HP 8540w and others are nearly here

Yep the new line form the 8530w and so on are more less here.
I guess the focal point around the unit is the graphics card at the moment because we no what it will have besides the GPU.

The two choices will be the quadro fx 880m 1GB DDR3 or the the quadro fx 1800m which will be boasting 1GB GDDR5.

respectively the 8440p will have NVS 3100 512mb GDDR3
The 8440w will have the quadro fx 380m 512mb GDDR3

8540p will have NVS 5100. not stated the memory etc so i assume again 512mb and GDDR3


my guess is:

NVS 3100m= 9500m G
QFX 380m= 310m
NVS 5100m= 9600m GT/130m GT
QFX 880m= 230m GT/240m GT/330m GT
QFX 1800m= QFX 2700m/9700m GTS

Theses predictions are not based on the actual spec of the card but the performances comparable to.


So far performances equal:
QFX 380m = 3D 06 score just above 9500m G (same resolution) Dated 15/1/2010
NVS 5100m = 3D 06 score just 300 above the GT 130m (same resolution) dated 23/1/2010

 

Thanks for the news. What's the source? I'm still waiting for the 8740w...

 

source is from the hp website. i had to check it out from the usa site as they get stuff 1st.
i did look out for the 8740w. theres nothing yet but no doubt that will come with the quadro 3800m 1gb in gddr3 and ill assume they may use the gddr5 but no mention of it. im not sure of the alternative they will use as they usually do. if its ati then it could be the ati firepro m7740 respectively.

 

the 8440w with the high res 14" screen looks quite appealing

if anyone is looking for a bargain I've seen many 8530w's and Lenovo W500's going for <800-900 bucks on ebay (new)

 

The lack of an ATI option is disappointing. While the nvidia's were faster for this current gen (Quadro FX vs. 3650/V5700), the ATI 5xxx series seems to be pretty awesome. I also wish they kept the 16:10 but I guess it was inevitable.

 

Thanks sisqo, I expect the same. Note that the 8740w will be a direct competitor of the Dell Precision M6500 (as the 8730w was of the M6400), and it's desireable that the 8740w will have the Quadro FX3800M, the DreamColor display as the 8730w and SSD options too (missing in the 8730w AFAIK).

 

yea i agree to the posts with the 8740w and the comment to the 5xxx series in the notebook. id love a 5 series but i think all the big 3 hp, lenovo and dell are using nvidia on there refresh. in the 14" and 15.6" models.

If i had still only had my 8510w or T61p and never purchased my 8530w forcing me to sell both then i think id prob select the the 8540w or W510 for the quadro FX 880m. but it dont think the gpu increase is that much for me to just dump my notebook after a year.

unless i could get the 8540w with the 1800m and i7 core then if i can afford it at the time im sold cos i can make prob the same cash i paid for this. lol i might even keep the drive when selling it and replace it with the new one cos i aint splashing for a bluray burner in that lol.

 

Still got my trusty 8510w, so the 8540w will be a major consideration for me.
Especially if it has the same port for my docking station.

 

So, the 8540w 880 and 1800 are both better than the 4550 in the 6540?

By what margin? And.. does anyone have any remote idea of what HP would make pricing of that unit?

The entire difference between the 8540w and 6540 is video card and usb 3.0, yes? And NO resolution options on the 8540w?

Thanks

 

What model exactly is the 6540? The FX 880M and FX 1800M are massively better in pretty much all respects than the HD 4550. The 4550 is 64-bit GDDR3, the 880 is 128-bit GDDR3, and the 1800 is 128-bit GDDR5. Also, the latter two are even better in CAD and other optimized programs, since they are workstation cards. The 8540W has resolution options, up to 1920x1080.

 

Ooh. My bad - I had looked at the wikipedia entry on it which was nondescript in terms of the details of those 2 cards. I however, don't really do CAD, but I do however import, edit, and convert video. Video gaming would be a nice ability but I don't play things like crisis - more interested in Diablo-III when it comes out. Also, on my 3650 video card in my T500, it is slow at initializing video and during the first 6 seconds of playback.. I presume these would not be problems within the 8540w? And, the glitchy initial playback problem is new as of Win7, on WinXP it was perfect.

 

http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_quadro_fx_1800_m_us.html

In looking at that page, it ceases to make sense to my why I can't buy just any old notebook and CHANGE the graphics card. SO! frustrating that its grounds to inflate the cost of the whole notebook by 1000+ dollars for something that probably costs the mfg 150, but because of who it is targeted at they gouge you because you need it and probably make money off of it. Is it REALLY that impossible to find these cards for sale ala carte? Example...

http://cgi.ebay.com/NVidia-Quadro-F...emQQptZPCC_Video_TV_Cards?hash=item5636e66059

So why buy a 8540w when I could theoretically get a 6540 and add a good video card to it..? Is there something I'm missing?

 

does your laptop use a quadro fx with the same form factor? I'm sure they're removable but they're useless if your laptop can't fit it.

 

well, what what form factor does the 6540 use for video?

 

I just checked the HP.com and neither 8540w, 8540p or 6540 have their service manuals posted yet. Without those someone would have to manually open one laptop to see if the graphics adapter is MXM-type-something or just a chip soldered on the motherboard.

Then there's the small issue of bios whitelists... Thanks to those, I can't upgrade my 8510w with anything as laptop won't boot with cards not in the list.

 

And last but CERTAINLY not least.. this here is a svet deal.

http://cgi.ebay.com/NVidia-GTX-280M...emQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item4ced0cdb85

So.. it seems theres a fair number of opportunities for improved graphics cards to add-on to notebooks. Im tired of being gouged for being presumed to profit off of a so-called-workstation. Good graphics card and high quality keyboard... ooh, well, thats uh.. thats gonna cost ya. Whats it worth to ya, eh?

 

Holy CRAPOLA!!! IT WILL NOT BOOT UNLESS ITS WHAT THEY LIMITED YOUR OPTIONS TO AT PURCHASE? Thats criminal. Dictating HOW you use what YOU own. Grrr!!!

 

Almost limited, at least with 8510p (HD2600) and 8510w (FX570), you could change graphic adapters between those 2 models because that was the only actual difference.

If I remember right, this is similar between 8530p and w versions and it would probably be with 8540p and w too. When those service manuals are posted, it will be simple to check part numbers on motherboards. If p and w share same boards, it should be able to uprade from p to w (graphics-wise, that is).

 

someone should set up an operation to hack these bioseseeseses and make them user friendly. who wants someone elses stank all over their new toy? i mean come oooon!

 

BTW.. I bought a display port --> HDMI adapter and it didn't work on my T500.. think this one will be just as non-compliant? And which of the cards below do you think the 880 and 1800 are roughly comparable to? As best I can tell based on cuda cores... since they don't include apples to apples.. but it seems like the GeForce GT 335M is the closest to the 1800M .. agreed? Check out these two links and perhaps see what Im overlooking in the comparative..

http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_quadro_fx_1800_m_us.html

http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_geforce_gt_335m_us.html

 

Aside from the video card options what else is different the P and W options?

 

the chassis is different in appearance from what I can tell. As for the video cards, I would not say they're a good comparison since the 1800M in the 8540w will be using GDDR5 ram which will out perform much anything GDDR3 does and the 1800M is OpenGL 3.2 compliant while the other is only 2.1 compliant. Seems like there isn't much to compare it to right now but if past performance is any indicator, it will hold its own whether using it for CAD or playing a top tier video game.

 

I really hope they come out next week. I'm itching for the ability to get my work done at home lol....sigh...

 

Not going to happen.

That would be a surprising change from previous generation Elitebooks.

As for upgrading your notebook's GPU, it's not as simple as plug and play. Aside from the differences in sockets, there's also the issue of whether your BIOS will recognize the card, or whether or not your laptop can support the heat generated. For the cost of the GTX280M, you'd be better off buying a GTX 280m equipped machine in the first place.

 

Its not like there are desirable notebooks WITH the 280M ... and plus, I want a number pad in a 15.6" with USB 3.0, an i7, and a GOOD keyboard. Apparently I have to get raped to have that combination. Eh... they know what I want.

 

Any idea why the Canadian website would show a 2/1 release date, while the US site still just says "Coming Soon"? Would HP really take orders in Canada before the US?

 

You made my day, I know what I'm ordering on the 1st...

 

Any idea when the 17" one is coming out??

 

There is no release date yet, but it's expected on february (or on march!)

 

I'm barely surviving on a HP tc4200 that's getting slower and slower! I need power!

 

I'm really interested in the 8540w model with 1600x900 and besides all the great features it will include I'm really happy that hp decided to keep the right hand side clear of usb ports. Since I'm right handed and tend to always have some usb plugged in charging or synching it annoys me that I have to compete for mouse position and the plugs. With that said I'm wondering if there are any similar spec'd laptops coming out soon? (15" 1600x900 i7)

Thanks

 

Dell Precision M4500 and Lenovo W510 will compete with the HP Elitebook 8540w, while the Dell Latitude E6510 and Lenovo T510 will compete with the HP Elitebook 8540p.

 

Has Dell even announced a M4500 yet?

 

Just wait a couple more days (hopefully information will be disseminated on time)

 

I looked up the W510, it seems mediocre compare to the 8540w specs. I would actually buy a w510 if it had the fx880 or fx1800 card in it, but they're all nvs 5100m cards. Doesn't seem appropriate for a workstation laptop does it?

 

Thanks! I'll keep eye for those as well.

 

W510 has the FX880.

 

Hmm I was toying with configurations last night the only option was the 5100m...maybe it changed?

 

I seem to recall some discussion in the W510 owners lounge about what GPU actually shipped with that model, regardless of what the Lenovo website showed.

 

If you go through the owner's lounge in the Lenovo subforum you will see people posting their receipts that include a FX880.

 

Oh I was talking about the w510 vs the 8540w and making the point that the now available w510 comes with a subpar video card for CAD and photo/video manipulation, which in my eyes doesn't make it a workstation notebook just z really expensive business notebook.

 

Cool looks like the drivers and manual are up now for the 8540w and 8540p. Another step closer... Monday?

 

Man I hope so!!!!!

 

From the other thread:

Says "Coming Feb 1st"

 

They're here! Unfortunately, it doesn't appear that there is a CTO option yet.

http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF25a/321957-321957-64295-3740645-3955549-4096175.html

 

Yeah they're everything I don't want...I'll wait til the 1080p screen i7-720qm and the fx1800m show up. Hopefully by the end of the week...probably longer though.

 

they're up in the US now. pre-config with i5 and i7-620 only.

 

Has anyone seen information about RGB gamut covered by the 8540w's full HD dsplay? I plan to do a lot of photo editing, including working with RAW files, so color accuracy is important. Calibration is essential, but it goes only so far if the screen isn't capable of displaying most or all of the RGB gamut.

 

I think I read the FHD 1080p display has 95% gamut but don't quote me on that I may be mixing up my laptops

 

Anyone know why they do that? Honestly of all the choices they offer how many online buyers do they expect to go "ok I'll take the lowend screen and the weaksauce processor" it's like they're taunting us. Sigh...