I hear that heat is not an issue with the i5 models...
     
  16. maverickbunit

    maverickbunit Notebook Geek

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    84
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    Beats headphones are garbage for the price, though the white ones look sick.
    I would just get the normal Envy 15, the black looks awesome, but I wouldn't pay $800 for it.
     
  17. Amnesiac

    Amnesiac 404

    Reputations:
    1,312
    Messages:
    3,433
    Likes Received:
    20
    Trophy Points:
    106
    Agree with you on Skullcandy, but have you used a wide range of headphones other than just the Beats? You mention that you have used the Beats many times, but have you used a range of quality Audio Technica, or Sennheiser headphones? You need a a good experience to compare it to.
     
  18. moviemarketing

    moviemarketing Milk Drinker

    Reputations:
    1,036
    Messages:
    4,247
    Likes Received:
    881
    Trophy Points:
    181
    you can add the beats headphones as an option on the accessories page for $299
     
  19. johnnobts

    johnnobts Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    429
    Messages:
    1,922
    Likes Received:
    104
    Trophy Points:
    81
    I have a Beats and love the thing, but I had a $450 coupon plus I got $160 off later too. Sold the headphones for $250. It looks nicer than the standard Envy 15 (don't like the pattern, if it was a solid aluminum color I'd be happy). Also, its a very high quality paint job on the casing. I get lots of oohs and ahs with it.

    Then again, if money is tight, it performs no better or worse than the standard edition.
     
  20. dapreview

    dapreview Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    11
    Messages:
    210
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    to any interested parties: before you spend $300 on these (overrated, overpriced) headphones do yourself a favor and spend some time at head-fi.org :)