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    GPU temp high? Not overclocked.

    Discussion in 'HP' started by jong81, Apr 6, 2008.

  1. jong81

    jong81 Notebook Consultant

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    So I was checking out Second Life on my lappy this past weekend and I noticed it getting hotter than its ever been before. I checked the CPU, GPU temps and the CPUs were around 45-50C or something like that - but what I was really concerned with was the GPU - it was at 80+ degrees C - it's never gone above 70 C (Warcraft 3 type games). What is the max temp in C an integrated GPU can safely go? Check my sig for system details.

    I'm posting this because I have not been able to find a clear answer in the forums and none involving an HP.
     
  2. JCMS

    JCMS Notebook Prophet

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    That seems freaking high for an integrated chip but nvidia chips can usually withstand 100C easily (mine's always working at that)
     
  3. flipfire

    flipfire Moderately Boss

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    i didnt even know you could check the temps with an integrated card. Mine refuses to show
     
  4. jong81

    jong81 Notebook Consultant

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    yeah ... it shows up on HWMonitor. Usually, it's around 60C when idle. I'll just not run Second Life ... it's kind of a freaky program anyway.
     
  5. flipfire

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    Second Life can be pretty intensive specially for your integrated card.

    My x3100 doesnt show up on HWmonitor or CPU-z
     
  6. miner

    miner Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    The temps look normal atleast from my perspective. From what I have noticed these Nvidia IGP's tend to run a bit hotter than normal. As long as you are not running above 100C, you should be fine, although the cooler it runs, better for the system. If the extra heat bothers you add a cooler and use it while you are gaming, that should help run it cooler.

    BTW, my 6150Go runs around 75C normal usage, gaming takes it over 100C. So, definately an improvement for the 7150M, if the max is only 80C. High temps are one of the causes for failures in the older HP systems with the 6150Go/nforce 430 chipsets. Thats why you see lots of symptoms related to no video on screen, no display on LCD etc.
     
  7. limleong

    limleong Notebook Enthusiast

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    GPU idle at 75C is pretty high. My Go6150 is sitting at around 56C at light load and at stress is about 70C. This is with the BIOS update which makes the fan spins constantly.

    Temp of 75 to 100C is enough to cause damage to nearby components even if the NVIDIA GPU can handle those temps.
     
  8. jong81

    jong81 Notebook Consultant

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    Nearby components, such as the broadcom wireless that AMD chipsets are notorious for having fail in certain pavilions?
     
  9. miner

    miner Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    It used to be higher. HP replaced the system board along with the wifi(even though I had no issues at that time) back in Oct/Nov, couple of months before they announced the repair recall. The GPU used to hit 126C during gaming and regular use idled around 90C. I have had mine for close to 2yrs and the GPU/chipset temps are pretty much the same as they were when I first bought it.

    It might fail later one day but by that time I would probably be looking for a new one anyways. Moreover I still have my old Compaq around the home, going strong(except for the battery) into its 5th year.
     
  10. Destiny

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    This GPU is known for being so high. I dont think it has any radiator or anything to cool it. To be honest, I only had problems with this GPU and its high temps.
     
  11. booyoo

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    on my Go 6150 the nvidia driver in Temperatue Settings shows 'Core slowdown threshold :125c' and its impossible for me to change it.. so I assume they expect up to 125c to be within operating range.
     
  12. ncstate11

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    I have one of the affected hp laptops and my gpu temperature right now is 105C (220F) I deff think my laptop is going to fry out again...
     
  13. flipfire

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    send it in for the recall warranty then..
     
  14. xvvvz

    xvvvz Notebook Evangelist

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    >>Temp of 75 to 100C is enough to cause damage to nearby components even if the NVIDIA GPU can handle those temps.<<

    This is overstating things and just spreading bad information. 75 is not a problem.
     
  15. limleong

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    There are a lot of intelligence people on this forum and people can judge for themselves whether 75 - 100C is causing overheating issues or not.

    I own multiple Nvidia GPU cards on both Desktop and Laptop and I know that the NVIDIA GPU are tough and can handle 100 C+ temp. However, that does not mean the nearby components (such as WiFi) in a cramped laptop interior can take the heat.

    For the record, if there is no heat management issue, why did HP make a BIOS update for all its AMD/Broadcom based machines (with NVidia GPU) to make the fan spins constantly? In HP's own BIOS release note "The change is to prevent future system problems".
     
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    >>For the record, if there is no heat management issue, why did HP make a BIOS update for all its AMD/Broadcom based machines (with NVidia GPU) to make the fan spins constantly? In HP's own BIOS release note "The change is to prevent future system problems".<<

    It was for a broad problem of overheating and due to more than just the video GPU (e.g. main dual core processors). If the only "problem" heat source was a GPU running at 75 degrees, I bet we wouldn't be seeing the widespread heating problem. At 100? Maybe. That certainly would worry me, but that is a personal opinion.

    My comment was aimed at the claim about 75 and temps in that range. Because pretty much any Nvidia GPU in most recent HP laptops will frequently spike to 75 (but not necessarily 100, or even 85), someone reading your comment could infer they have an imminent disaster pending solely due to their GPU's occasional tendency to hit 75.

    You and I agree that there is a problem with HP and heat buildup. Shame on HP for not testing enough to catch this problem and designing a better laptop. With that said, we need to be cautious with our comments and not worry people unnecessarily (e.g. people with GPUs that spikeat 75 vs something significantly hotter).
     
  17. beanboy89

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    I have a GeForce go 7200 in my dv6000z, and although I never got a temp reading off it, I imagine it was running pretty warm, probably higher than 60°C, because my CPU idled around 60°C most of the time. I can recall a couple of times before it died that the graphics card just stopped working and BSOD'd. The high heat from it most likely killed my wireless LAN, too.
     
  18. Zenica

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    My oc'd 8600M GS is 157 Fahrenheit when playing COD4....

    About 10-15 less when not
     
  19. flipfire

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    I had a GO7200 that ran 87c+ it died within 5 months. It just failed to boot up and gave me 3 beeps which indicated a gpu problem
     
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    The exact same thing that happened to my dv6000. Got three beeps (one long, two short) upon bootup.
     
  21. jong81

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    So basically, I should just use my laptop for surfing the net and never play a game more graphically intense than Warcraft III. The funny thing is that I don't think Second Life is all that graphically intense. I mean, have you SEEN the way it looks? It's like a lesser version of Sims 2. I don't get it. And I lowered the setting to medium. Even Doom 3 didn't run that hot (that I can remember) when I tested how it ran on my machine.
     
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    You could try one thing jong81. Try switching to power saver mode and play the game. It helps!
     
  23. hugorp

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    I have a HP Pavilion 2310us and I am very concerned about the temperature that the laptop have been reaching lately. The machine gets so hot, so hot that I can not believe that is everything ok. I thought was the battery, but I took of and its still warming up. My girlfriend has one and works very cool, very diferent from mine.
    Is there anyone out there that can help me out?!!!
    Thanks
    Hugo.
     
  24. flipfire

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    Firstly whats the specs of your notebook?

    download HWMonitor (google it, first link) to see the HDD/CPU/GPU temps. Report back with your temperatures.