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    Going from a ML-32 to ML-37?

    Discussion in 'HP' started by jack53, Apr 30, 2006.

  1. jack53

    jack53 Dell XPS 9360 i7 Lover!

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    When my warranty is getting close to the end, I plan to max the memory and swap the ML-32 cpu for the ML-37. That cpu will also be cheaper by then too.

    Anybody done this or know how hard it is to get to that dv8000 series cpu?

    I have a habit of buying a new notebook every year, but this may allow me to keep it another year...
     
  2. ZaZ

    ZaZ Super Model Super Moderator

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    Upgrading the hard drive and more memory will give you a bigger performance boost.
     
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    miner Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    The service manual should explain the steps involved in accessing/replacing the processor...
    http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c00554540.pdf

    As zazonz mentioned better HDD might bring about better results rather than the 200MHz ad 1MB L2 cache can.
     
  4. jack53

    jack53 Dell XPS 9360 i7 Lover!

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    In 10 months when my warranty has about a month left, I will do it all, max the memory, max the cpu and get the fastest HD I can get.

    What HD do you suggest?
     
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    ZaZ Super Model Super Moderator

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    Hitachi 7k100 or Seagate 7200.1.
     
  6. Szadek

    Szadek Notebook Geek

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    Better yet, get a Toshiba.

    Seagates and Hitachi's have alot of issues, namely going bad within a year.

    More of them are replaced vs. Toshibas.

    Oh, and make sure you use the proper ESD Devices and procedures.
     
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    According to whom? As with all hard drives a good back up is a must should a problem arise. I have not seen Hitachi or Seagate drives be any more or less problematic than any other drives. Toshiba does not offer a 7200RPM drive as of yet which will offer the best performance.
     
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    preachp Notebook Consultant

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    HI Jack53,
    IF you are talking ten months down the road, in computers you'r talking eons. Wait and see what else developes between now and then. Who knows hd's might get to the 10,000 rpm range by then.
     
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    I second zazonz comment here :) Seagate has much better power consumption specs compared to Toshiba (0.4A vs 0.7A) and has 2 more warranty years (5 vs 3).
    For the processor change, I'm not sure it will worth it. Most likely, it's how you intend to use your lappy at that time. Since you have the habit of buying new lappy every year so you must like to have the latest technology which your old platform will not provide.
     
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    tonepaq Newbie

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    I also have this laptop. Why would hp not put a 7200rpm hdd in it to start with?
    And futhermore, why would hp support tell me not to put one in mine? They say "it will hinder performance? Is this just a battery usage issue?

    Thank you
     
  12. brianstretch

    brianstretch Notebook Virtuoso

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    Most statements from HP support should be considered for entertainment value only. Most likely expensive 7200RPM drives just don't fit HP's marketing plan. I'd be happy if they'd just offer more 5400RPM drives.

    Anyhow, swapping in a 7200RPM drive is no big deal, hardware-wise. Reloading the OS and HP's Quickplay stuff will be a bit tedious of course. I decided it wasn't worth replacing the stock 5400RPM drives in my dv8125nr. If I had a 4200RPM drive, well, that sucker would have been long gone.
     
  13. Szadek

    Szadek Notebook Geek

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    I'm not going to say.. Giving too much away..
     
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    Not to pick on you, but I have a Toshiba and it runs hotter than other drives. The unpleasant thing is that it's max temp is 56 and at 56.1 it turns off the laptop.
    I've heard Hitachi's 5400 HDD are quite faster than other 5400 rmp disks so this is what I would get if I don't want to spend too much.
     
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    eyecue Notebook Enthusiast

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    Isn't replacing the processor a hard task? or is it easy to do?
     
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    For HP's current notebooks it's a tricky, tedious task. You have to disassemble nearly the entire notebook. For most people I advise against it. Lunatics like myself might attempt it though. See the service guide if you're really curious.

    The old zv5000 was very easy to upgrade. Open one hatch, remove the heatsink, swap CPUs, put it back together. Too bad HP "fixed" that.
     
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    jack53 Dell XPS 9360 i7 Lover!

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    Looks like HP wants to make it tough to do for most folks as to MAKE you buy a new one instead of upgrading. I've rebuilt several notebooks, so I know I can do it and WILL.
     
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    eatonop Notebook Consultant

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    actually HP buys the chassis (barebones) from an ODM (original design manufacturer) and just brands them. so if things are difficult in terms of assembling/disassembling blame the ODM not the OEM. pretty tricky huh? suddenly you find out all these names on computers all come from a few factories in the orient, and are massed produced. then they are sold to us bearing a brand that determines how expensive it is.

    instead of an ML why not go MT? in terms of heat and battery handling the MT version of the Turion 64 has been judged to be more efficient performer and power saver. there is of course a difference in pricing; the ML is cheaper by a few dollars. but if you have the money to spare i suggest go with the MT. and yes it would work perfectly well with any machine that currently uses Turion 64.
     
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    jack53 Dell XPS 9360 i7 Lover!

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    Well then, it will be a MT-37 then!
    Thanks for the info on the factories too.
     
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    jack53 Dell XPS 9360 i7 Lover!

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    I wonder just how much the price will drop in 3 months or so for the MT-37?
    Off hand, does anyone know what the MT-37 cost now?
     
  21. Szadek

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    Ok, Since I've already revealed where I work, my sources as to longevity of Toshiba vs. Hitachi and others was from feedback from co-technicians at where I work, they repair most of these laptops.
     
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    Check Newegg.com, I can't access it for some reason.
    With Turion X2 coming out in a few weeks, Turion MT 37 will drop in price. Yet, if you decide to wait for it to get cheaper, you might well never buy it because it will get cheaper every day. If you want to save some money, get ML37 and udervolt it. Same result, less money
     
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    jack53 Dell XPS 9360 i7 Lover!

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    How do you undervolt the cpu? Can you give me some links on that?

    I'd like to buy a MT-37 or ML-37 when the price drops, but that would void my warranty wouldn't it?
    Maybe I should wait until there is a month left on warranty, then upgrade the snot out of her then? I have 11 months left on the warranty.
    I like this notebook al ot, so I plan to hang onto it for a couple years.
     
  24. Szadek

    Szadek Notebook Geek

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    Upgrading memory and HDD wouldn't void the warranty.
    Only if you do, and then have issues and send it in for repair, and the memory or hard drive are at fault, you would be billed for the repair.
    As far as the CPU, only if they realize you upgraded it. Also, I'd check the system board specs to make sure it's upgradable to the CPU you want.