HP 8510p available!

Now quickly, go buy it and get us a review of this baby!
I'd do it myself but it's not available in my country yet

 

I just purchased one this morning for a very reasonable price; ESD August 11th.

 

Yea its a very reasonable price:

T7500, hd2600 256mb, 160gb 5400rpm, WSXGA+, 8-cell, 3 year warranty for $1479.

It only comes with 1gb of RAM but you can upgrade yourself by buying 2gb RAM online for <$100.

 

I really can't wait for the reviews of this laptop. If the x2600 performs like a 8600 gs and if the screen is bright enough (the review of the 8510w scared me a bit about that) then i'm definitely buying it.

I can get this configuration in my country:
HP 8510p

-2.0 GHz Core Duo T7300 Santa Rosa
-2 GB RAM
-120 GB hd (5400rpm)
-ATI X2600
-15.4" WSXGA+ (1680x1050)
-3 years On-Site waranty
-Vista Home Basic s but i have Vista Business at home)
-3 years of insurance (against theft and accidental damage) from an insurance company from my country

Price : 1700 EUR (the 3 years of insurance add 300 EUR, so the base system costs 1400 EUR)

 

Wow...those prices are amazing. Seems like HP really hit it if the 2600 is a good fighter.

My nc8430 is scared it is going to be replaced sooner rather than later
It still uses the same keyboard from the 8510w though, excellent keyboard but still a downgrade from my nc8430's keyboard.

 

Where is the link? I cant find it from HP's main page.

 

Nevermind. I found it.

The 8710p looks nice too.

 

What is the difference between WSXGA+ and WSXGA+ with wide viewing angle anti glare? I am not really sure..also which is the better way to go?

 

Oh man, I'm really tempted to order this (It was my first choice until I read it wasnt coming out till september, and then ordered a thinkpad (see sig)) becasue my thinkpad isn't going to get here till like 2010.

 

Seriously Mackey that is one bad post! What you shouldve said was "Now go buy ME one". That way the buyer MIGHT be generous enough to oblige and give you one OR he might buy one for himself, either way you kinda win

 

Only thing I want to know is how the 2600 is. And of course, the spec sheets of the 2600 and 2600XT are the same.

 

I'm seriously considering one of these. My T61p has been delayed [like t1mmer and everyone elses...]

 

Was there ever a review done on the 8510w? Considering it will likely have everything else the same except for the GPU, correct?

 

http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=3862

 

yup the 8510w has got a good review so this should be good too. kinda frustrating that there arent any reviews on the GPU eh

 

Kelch, what was your T61p build? For me, the cheapest 8510p is pretty much the same, except for hard drive. Plus I was reading somewhere that HP doesn't charge taxes except for some states, and PA was one of the no-tax states. I don't know how accurate this is though.

 

The 8510p is still pretty steep on the price. You have to spend well over 2k to get the 2.2ghz with a 7200rpm harddrive, dvd burner, and 2 gigs of ram...and still no n card. The t61p can be had will all these options for under 2k. If the gpu cant deliver to 8600gt graphical standards...I do not know if this is such a great deal. What do you all think?

 

Nice to hear that the 8510p is now available. Too bad that class of 2011 (this fall's freshmen at my college) are still going to get nw8440s (albeit with T7600 C2Ds and 2GB RAM). Oh well. They'll be complaining when they become seniors.

To clarify, where I go to college, not only do you need a laptop, you must buy the exact specified Laptop package from the college. Although the model changes every year, you don't purchase a new laptop unless your laptop gets lost/stolen/broken/etc.

 

For me, the least expensive 8510p is very similar to the T61p that I ordered. Only difference is no N and a 160.5400 hdd in the HP instead of a 100.7200 hdd in the T61 i ordered.

 

I'm still going to hold out for the T61p for a little longer though.

 

Ok I'm somewhat disappointed since it lists WXGA screens as an option, but all they have are pre-config models with WSXGA.

 

Well, WSXGA+ are better in terms of quality than WXGA;
and there is no difference between WSXGA+ and WSXGA+ anti-glare with wide viewing angles. Just two different names for the same panel.

 

True, but I prefer the lower resolution.

 

If there is no difference, then why in the world do they write it for 2 configurations, and the others just say WSXGA+? I am just a bit confused here. If it is the same, as you say, then why write it for some and not others?

Does anybody know if they give student discounts for business line notebooks from hp? I know lenovo does it..but cannot seem to do it with HP...perhaps if you call them and state you are a student the will give a discount?

 

According to the stickied thread, HP only offers discounts to home and home office lines, not business. If you call you may get a better outcome though.

 

Awesome. For $1480, HP pretty much nailed a pretty good MSRP for this notebook. Now all we need to do is wait for resellers to sell it below that.

 

My T61p build is as follows...

C2D T7500 (2.2)
512MB Ram [Will upgrade to 4GB myself]
80gb 5.4k [will upgrade to Hitachi 7K200]
Vista Home Basic [I get an Ultimate license through school]
Atheros ABG Wireless
CD/DVD-RW
9 Cell

Total for that came to 1284.00, add in 2 year thinkpad protection plus tax and the total was 1445.00 I'll be getting about 50.00 back from fatwallet, and an additional 100.00 back for tailormade.

End cost after I get all my money back, and I upgrade both the hard drive and ram will be about 1725.00. Not bad for what is basically a top of the line machine. Unfortunately the HP prices don't even come close.

 

Do you have to buy anything from fatwallet, and tailormade to get lenovo discounts? How exactly does one use these websites to get moneyback, and what exactly are you signing up for when doing this?

 

Tailormade is a discoutn provided directly by American Express. You have to sign up for the tailormade program. To get the fatwallet discount you have to register and then click through a link to get to the lenovo website.

There aren't any tricks or catches in either program that I know of.

 

Wow I'm really surprised at the price...I figured the base config would be $1599.

Makes me kind of sad that I already gave up on waiting and got a Latitude D830...especially since the quadro nvs 140m has been annoying me to no end with its drivers. and inability to decode h264 in windows xp (although I don't know if the hd 2600 can do that either).

Although, since that's the only aspect that I have issues with (believe it or not, but I kind of like the screen on my D830, despite some light leakage at the bottom), I guess I shouldn't brood too much over missing out on the 8510p...and I did save a little bit of money with that path (although not as much as I thought I would have).

Oh, and I heard somebody managed to get a student discount by ordering over the phone...I forget who it was, though.

 

KelchM: Yeah the price of the thinkpad will be cheaper for now because you can customize it. RAM, HD, and the warranty will bring down the price quite a bit. I think a fair comparison can be made only once the 8510p becomes customizable or by comparing the cost of a similar system through only lenovo and not including online dealers. For instace, we all know companies over-charge on RAM compared to a place like newegg.

 

There is a mess in HP; you can get different names for the same parameter; I'm already used to it... If you have a look at technical specifications of WSXGA+ in QuickSpecs, you will find only one WSXGA+ option for 8510w...

 

That 5.9 WEI score for the graphics card really impressed ME...

I keep wondering, however, why the RAM comes in at just 4.7 for these PC 5300 SODIMMs HP is using...

I have PC2 5300 DIMMS in my Dell XPS 410 I'm typing this on, and it scores 5.6 on the Windows Experience Index... How can there be THAT big of a difference in WEI scores between two different TYPES of RAM of the same speed and basic architecture with one just being desktop and the other notebook? Is that sort of performance decrease between desktop and laptop RAM common?
Jeff

P.S. Most of the OTHER laptops HP has with PC 5300 SODIMMs in them ALSO score 4.7 (like the dv9500t -- interestingly, the slow consumer version dv9535nr available at Best Buy scores even lower -- 4.5, I think, even though it has the SAME SPEED SODIMMs in it). I used to think RAM was RAM... Guess not.

 

Jeff, the 5.9 for the graphics is for the nVidia 570m, which is only available in the 8510w...unless you know of a test that was done on the p model.

 

Has anybody ordered the 8510p yet?

 

apparently eli did. If I can't get things straightened out with Lenovo, theres a good chance I will too.

 

I really want to know how the ATI card stacks up against the 8600gt/quadro570. Eli...keep us posted on when you will be receiving it...as I am very close to making the plunge (cannot wait for the v1s forever).

 

Hey Guys,

I'll let you know when I get it. I was in the debate as well with this and the T61p. For me, it helped that HP could get this to me next week when I needed a laptop before the end of August.

Eli

 

I was wondering the same thing. I just received my 8510w yesterday. It has one stick of 2gb hynix memory and scores 4.7. I added a corsair valueselect 1gb which brought it up to 4.8. I have another 1gb stick coming in the mail for a friend, I will try it without the hynix module and see what I get. What is a good and simple memory benchmark utility? From what I read the WEI score is nothing to gauge things by.

 

As rather STERNLY explained to me by Orev in another thread, WEI is NOT a true benchmark because it's a "relative gauge" of how five various system components work to implement Vista's Aero interface... The higher the score, the better Aero will function, is how I understand it, and essentially that's ALL WEI is really good for measuring.

The reason it's a "relative gauge" is that unlike true "Benchmarks," which can have a score that just continues to go up, WEI has a top score of 6.0, which means that Windows has to keep re-adjusting what each .1 point is equal to based on the relative performance levels of the entire field of components available, so as time passes, the 5.3 overall score my system currently gets should go lower, as system components get faster (at least that's the working theory).

HOWEVER, at any given "snapshot in time," WEI SHOULD (at least in MY opinion) give a fairly even comparison between different components and systems, and so the question STILL REMAINS: "Why does PC 5300 RAM get a 5.6 in my desktop, a 4.7 in the dv9500 and a 4.5 in the dv9535?" In the case of the laptop vs. the desktop I can imagine a few explanations. However, between the 9500 and the 9535, BOTH use the Santa Rosa chipset and BOTH have PC 5300 SODIMMs (perhaps HP used better quality DIMMs on the 9500??? -- it's really HARD to get serious information on technical aspects of the RAM installed in particular systems unless you own those systems, and sometimes even then)... It's just really hard to say.

Interesting questions, at any rate, huh?
Jeff

 

Well, I doubt the HD 2600 will beat the Quadro 570m. Those guessing it will be between the 8600 GS and GT are probably right, but who knows. I'm actually more curious as to whether HP is putting DDR2 or DDR3 in their business laptop Radeons. If it's DDR3 we might see some real competition (maybe!)...

( http://ati.amd.com/products/mobilityradeonhd2600/specs.html "128-bit 4-channel DDR2/GDDR3 memory interface")


Anyway, originally I was torn between the 8510p and the t61p, but...estimated shipping if I bought the Lenovo would be mid September at the earliest. According to HP, my 8510p would ship next Tuesday. So yeah, GG to my Thinkpad dreams.

Also! I dunno about everyone else, but the t61p I configure comes out to 1650ish before tax/shipping. The RM269UT 8510p I'm looking at comes out to 1479. Maybe I'm missing a few coupons, I dunno

 

any ideas when (if ever) we can customize either the 8510p or 8510w, rather than purchasing the pre-configured models?

 

If HP's use of GDDR3 in the 6910p is anything to go by, I'd assume they would continue to use GDDR3 for the 8x10p/w

 

The rep I talked to said mid-August to customize a 8510p. So maybe next week. I'm really looking forward to it so I can get a WXGA. It makes no sense to me why they didn't have a WXGA preconfig.

 

Its available in NZ with the WXGA (there are just two models available in NZ at the moment!) so it should be an option elsewhere.

 

this is a really attractive notebook...considering that I need a notebook by the end of August and the complains about t61 ship dates...hopefully hp will soon allow customization on the 8510p and there be more info on the hd2600 card. So far all the focus seems to be on the nvidia cards.

 

Figures that the computer I had originally waited months for would come out a week after I got my Asus. Oh well. I'm sure it'll be a nice machine, and it's not like I really settled.

 

Where are you located, Wilsonywx?

I ask this because I understand folks OUTSIDE the U.S. have A LOT of issues about getting what they want, but if you're INSIDE the U.S., I was just at my local Sam's Club today (which not only moved WHERE their laptops were, but also changed the SELECTION), and the one on the far right was a Lenovo Thinkpad t61... Is THAT the computer of which you speak? If so, you generally you can't beat a Sam's Club price, and they generally have pretty decent stock and you should be able to just walk in and get one.

Even if you're NOT a member, it would be worth buying a membership just for that one purchase... Or if you live in an area with a Sam's Club, my bet is that you'll know someone who IS a member if you're not... I also believe you can search their website without being a member, so you might want to check it out.

Good luck,
Jeff

 

Hello all,

I'm seriously considering to order a 8510p. Does anyone here know if it's possible to use *two* external displays on this laptop, with/without a docking station? Currently I have two 1280x1024 VGA monitors. Would it be possible to somehow connect one of them to the HDMI port, and the other to the VGA port?

I guess one possibility would be to use something like the "Matrox dualhead2go", but as far as I can understand by studying the HD 2600 specs, the VGA output only supports 2048x1536 resolution.

 

I do not see a reason why dual-screens wouldn't work! You might want a HDMI->VGA adapter but that would be about it.