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    F.17 Bios for the DV6000T

    Discussion in 'HP' started by ruibing, Apr 23, 2007.

  1. ruibing

    ruibing Notebook Consultant

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    Hi, I just received my dv6000t CTO today and I just found out that it has F.17 bios. Does anyone know what this bios provides/fixes/updates? It doesn't seem to be on the HP website.

    Thanks,
    Ruibing

    Update:


    Hey, so here's the f.17 bios file, let me know if the bios file works. Remember I'm not responsible for any damages it causes. ;)

    http://www.sendspace.com/file/jtp69v

    Here's the link to a 7zip exe archive of the bios file:

    http://www.sendspace.com/file/b86vpj

    Please let me know if anyone has problems with these files.
     
  2. kewlguy

    kewlguy Guest

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    can you provide us with a backup of the F.17 bios? I had started a thread for this latest bios.. but no one had it.
    It would help resolving the SLIC table issue with current HP bios.
     
  3. ruibing

    ruibing Notebook Consultant

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    I don't mind but two questions:

    1) Can I legally do that eventhough HP hasn't officially released it yet?
    2) How would I go about doing this?
     
  4. kewlguy

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    Ofcourse.. since HP has updated your system with it.. its legal.

    Steps how to backup your exisiting bios.
    Download the version F.16 BIOS update for the dv6000t from HP's site ( ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/softpaq/sp34501-35000/sp34782.exe). Go ahead and run this so that it installs in swsetup folder.. but do not run the flash utility to update your laptop BIOS.. just click exit and it will give you easy access to C:/SWSetup/SP34782/30BBF16.exe. Unpack 30BBF16.exe using WinRAR. This will get you the Phoenix Winflash utility, along with the Winflash BIOS file 30BBF16.WPH.
    Now modify the PHLASH.INI file so that it shows the full user interface. Set HideAll=0, and add Advanced=1 under [UI]. Now you can run Winflash and backup your BIOS.
    you can then upload the bios for easy access.
     
  5. Jamaicanyouth

    Jamaicanyouth Notebook Evangelist

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    Hopefully, he does it. However I think he might be scared.
     
  6. ruibing

    ruibing Notebook Consultant

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    Heh, I'll give it try, but wait until Thursday night, I have three prelims and a project due before then. I don't know why I spent the time writing a reinstallation guide, I'm so behind.
     
  7. vap87

    vap87 Notebook Geek

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    since you have the new bios, do you have the problem of the fan running on all the time ? what about the high pitched noise?
     
  8. kewlguy

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    you cant do much with the high pitched noise.. thats a hardware issue.
     
  9. ruibing

    ruibing Notebook Consultant

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    @vap87

    After running for about an hour on laptop mode (adapt) in WinXP Pro SP2, speedfan shows my cpu cores at about 34C, my HDD at 35C, and Temp1 (is this my northbridge?) at 51C. It is well elevated and no fan is on. C4 function is enabled in BIOS. Using up to date drivers from HP website only except for graphics card, which uses the latest one from tweakrus.

    Btw, if anyone seems improvement or problems from this, please let me know.
     
  10. kewlguy

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    u da man.

    file size looks good. will do the SLIC test and edit it to bypass the wireless whitelist check and repost it back (if my laptop is still alive). Thanks!
     
  11. kewlguy

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    can't open the file with bios editor. slaps with a "invalid ROM length!" error.

    u sure it the backup file? usually it gets backed up with a .bak extension .. unless you changed it.
     
  12. ruibing

    ruibing Notebook Consultant

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    Yeah I changed it, but I'll do it again.
     
  13. kewlguy

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    kewl. thanks!
     
  14. DV6174CL

    DV6174CL Notebook Enthusiast

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    Under XP, the new F.17 does absolute magic for my PC!

    For the first time ever the fan does not cycle on and off every 2 minutes when internet browsing. I am so excited! NHC shows me a core temperature of 45 degrees Celsius; before the PC was oscillating between 32 and 38 or similar. I'll have to use other tools to check what is going on. When starting a game like Farcry, the fan still comes on which is a good sign. The new silence scares me. Temperature is going up to 51 degrees as I type.

    By the way: When describing my fan issue to HP CS earlier this year, they asked me to send the PC for repair. I got it back with the same problem, but F.15 had been updated to F.16 because in the meantime a newer Bios had been released.
     
  15. ruibing

    ruibing Notebook Consultant

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    Well for me, the HDD stays around 40-41C. Under light load, the CPU stays around 30-35C. while under heavier load it goes between 40-48C. The only thing that seems really hot is the "Temp1", which I think is the northbridge or some other chipset that's probably being passively cooled (if at all).

    I'm in a 75 F room, with the laptop raised on an even desk, so it has good circulation. Currently, I'm installing a lot of apps, so CPU load goes between 0 and 50%, and the core temperature goes between 35 and 42C.
     
  16. ethant

    ethant Notebook Enthusiast

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    I am hopeful that this will help those of us with the "Vista fan issue"!
     
  17. DV6174CL

    DV6174CL Notebook Enthusiast

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    Well, according to Speedfan my Core temperature is OK between 33C to 36C when more or less idle. My HD is at 49C, Temp1 at 51C. Will need to see what that means and whether the values are acceptable.

    Under 30% load when Skyping, Cores go from 30C to 40C, HD at 49C, Temp1 from 45C to 56C.
     
  18. ruibing

    ruibing Notebook Consultant

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    Are you also using an adaptive power saving scheme?
     
  19. DV6174CL

    DV6174CL Notebook Enthusiast

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    No power scheme.

    Another observation: Running Diskeeper under Vista, my HD reached 59C which a) is to high and b) made the fan kick in every other minute. Even when going back to XP - no Diskeeper - with the HD temp still above 53C the fan came on frequently. After some time the HD cooled down to 50C and then the fan almost stopped kicking in. I wonder whether my HD runs too hot - defragmentation cannot be a problem.
     
  20. kewlguy

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    let me know once u have uploaded the bios backup again. thanks for all your help.
     
  21. ruibing

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    I already have, I basically just updated the original link I provided. ^^
     
  22. kewlguy

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    darn.. same error. Shouldnt be happening as its a bios file.
    can anyone concur?
     
  23. DV6174CL

    DV6174CL Notebook Enthusiast

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    No errors here. Installed it 26 hours ago.
     
  24. kewlguy

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    i meant opening it with phoenix bios editor. if you could install it that means its a good backup. not sure why its not opening in bios editor.
     
  25. ruibing

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    I got it using WinFlash and it seems to checkout fine. If you still can't figure out, it might be the download is getting corrupted by a firewall or something. I can use a zip file and include a checksum/hash in there for integrity verification. Let me know.
     
  26. kewlguy

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    ok try it. maybe it will work this way.
     
  27. therock

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    Why are you guys flashing to f.17? What are the details on the changes?
     
  28. ruibing

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    So I put up a 7zip exe archive of the bios on the first post. Hope this works.

    @therock
    It came with my laptop, which I just got CTO a few days ago, it has very good cooling. Running SuperPi at least for 32M, it never goes above 42C. I haven't tried some of the other ones it. I hope it solves some people's problem with the laptops.

    I have no idea what's better about this versus F.16, so we'll see I guess.
     
  29. ruibing

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    I'm actually also getting about 47C on idle. I found out that the Core temp shown by the SpeedFan is wrong. So you are saying you used to get 32 to 38C, but it used to cycle on and off a lot? It's true that I don't noticed a lot of on and off, but I don't like a temperature close to 50C either.
     
  30. ruibing

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    I tried switching to F.16 and the core temperature did drop to 32-35C, but now the fan seems to always be on low. So does that mean that all the F.17 BIOS did is raise the fan-on trigger condition?
     
  31. kewlguy

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    same problem with the zipped one. darn !!
     
  32. therock

    therock Notebook Evangelist

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    You guys are brave. :smile:
    I never load a new BIOS unless I know the details. A person posts they has F.17 and folks jump on it sight-unseen.
    I'm glad it didn't cause any catastrophic problems. He could have had different hardware for all we know.
    My F.16 system's fan runs very low most of the time and only ramps up for very short bursts occasionally. Battery life is good on the 12cell.
    Mine is not broke so I'm not fixing it. :nah:
     
  33. ruibing

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    Is it corrupt or incompatible? Because I flashed down to F.16 and then back up to F.17 with no problem with the bios file i uploaded.

    @therock

    I tried F.16, the fan stays on for the lowest setting for a temp of 33C, but with F.17, the fan stays off for a temp of 50C. I'm not sure which is better. Besides this, I haven't noticed any difference. I might go back down to F.16 because I don't quite like such a high temp.
     
  34. therock

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    I agree. Notebooks run hot that is all there is to it. They take great pains to cool them off. Only one of the big reasons and advantages the dual core processors were developed, out of the need to keep heat down for high speed processors.

    Also the fellow who recieved his from HP with F.17 could be for the whine noise issue but who knows?

    Did your whine with or with out the F.17?
     
  35. ruibing

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    @therock
    I'm not sure what people mean when they say whine, but with the f17 I the fan doesn't come on at all unless the core temperature is above 52C, while with f16 the fan stays on low (it's just a quiet background noise of air flow).

    What temperature does your laptop idle at with f16?
     
  36. ethant

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    I (and several others) have problems with the fan running at a higher rate all the time with f.16, so I am hopeful that f.17 will correct that issue. If it were just the quiet, slow speed I wouldn't mind it too much, but its much louder the that on my machine. All the same, I think I will wait for the official release from HP before giving f.17 a go.

    50c might not be too bad, I had an AthlonXP processor that would idle around 50 - 55c normally, but that does seem a bit hot for a Core Duo, it might be worth digging around Intel's documentation to see if I can find a recommended temp range.
     
  37. ruibing

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    I went back to F.16, because I don't like how it warms up the laptop so much with F.17. But the fact that the low fan speed never shuts off is a problem I think. I'm doing idle productivity work (web browsing, word, etc) and its at 35C, but the fan doesn't turn off. Does that mean it wants to go lower? I wonder at what temperature it will turn off at. This may just be that I need a good thermal paste for the cpu.

    If anyone's core 2 duo turns off the fan at a certain speed for f.17, what's the temperature?
     
  38. kewlguy

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    looks like phoenix bios editor cant open bios backup files. only the original bios files can be opened.
     
  39. ruibing

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    That's odd, I used the winflash that came with the bios update file from hp's winxp driver download site. It did both the backing up and flashing. It accepts .bak files as the new bios just fine.
     
  40. NeedALaptop07

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    How do you tell which BIOS version you have? My fans seem to be on quite often at low temperatures, even when doing non intensive tasks. They turn off completely sometimes, but rarely.
     
  41. ruibing

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    Easiest way is to just go to your BIOS during startup (press F10), it will be there as one of the info. There's also utilities like SiSoft Sandra and Everest.