HP 6500t vs Lenovo T61

1. 5400RPM HDD 320GB vs.7200 RPM 100GB
2. Camera vs. No camera
3. 2GB RAM Max vs. 4GB RAM.
4. No 802.11n wireless vs. 802.11n
5. Sexier finish vs. Standard black.
6. 15.4 screen vs. 14' as of now.
7. Different battery lives?
8. Different graphics card (cant make out which is better)
9. Lenovo is about 200-300$ more expensive.

 

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The T61 will have a better build quality/more durable then the HP and is more mobile(easier to travel with) then the HP. Also the NVIDIA Quadro NVS 140M should perform better in games and in business/graphic/3d modeling application the the GMAx3100

 

Keep in mind there is no 5400RPM 320GB hdd. It's a typo. Other than that I'd probably suggest getting the T61. It will be much better quality-wise. Also the graphics card of the Lenovo is better than the go7400 in the HP. Of course this would only matter if you're a gamer. If you want, you can fill out the FAQ.

 

oh it isnt 5400? then what is it? every website incl hpshopping has it.

if lenovo (no longer IBM branded) is better than HP, why is everyone buying HP?

 

i think its what is more important.. durability wise it's the lenovo but looks it's hp. It seems like people like the hp look over the lenovo

 

The HPs used to be the best value. Not so much the last few days

 

Comparing the Pavillion range against the T61 is like comparing apples and oranges, thus the T61 has an unfair advantage. The T61 should be compared against the HP Compaq 8710p/w because they're both enterprise grade systems. Lenovo's Y series is the one that you should use as a basis of comparison against the Pavillion models.

 

what he means is that its not a 320GB drive as there is no such drive available yet. a 250GB drive has just been announced by Hitachi I think so how can HP have a drive that doesnt exist yet (unless theyve invented time travel)

also the 6500t doesnt have a go7400, it will probably come with a 8400M in about a month though.

4GB of RAM is useless unless you are going to use a 64bit Windows which is not for everybody

 

Answered in no particular order...

- Both will have a camera.
- The NVS 140M on the T61 is equal to the 8400M that will be on the dv6500t
- Both are upgradeable to 4gb of memory (2x2gb sodimms), whether or not you need or can use this is another issue.
- Personally, I find the 14" is to be the sweet spot for portability and screen size.
- Battery lives should be roughly the same with 6 cells. The T61 can have a 7 cell and 3 cell modular battery for a total of 10 cells, while the HP has an optional 12 cell battery.
- The price difference between the Thinkpad and HP is absolutely justified by the difference in quality and materials. Thinkpads are generally built to last. But the HP does look better. ^_^

 

You sure about that? I though the HP consumer line kept the 2GB limit on the refreshed machines (excluding the new HDX).

 

Because they're cheaper ... duh!

 

About the drive, hp is showing 320gb 7200rpm which it wins if its true.
Camera is really just a nice to have not really used that much unless you are going to be video conferencing on the road.
The ram limit is annoying since I believe the previous poster is right hp just limited it on their consumer line even tho the motherboard/chipset can handle it.
The hp DOES have 802.11n (draft).
Looks wise its no contest. Until thinkpads get an upgraded look they will still look like work machines.
14" screen size is probably fine for single user but a little small if you want to show people stuff. 15.4" looks more impressive but you pay in size and weight so its a personal decision here.
The lenovo is probably justified at $200-$300 more due to its increased durability. Like one said, its a workhorse. The hp has the same power as long as you take care of it.

Personally I chose the hp because of the price value and looks.

 

yeah but why would u buy something its cheaper knowing its inferior? DUH!

 

Probably all consumer notebooks are inferior in build quality to a ThinkPad. Anyway, consumer notebooks generally sell based on pricepoint above anything else.

 

im not an expert but whats wrong with the HP build quality? what specifically does one mean while referring to it?

 

There is nothing wrong with the build quality in HP's consumer notebooks for general use, if you take into consideration that you are getting many features that would cost much more in a business notebook like ThinkPad.

For a simplistic example of build quality/durability: Drop a Pavilion on the concrete and then do the same with the ThinkPad. The HP will likely crack and/or break, while the Lenovo may just suffer some scuff marks.

Granted, HP does have a seperate line of business notebooks to compete with the Thinkpad, but the Pavilion/Presario lines are not among them.

http://www.hp.com/sbso/busproducts_notebooks.html

 

The value of Thinkpad's durability cashes in when you carry it around a lot, and drop it on the ground. Many lappies pass its life span without being dropped once.

After 5 years, any computer is basically disposable no matter how durable it is.

 

Then don't drop it. ;-)

I hate Thinkpad T43p's fan noise. Thinking of that fan noise can still trigger a repulsive reflex.

HP Pavilion's speakers are much better than those on Thinkpads.

 

Very true. My ThinkPad T20 was still durable the day I chucked it into the trash.

 

It's alloyed case and chassis. That's it.
All the internal hardware are the same. So if you want to use a Thinkpad as a brick to hit somebody, it serves the purpose better than HP.

 

Or you could use a brick as a brick to hit someone #1 it looks like what it will be used for #2 it will be heavier hence will do a better job of smashing the poor fool's face in #3 bricks cost less