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    HP DV5T 9600M GT Overclock

    Discussion in 'HP' started by hasham11, Sep 30, 2008.

  1. hasham11

    hasham11 Notebook Consultant

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    Hi,

    People who have been successful in Overclocking their 9600M GT in their DV5ts, can you all pls post how did u do it, wat drivers did u use, and what software rivatuner or ntune.

    Also pls post the results and by how much did u manage to overclock your GPU.

    I know a lot of people who are trying to OClock their GPU but can't do it somehow, people say it is the v62.94.1a.0.18 GPU BIOS to blame which kinda has locked O'Clocking. Also people report and I have experienced this as well, that using Ntune (Either while installation or normal use), the laptop just freezes. Also the new version of NiBiTor 4.6 doesnt help and people including me get BSOD when trying to read the GPU BIOS.
     
  2. p1990

    p1990 Notebook Evangelist

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    The 9600M GT already runs burning hot in dv5 so i suggest you dont even get the thought of overclocking or you are really going to reduce the life span of the card...thanks to HP for the poor cooling mechanism..
     
  3. hasham11

    hasham11 Notebook Consultant

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    Well I do have a Zalman NC2000 Cooler
     
  4. Infamous22

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    Like that really makes a huge difference?

    I'm interested as well. I have the DV7.
     
  5. hasham11

    hasham11 Notebook Consultant

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    Well lets hope sumone finds a solution to it.
     
  6. mr__bean

    mr__bean Notebook Evangelist

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    Install the coolbits registry mod and then restart your computer, load up Nvidia Control panel and there should be a bit called "overclocking" click on that then accept that any damage is your fault xD and then click automatic overclocking, it should adjust the speed as it is needed and also to keep it running stable :)

    Or at least it used to on my old laptop with Nvidia 5200 :D
     
  7. uncming

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    I'm not so sure I'd overclock mine given 1)In a laptop heat is already an issue and 2) The numerous failures due to heat in the nvidia GPUs

    Is it worth this risk?
     
  8. ArchAngel777

    ArchAngel777 Notebook Evangelist

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    The 9600M GT in the DV5T is locked in BIOS. You cannot alter the speeds... You can try, but it doesn't work even if said program displays your new clocks. The BIOS keeps putting the clock right back where it should be.

    I think the only way people are going to get aroung this is to flash the Video BIOS with one that has been unlocked or hacked for a different frequency. Bummer too, because I really wanted to bring the DDR2 memory up from 400Mhz to around 500Mhz at the very least, which should provide a solid 15-20%performance boost alone since it is so starved for memory bandwidth.
     
  9. Zod.

    Zod. Notebook Guru

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    Even if you could your DV would burst into flames almost immediately.
     
  10. Harper2.0

    Harper2.0 Back from the dead?

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    you can use NTune to OC, though the newer drivers don't allow OCing. The last driver for me that allowed OCing was 169.04.
     
  11. Infamous22

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    ...or just buy a desktop with dual video cards.
     
  12. hasham11

    hasham11 Notebook Consultant

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    Yea HP is going to rls a new BIOS with overclocking function in it, this is good news :D
     
  13. firelord5000

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    Zalman only gona lower by 5-10 C assuming you undervolted. Not worth the risk to OC an already hot component, unless you are getting like under 80-85 C at max for whatever game you are playing.
     
  14. hasham11

    hasham11 Notebook Consultant

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    Max temp with zalman on Pro Evo 08 goes to 76c
     
  15. ArchAngel777

    ArchAngel777 Notebook Evangelist

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    Where did hear you that? It would be great if that were true, but somehow I don't think it is in HP's best interest to release such a BIOS.

    With that said, all of the heat comments are getting somewhat anoying. Increasing the memory clock alone wouldn't raise the TDP in any measurable way. Raising the clock and shader itself, would, but keep in mind this would be linear increase as no voltages are being increased, just the clock. So a 30 watt TDP might become a 35 watt TDP, but nothing that would cause the chip to fry.

    Keep in mind also that the DVT5 has two fan settings. Once the GPU hits 85c, it will kick into high mode until the temperature is below 80c. Even without the laptop raised, in ambient conditions of 22c, the fan, when on high, kept temperatures below 80c, which is perfectly safe for the GPU as they can reach 100c +. The 9600M GT is not believed to be one of the cards with the manufacturing defect, so I personally wouldn't mind overclocking mine. Also, if HP were to adjust the fan speed when they released an update to the BIOS, they could further reduce temperature. It isn't that the HP is designed bad at all, it is the balance between noise, thickeness of the laptop and temperature. They did a fine job with the DV5T in my opinion and contrary to what these forums are saying, it doesn't get that hot. It does get warm, but the laptop casing itself is barely warm to the touch except the top left underside, which is where the the hot air is exhausted.

    Besides, laptops evolve so fast that 3 years from now, it will be a peice of garbage anyway (hyperbole). It will be viewed as big, bulky and slow. Not to mention that the performance of integrated graphics will surpass it by then, and all that with costing substantially less.
     
  16. firelord5000

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    Thats true with any comps arch, not just laptops, and i'd says its 2 years if not less now days :)

    As for 76 C with Zalman, then go ahead.
     
  17. hasham11

    hasham11 Notebook Consultant

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    @ArchAngel
    There is this guy on laptopvideogo forums who has been emailing HP regarding the overclockig issue and HP emailed him back saying tht in the next bios rls, they have enabled the oc feature and the BIOS is due rls soon.
     
  18. Robin15

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    hehehehahaha, the highest temp Ive seen from my laptop is 72 C playing crysis :D :cool:
     
  19. Eason

    Eason Notebook Virtuoso

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    Has anybody succeeded in overclocking the 9600M here yet? There was a bios update released in november but I haven't been able to overclock with rivatuner.
     
  20. LeetPix

    LeetPix Notebook Guru

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    yea, ive overclocked my 9600m GT o_O, and it actually works, i use EVGA precision to overclock it to 650 core,1300 shader and 570 memory,and i set it to apply at windows start up and i use rivatuner 2.20 to force performance mode (power user> RivaTuner/NVIDIA/Overclocking > EnablePerfLevelForcing Value1 and UseAlternateStartupDaemon Value 1 and set both powermizer on A/C and Bat off using the powermizer switch program.. my current tempature while on idle/just browsing, msn ect is around 55c-58c, gaming it goes to around 75c-82c so its stable.

    my driver is DOX's 180.70 and i get around the high 5200 in 3dmark 06 (1280x800), it might not show as the new clocks in nvidia control panel and the front of gpuz, but evga precision, rivatuner 2.20 and gpuz's temprature monitor recognizes the new clocks, at first i thought..well looks like its not working..so i lowered everything in evga precision to the minimum and started 3dmark 06 and it was getting really bad fps, around 10-20 fps less than what i got on my overclocked settings, so people who wanna overclock their dv5t's just try that out.
     
  21. stonesrubber

    stonesrubber Notebook Consultant

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    LeetPix whats your rig's model number?and yes i too have heard that HP is soon going to release a BIOS with a provision for OC. But right now no matter what people say on this thread and no matter what stunts they try to pull off at the end of the day the the current BIOS in the dv5s and dv7s neatly resets your clock back to the stock speed. so don't bother trying it might prove fatal to your RIG.
     
  22. LeetPix

    LeetPix Notebook Guru

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    its on my sig, mine doesnt get restarted o_O, it actually gets diffrent fps if i set diffrent speeds for the core,shader and memory..ive done some testing on 3dmark 06 and it actually works, im pretty suprised noone else has managed to overclock theirs yet
     
  23. stonesrubber

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    So how much of a performance boost have you got so far? 10%, 20% 30%?
     
  24. LeetPix

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    well the only game considered graphics intensive that i play would be test drive unlimited, i got around 25-30fps with stock hp drivers and normal settings, now i get around 35-55fps with these drivers and the overclock (fps detection using fraps), i play at 1280x800 with 4x anti alising and low detail with no hdr, with hdr i got around 26-40fps on overclock and it was very jumpy on stock drivers i remember last time, probably around 15-25fps, but it kept lagging up and jumping around, googling 3dmark 06 scores for the hp dv5t, most people got around 4200 or something like that at my resolution, so i got over 1000 points from the overclock o_O
     
  25. stonesrubber

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    What drivers do u use? now....
     
  26. LeetPix

    LeetPix Notebook Guru

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    if u read my post on page 2 u should know >_>, DOX's custom 180.70
     
  27. stonesrubber

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    Have you tried running GTA 4 on your RIG? i ask because i am interested in knowing how it will run on a maxed out 9600M GT and right now only you seem to have the card overclocked.
     
  28. LeetPix

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    sadly i dont have that game, and i dont plan to buy it because of the problems ive heard of the game, oh yea my bios version is F.05, bios release date 20080608, well thats what it says on the hp system information, that might be the bios that allows overclocking
     
  29. stonesrubber

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    Quite unlikely because i have the same bios version and i have failed trying to overclock like a lot of other people on this forum.
     
  30. LeetPix

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    have u tried overclocking my way? download DOX's 180.70
    http ://www.laptopvideo2go.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=21982

    then download rivatuner 2.20 and evga precision and do what i did on page 2 of this thread
     
  31. stonesrubber

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    I think i'l try that . Do you have any pics of the increased clock speed on your 9600m GT on may be CPU Z CPUID or something? it will give a lot of users an exact indication of just how much it helps.
     
  32. Eason

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    Do you need to force performance mode / disable powermizer in order to overclock? I was worried about doing that because it makes the laptop hotter.

    edit: ok this is required: ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/softpaq/sp40001-40500/sp40066.exe

    old bios flash.

    The problem now is - I can't get the shader past 1280, it isn't recognized as able to go that high. Also, the box for "restore overclock settings after sleep" in RivaTuner is grayed out. Do I have to do it manually ever time?


    4744 in 3dmark06 @ 560 / 1300 / 443
    previously 4344


    HW Mon. temperatures:
    GPU 58 value, 50 min, 79 max.
    CPU 48/40/67

    Note I have also undervolted from 1.250 to 1.050 on every clock.

    edit: 4834 @ 580 / 1300 / 450
    temps: 59/50/80 GPU
    48/40/68 CPU

    Think 80 C is a safe temp for sustained gaming? (2-3 hours?)

    edit: update from the other thread I am now safely at 650/1550/486, 5018 3dmarks. Any higher than 486 and my memory artifacts to hell.
     
  33. Cammeron Johnson

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    I know generally its considered unsafe to overclock the cpu in a laptop but hey its unsafe to overclock the GPU too SO anyone tried overclocking there cpu? and has anyone been able to get the P7350 2.O To the P8400 2.26?
    or the P8400 2.26 to the P8600 2.4... or the P8600 2.4 to the 2.53 value of the T9400 (heres my list)

    P7350 2.0Ghz to P8400 2.26Ghz
    P8400 2.26Ghz to P8600 2.4Ghz
    P8600 2.4Ghz to T9400 2.53Ghz


    After that has anyone benchmarked them?

    Btw before someone mentions it I know the Clock speed isnt all that matters and that the T9400 has a 6mb cache while the others are 3mb.


    (Btw you can use Ntune to overclock the CPU but it restores after every restart)


    Ntune Download ---> http://www.nvidia.com/object/ntune_5.05.54.00.html
     
  34. cwunch

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    This is what I have been thinking about...

    overclocking the cpu and the rams... please help