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    Farewell, fellow Envy Owners

    Discussion in 'HP' started by zeth006, Apr 19, 2011.

  1. zeth006

    zeth006 Traveler

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    Hey all,

    I'm sorry. But the relationship just didn't work out. I couldn't stand the damn keyboard. Never got used to the chiclet keyboard after almost a year. Didn't like the fact my typing speed was only 1/2 on this keyboard compared to regular keyboards. My boss even commented that I type super fast on a regular keyboard. But on this keyboard...feel like a damn turtle.

    I'll miss the dedicated GPU and the beautiful radiance display, though I no longer do any notebook gaming. I'm eBaying this after finals and getting a Lenovo instead. I'll probably recover most of the price of the Envy that I paid for it.
     
  2. aznanarchy99

    aznanarchy99 Notebook Consultant

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    I love this keyboard although I love my mechanical one at home much better.
     
  3. vsherry

    vsherry Notebook Evangelist

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    I have actually grown so accustomed to the chiclet keyboard that I have no desire to return to standard ones in future computer purchases.
     
  4. GivingHope

    GivingHope Notebook Consultant

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    Same here, but I grew accustomed to the keyboard and doesn't bother me too much. I also type faster and more comfortably on my full sized desktop keyboard. I guess laptop keyboards just aren't for me. Not a big fan of the chiclet keyboard either.
     
  5. awdotson

    awdotson Notebook Consultant

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    The shape of the keys never mattered to me as much as the mechanism behind the keys. Hope you enjoy your experiences with lenovo better. My wife switched from a lenovo to the envy after seeing mine (mostly for power/aesthetic reasons).
     
  6. belltown

    belltown Notebook Consultant

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    I also hate the ENVY keyboard. Unless I press with more force than I'm used to, and press in the exact center of the key, many times the keypress doesn't register at all. I don't plan on getting rid of my ENVY, but if I were that would be the reason -- that and the touchpad.
     
  7. zeth006

    zeth006 Traveler

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    Yeah. Key spacing also killed it for me. People, I get typos regardless how far they're spaced apart. In fact, making the keys small only increases the # of typos for me.
     
  8. MagusDraco

    MagusDraco Biiiiiiirrrrdmaaaaaaan

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    I got used to the keyboard after like a month.


    ah well. The touchpad still sucks. next laptop I get I'm gonna have to make sure the touchpad is recessed some into the laptop so it doesn't register my thumbs (like my old asus g1)
     
  9. zeth006

    zeth006 Traveler

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    Touchpad locker solved that problem for me on the Envy.

    I'm told that the T420's touchpad software does that for you anyway.
     
  10. MagusDraco

    MagusDraco Biiiiiiirrrrdmaaaaaaan

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    honestly the software for the touchpad itself (latest unofficial drivers that also let you click anywhere) do it for you as well.


    of course reil's doesn't actually take that into account and still does stuff anyway. So...oh well *shuts touchpad off forever*
     
  11. zeth006

    zeth006 Traveler

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    But Paradisoft's Touchpad Locker software (free) overrides reil's software in that respect.
     
  12. MagusDraco

    MagusDraco Biiiiiiirrrrdmaaaaaaan

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    yeah. Oh well, I dun mind just leaving it off while I have a mouse plugged in
     
  13. Fat Dragon

    Fat Dragon Just this guy, you know?

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    Personally, the keyboard's fine, the touchpad I can live with (after all, its multitouch capability makes it better than the touchpads on my former computers), the screen (radiance) is very nice, the battery life (with the slice) covers my needs, while removing the slice makes it lighter while still sufficing for a few hours of study/work at a coffee shop or such location. Give it edge to edge and a better touchpad and it would be almost unbeatable...

    ...but...

    I hate, Hate, HATE the fact that I got a defective GPU and I can't get it repaired until I get back to the States in July. It's only gotten worse with time, too - games that played fine early on crash almost immediately now. The stupid GPU has caused crashing on: The Witcher, Borderlands, Farcry 2, Bioshock 2, Burnout Paradise, Fallout 3, and STALKER: Call of Pripyat, and the only reason it's not crashed on other games is that I haven't tried playing any other games as intensive as those on it. If I had a dedicated gaming PC, it wouldn't be a big deal, but I only keep one computer, so it's pretty dang annoying.
     
  14. awdotson

    awdotson Notebook Consultant

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    gcrussell, depending on where you are, if you can find a repair center that is authorized to work on HP, they can get reimbursed for the parts + labor. HP's global warranty.
     
  15. Fat Dragon

    Fat Dragon Just this guy, you know?

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    Since the part (mobo) isn't available in China - HP's convoluted internal architecture is such that pretty much no department can communicate with another department, so the fact that the mobo is manufactured here is moot - they'd have to get it in stock in the US, then ship it to a US address unaffiliated with HP, from whence it could be shipped over to China (customs declared, in spite of the fact that they were already declared on the way out as well). Besides, I've heard other stories where authorized repair centers outside the US (which sometimes were, sometimes weren't HP's own service centers) haven't been able to confirm any information on the global warranty and have refused to do the work.

    Besides, I believe the international warranty includes a clause specifying that the model in question must be available in the country where the service is requested, which seems to me like a cop-out designed to create a situation in which HP can offer a global warranty without being obligated to honor it, since model numbers vary between countries even if the overall model and specs are essentially the same.

    In the long run, I'm pretty sure that such a move would have no other effect than to give me a series of headaches. I'm not willing to deal with that, at least not as long as I've got an alternative. I don't have to have gaming capability right now, so I'm just waiting until July.
     
  16. vsherry

    vsherry Notebook Evangelist

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    I am not convinced the gestures automatically improve the touch pad over standard ones. My recessed dv6000 touch pad was killer with its two dedicated buttons and a scroll line. I really didn't need my touch pad to do any more than that one, which never got in the way during typing and had no gestures to confuse or respond to in a delayed fashion. I never had to worry that it would cease to depress, either. My touch pad is decent now, after help from user-generated software and improvements over the first Envy I bought. But I still prefer the beauty and ease of simplicity.
     
  17. awdotson

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    I could careless about multi touch, my big thing about the envy is, other than a mac, its the biggest touch pad you can find. I strictly use one finger and tap, never click.
     
  18. zeth006

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    Now that I think about it, my main gripe was the distance of the keys. I'm one of those dudes with big palms but short fingers.
     
  19. Fat Dragon

    Fat Dragon Just this guy, you know?

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    Well, here's hoping your next laptop suits you better. When you spend a lot of time on the built-in input, it's a huge pain if it doesn't fit well. I've not had any problems with it because I've got big hands so I can type with my palms to the side of the touchpad just fine, but the closer you've got to get to the keys, the harder it gets with a touchpad this big...
     
  20. tybert7

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    It's ok, no one can help having sausage fingers.
     
  21. ironman

    ironman Notebook Evangelist

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    amen.
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