HP Cheating on Turion laptop Batteries

I read in few threads before about battery being smaller capacity in Turion laptops. But I thought, may be just people were guessing. I never thought HP will go as far as making similar batteries with lower capacity specially for Turion.

But I now I know it directly, It is so disgusting HP( and Intel) going with such lousy politics. They do not want Turion laptops to do same as Intel laptop in battery life, so simply put smaller battery.

So, which batteries I am talking about?

DV1000/V2000 and V2000z/L2000.

DV1000 and V2000 comes with Batteries
rated at 10.8v 4400mAH,
where as simlilar( exact same fit and size) battery in
L2000/V2000z comes with
rating 10.8v with 4000mAH,

so directly 10% lower capacity than Intel model. That translates into 20min of battery life and that is the difference in battery life we are seeing between Intel and Turion models.

Ofcourse I know HP does not advertise Turion models at all, that is fine probably they do not have marketing money from AMD, but I think going this far to show AMD Turion inferior in battery life is down right disgusting.

It is really unfortunate that a superior product is not being given a proper chance to prove it.

 

Maybe Intel has something to do with it. ;-)

sounds class action lawsuit. ;-)

 

For what it's worth, my v2405ca (v2000z - Sempron 3000+) comes equipped with a 10.8V 4.4 AHr/4400 mAHr battery.

The battery module model is: HSTNN-LB09

 

Is it the spec on the battery?

If so, it is possible, it might have been mistaken. Because all L2000/V2000z notebooks sofar I have seen/heard only came with 4000mAH.

 

My v5000z has a 12 cell battery rated at 10.8v 8.8AHr.

 

Yes, the AHr rating and the model number are printed on the battery.

It would be interesting if other Canadian V24xx series owners could chime in. Interestingly the Pentium M/Celeron M V2000 models were never available in Canada.

 

Hmm,

It is possible. But I am also guessing may be this has been done with laptops having Turions, not the Semprons.

 

I think HP started switching the AMD machines over to the proper 4.4AHr batteries after they were caught. Has anyone who purchased a V2000z or L2000 this year received the 4.0AHr battery?

partsurfer.hp.com lists both 4.0AHr and 4.4AHr batteries as official parts.

 

Mine came with 10.8V 4.0AHr.

When did they change it? can we get it replaced? My v2000z was delivered mid-Dec. 2005.

I didn't know they changed it. All the while I thought all V2000Z only comes with 4.0AHr battery

 

I bought in september and has 10.8V 4.0aAHr battery.

But I checked DV1000 and some V2000 models in local stores, they do have proper 4.4Ahr battery.

And these two are interchangable without any problem as they sell same battery for DV1000 as well as L2000 which is 4.4Ahrs.

Yes, it is possible they might have changed to proper 4.4Ahr battery this year.

May be we can create a poll with Year and Capacity of the battery for V2000z and L2000 and see the responses.

 

Oh come on.. It clearly states the capacity on the HP store (Edit: Not true).. Its your own fault for not investigating on your own.. If HP advertised selling 4400maH batteries in a laptop and gave you a 4000maH, then I'd understand a serious problem here.. But I don't see HP making that claim at all.. Nor am I seeing HP saying that their Intel laptops are better than the Turions or vice versa..

It's ridiculous to think that HP has a grudge against Turion.. If they did, they could just be like Dell and not even offer the Turions.. You seem to imply that there is a conspiracy going on.. I see no reason to believe so.

I have a Compaq v4000t with an Intel processor and an X700 graphics card. Guess what? It's a 4.0 Amp hour battery!! It clearly says so on the battery (I just took it out).. To think that there is some conspiracy to make AMD look bad is just absurd..

Hopefully the other v4000t owners will post here and you'll see that the battery size has nothing to do with which CPU it is... So far, the only thing you've discovered is that it APPEARS that the Compaq laptops have 4.0 amp hours, and the Pavillions have the 4.4 Amp hours.. Which is understandable because the Pavillions cost more.. I bought a Compaq v4000t instead of a dv4000 because the Compaq was cheaper.

Edit: Btw.. I bought my v4000t half a month ago..

Edit: Actually the mAH Capacities aren't on the HP store.. Not for the pavillions and not for the Compaqs. Still, I see no reason for concern here..

 

What do you know about how far this guys can go? Did you ever see any HP advertisement with Turion processor? Even in HP sent news letter you will only find Intel(including dekstops, not even single AMD product has been mentioned).

And where do you say it is mentioned as 4.0Ahr? In V2000z/L2000 specifications? can you show me where they has 4.0Ahr specification mentioned for Turion? I did read about it, but never thought they will resort to something like this. Why they have two specs? I have not seen DV1000 with 6-cell 4.0AHr battery anytime before.( I had seen quitefew). Yes, I do not know if they started shipping with 4.0AHr batteries with Core Duo this year.

BTW why do they make same 6-cells with same voltage 10.8v with different AHr ratings?

 

I'm far from certain that they have changed it. Whether you get 4.0AHr or 4.4AHr may be luck of the draw. HP may be using different suppliers for the two batteries. I doubt we'll hear an official excuse from HP. I do know that there is only one 12 cell capacity (8.8AHr) so that's another reason to go for that.

 

dv5000 purchased this weeks with 4000mAh battery...if anyone cares.

 

I do. Thanks for the info. I had thought HP was only playing this game on the V2000z/L2000 platform. Ugh. Yes, 12 cells are your friend.

 

Well, my V2000 order on 1/23/06 at office depot comes with the 4.4ahr battery.

 

My celeron V2000 purchased in November has a 10.8 4.0 Ahr

 

For celeron. Ok, anyone with P-M?
Based on pattern it looks like, it is random. But it is still beyond my understanding why they are getting same 6-cell, same model laptops with two different capacities. Does not make sense at all to me. You should leave customers to sheer luck.( OEM may be different but atleast capacity should be same).

How about for example, you buy a car, and you get a 14" tyres instead of 15" tyres randomly. That is so stupid. Yes, tire brands may change from batch to batch, or from factory to factory, but that does change the tyre size or ratings.

 

4.0AHr here. L2000 bought Oct 05.
I would be really surprised to see P-m v2000 with such a battery...

 

My V2000z that was delivered to me Feb 8 06 has a 10.8V at 4.4 AHr. I find it hard to believe there's some sort of conspiracy theory here. If anything they probably just want you to buy the 12 cell battery...

 

There is too big a difference between 4.0 and 4.4ahr to be equally priced. I don't care if it is a conspiracy or no, I want my 20 additional minutes