Envy 14 slide show: HP ENVY 14
Envy 14 dimensions: 9.3 x 14 x 1.1 inches ; 14.5" Screen; 5.2 pounds
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F.A.Q.: By poster - Htwingnut
CPU - that's the toughest because it all depends on what you want to do with your PC but here's my summary:
i3 - dual core, multithreaded, integrated GPU, no Turbo Boost. Ok for basic desktop tasks like web browsing, flash, MS Office, and some gaming.
i5 - dual core, multithreaded, integrated GPU, Turbo Boost. i5-430 and 450 are similiar CPUs but the 450 is newer and has slightly faster clock speed. Performance between the two in general is probably less than 10%. i5-520m offers some additional instructions for hardware virtualization and AES encryption which just aid in processing more quickly with a few other benefits
i7 - quad core, multithreaded, no integrated GPU, Turbo Boost - Quad core is powerful, capable of processing eight threads simultaneously, clock speeds generally slower than an i5, but have advantage of processing more threads. No integrated GPU means less battery life because it will be using the dedicated GPU all the time. Most likely 50% less battery life.
Screen - 1366 x 768 brightview or 1600x900 Radiance. The radiance is top of class.
Note: Amazon is selling the HP ENVY 14-1010NR (WQ784UA#ABA) = 1366 x 768. Non-Radiance display.
Hard Drive / SSD - Hard Drives = cheap, effective storage while adding noise, vibration, and heat. SSD = expensive, fast storage, with no vibration or noise with minimal heat and power consumption. SSD speed is superior to HDDs in two respects; they write 3 to 5 times faster and have seek times that are hundreds of times faster then a HDD. Current gen SSD's have a long life, probably much longer than you'd ever keep your laptop unless you do constant large read/writes to it 24/7.
TYPE OF SSD USED IN THE ENVY 14:
160GB = Intel X-25M G2 (Trim supported)
256GB = Samsung MMDOE56G5MXP-0VB (Trim supported on some. HP shipping also firmware that doesn't support Trim.
12.5mm Height HDDs will NOT fit in the Envy 14. Even though the service manual says they will. A poster reported that a Samsung 1TB 12.5MM HDD did NOT fit.
See thread: http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-envy-hdx/514949-1tb-hd-install-envy-14-a.html
Memory = 4GB is sufficient for most. Two sticks is fine. You can get up to a negligible 5% performance benefit running dual channel, or two sticks of the same size and speed, as opposed to single stick. But a single stick gives the benefit of just popping in an additional RAM stick later. Otherwise, if you know you'll want 8GB later then maybe go with single 4GB.
Though, you are best to match RAM sticks as mix-match of RAM manufacturers can lead to problems.
So if you don't want to take that chance and you know you'll need more than 4GB, you may want to get it configured with 6GB or 8GB.
RAM SPECS:
1066mhz (if you have i3 or i5 CPU] or 1333 mhz (i7 CPU)
A note about RAM usage: There are not many programs that will use up the sum of 4GB. Requiring more than 4GB is reserved for multitasking of powerful programs or for multitasking very many programs at once. Adobe suite products come to mind and well as some A/V production suite programs.
Battery - The slice battery is apparently the "6 cell" battery they offer for $200 at the moment. It basically form fits the entire bottom of the laptop and is thin and gives up to an extra 100% or perhaps more battery life. No need to swap batteries as it works "smartly" with the built in 8 cell battery (59whr, 12.6 oz). Do a search at images.google.com for "envy slice battery" to see what it looks like. The trade off is that the slice adds weight (1lbs 15oz) and depth (14" x 9" x .5").
Preliminary Battery Runtime Results: (without Slice battery installed) (As executed by Stefan HT) Suggested insertion: jfk33
- WLAN = ON
- Display brightness 60%
- standby at 10%: disabled
Result: 4:10 hours
See Battery Life Log thread for posters with runtimes of 4:40 and 7hours.
Wifi - Important note (submitted by poster e14) - On the German preconfigured model 1010eg, the wifi card is Broadcom and not Intel as HP has advertised. The US version is Intel as specified (Centrino advanced N 6200).
FAN- The unit is set by default to run the fans at all times and at low speed at idle and during normal tasks. It can be disabled in BIOS. Though some users report that disabling it results in fans coming on every few seconds at medium.
Comparative of Intel CPU options [i3-i5]: (Thanks to poster "Curse the sky")
Compare Intel® Products
Comparative of Intel CPU options [i7 quad cores]:
Compare Intel® Products,
IMPORTANT INFORMATION ABOUT CPU THROTTLING ON BATTERY IN THE ENVY 14: - submitted by poster Aleckazee
The processor is able to run at full speed when on battery not like on the Envy 15 where it would be limited to 1.2GHz.
Proof: http://forum.notebookreview.com/6421176-post2308.html scroll down and you will see it.
NOTE ABOUT i7 Processors: They do not allow for switchable graphics. Only dedicated. Therefore a unit outfitted with an i7 processor will consume more power and shorten battery life.
NOTE ABOUT i3-370M Processor: (Contributed by Bronsky and Protiod) Unlike the i5 and i7, the i3's thermal maximum is 90 DegC (unlike 105 for i5/i7). Real world use would not see temps reach that high. But during CPU stressing, it can.
Intel® Core? i3-370M Processor (3M cache, 2.40 GHz) with SPEC Code(s) SLBUK - see i3 when not soldered (in a socket).
http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-...hp-envy-14-owners-lounge-291.html#post6452787 - discussion of i3 temp max.
Potential CPU WHINE Fix: (If you experience this anomaly, try one or both of the following)
- Turn Bluetooth off.
- Turn the mic(s) off. See here for a guide: http://forum.notebookreview.com/6347979-post1478.html
CPU Whine information and test procedure - by poster M.to.walker
http://forum.notebookreview.com/6492940-post8941.html
JJB's SSD tweak also helped some that have whine and an SSD.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/har...-intel-series-4-5-965-chipsets-jjb-tweak.html Discussion of SSDs: by poster "Curse the Sky"
Warning: Do not touch MSCONFIG processor settings!
If you touch the #of processor settings in MSCONFIG/boot/advanced options you will get false # of Core/Thread readings in CPU-Z.
It will also lock your processor at one core and it will run at max speed.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/6407652-post1159.html
Today's solid-state drives: The value perspective - The Tech Report - Page 1 submitted by poster dirtymaf
A few general tips for those getting an SSD and want to eek out a few more free GB, plus how to setup - by poster HTwingnut.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/6454980-post6010.html
Slice Battery Info:
HP Envy Slim Fit Extended-Life Notebook Battery 6 Cell, 62Whr that weighs 1 pound 15 oz. Dim. 14" x 9" x .5" Part number: 602410-001
(The standard main internal battery: 8cell, 59whr, 12.6 oz).
Picture of Slice and confirmation of its weight - by poster alaskajoel:
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd71/alaskajoel/P1000633.jpg
A short video review showing slice battery:
YouTube - HP Envy 14
Touch Pad Information: Submitted by poster e14
The user manual of the Envy 14 shows that the touchpad is NOT the new buttonless/hingeless 4-point synaptics hardware, its the same old clickpad from previous envies that has a hinge and 2 physical buttons.
Example of what the new type of Synaptics touchpad can be seen here for comparison: Synaptics Introduces Four-Finger Multi-Touch and MacBook Style TouchPads - Laptop News - TrustedReviews
USER AND SERVICE MANUAL:
User manual (uploaded by erathostenes):
en-US_manual_595071-001a.pdf - HP Envy 14 Manual - BADONGO
HP Notebook Reference Guide:
http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c02178460.pdf
Service/Maintenance Manual (thanks to poster wall of voodoo):
http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c02835360.pdf
OWNER CONTRIBUTIONS:
Unboxing Pictures:
- by poster erathostenes
Picasa-Webalben - Jonathan Meyer - Envy 14
-by poster aclbosox
Picasa Web Albums - Andrew Loomis - HP Envy 14
-by poster magusdraco
HP ENVY 14 UNBOXING + FIRST IMPRESSIONS [NEW][UPDATED] | waffleTech
-by poster Tornbacchus
Picasa Web Albums - 10195610063071233... - Envy 14 Pictures
Video by poster fatskiratski -
YouTube - Unboxing of the HP Envy 14
Video by poster hellfire88
YouTube - HP Envy 14 Unboxing
Unboxing of BEATS edition - by poster wynand32
YouTube - HP Envy 14 Beats Edition Unboxing
REVIEWS:
OFFICIAL REVIEWS:
HP ENVY 14 Review
HP ENVY 14 Review - SlashGear - contributed by poster swg1251
HP Envy 14 review -- Engadget - contributed by TOYSTER17 and asdad123
HP Envy 14 Review - A Review of the HP Envy 14 - contributed by poster jsanjose
HP Envy 14 Review & Rating | PCMag.com - contributed by poster hp_dv2000_t
Page Not Found: Computer Shopper contributed by markik and nu_D
Review HP Envy 14-1010eg Notebook - Notebookcheck.net Reviews - contributed by Thanatos 82
USER REVIEWS:
Review in progress (compilation of impressions, benchmarks and photos by posters erathostenes, StefanHT and ademmer):
http://forum.notebookreview.com/6421176-post2308.html
FIRST LOOK VIDEO: by erathostenes
YouTube - HP Envy 14 - a first look.
A short video review showing slice battery:
YouTube - HP Envy 14
Review blog - submitted by poster DV_2000_t
The HP Envy 14 – a solid laptop by anyone’s standards | Geek with Laptop
User review - by poster dannybht
http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-...hp-envy-14-owners-lounge-727.html#post6479446 Pics: Picasa Web Albums - danny tran - envy 14
Hands on user review/Blog entry by poster TornBacchus
Full HP Envy Review + Hands On | waffleTech
More comprehensive review (With pics, benches, comparisons) by Tornbacchus
- http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-...4-review-pictures-benchmarks-comparisons.html
User Review - by poster Butr0sButr0s
http://forum.notebookreview.com/6485031-post8029.html
User Review - poster wracky
HP Envy 14 Review wracky.net
User review w/Linux- poster xfocus
HP Envy 14 – A Love Story | B to the Log
Excellent video review/Initial impressions by poster hellfire88
YouTube - HP Envy 14 Initial Impressions
Video of Keyboard Flex - by poster thanatos82
YouTube - Envy 14 keyboard flex! and YouTube - Envy 14 Keyboard Flex 2
Whole keyboard with flex - posted by dphino - YouTube - Keyboard Flexing Envy 14
IMPORTANT NOTE: It appears that a fair number of owners are reporting CPU whine.
Varies from subtle high pitched whir to annoyingly loud whine. While others report no whine at all. YMMV
Coupon codes:
*THREAD RULES*: (Be sure to read) http://forum.notebookreview.com/6460481-post5729.html
CashBack and Rebate Programs: (suggested by poster octalon7 and PeterDLai)
Fatwallet: HP Coupons and 3% Additional Cash Back
HP student discount: HP® Official Store — Sign Up Now: Student and teacher discounts on HP Laptops, Notebook PCs, Desktop PCs, Printers, Digital Cameras, Handhelds and more with the Academic Purchase Program (APP) - HP Home & Home Office Store
Ebates: HP Home Coupon Codes - find coupons, online rebates and discounts for HP Home
Mr. Rebates: Mr. Rebates - Cash-Back Rebate Shopping at over 2000 Stores
Ebay Bucks: eBay Bucks: Frequently Asked Questions
Special student phone in price adjustment for Win7 Pro heads up contributed by ChemE
If you are a student you can call HP and let them know that Microsoft is offering Windows 7 Professional for $29.99.
They should credit you the difference of ~$90 if you purchased it as CTO or offer it to you at this price if you are in the process of configuring.
You will need to direct them to one of the following websites as proof:
Microsoft Student - Windows 7
Microsoft Student - all the best Microsoft student discounts, programs, and products
GUIDES, DRIVERS, SOFTWARE:
HP Laptop out of the box GUIDE
Link suggested by DrPterodactyl
Want to know what to do when you get you Envy?
NOTE: Windows 7 product code is located inside, under the battery.
1. How to do a clean install?
What bloatware is included or needs to/can be removed?
http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-...-hp-laptop-out-box-guide-2-0-windows-7-a.html
Win7 Clean install tutorial (step by step)- Clean Install Windows 7 - How to Perform a Clean Installation of Windows 7 - Part 1 of 3 - submitted by donut3
Free Windows 7 legal download links: http://forum.notebookreview.com/win...-7-download-links-just-like-vista-before.html
NOTE: You can only use the same version as the one that came with your notebook
2. How to setup the touch pad -
Configuration by JJB
http://forum.notebookreview.com/6468855-post6307.html
- Addedndum for latest driver: http://forum.notebookreview.com/6503991-post9970.html
Trackpad and hands interfere with each other significantly and PalmCheck isn't perfect while you're typing. Solved with TouchFreeze:
TouchFreeze-1.0.2.msi - Project Hosting on Google Code - submitted by poster ColdHeat
TouchFreeze-1.0.2.msi - touchfreeze - TouchFreeze-1.0.2.msi - Project Hosting on Google Code
Still the problem of right clicking? Solved by using Two Finger Scroll: Project Hosting on Google Code - submitted by poster ColdHeat
two-finger-scroll - Project Hosting on Google Code
Best option for the trackpad is a program called EvnyTouchPad by poster Reil:
Free File Hosting Made Simple - MediaFire
Latest version: envyTouchPad.exe
You can read about it in this thread: http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-envy-hdx/502589-e14-trackpad-discussion-only.html
USING THE ENTIRE TOUCHPAD TO CLICK DOWN like on a MACBOOK:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-envy-hdx/563068-hp-envy-14-click-touchpad.html
Note: Need to use your original touchpad drivers that came from HP else it won't work.
See this thread also : http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-envy-hdx/563791-definitive-guide-envy-trackpad.html
3. Website to assist in brightness/contrast adjustment: Contrast - Lagom LCD test
4. Audio Output Tweak - by poster JJB (works with Envy 14): http://forum.notebookreview.com/5668647-post3614.html
5. How to do a MINIMAL Recovery Image Install (alternative to clean install that gets rid of bloatware):
By poster hapbeeboy - http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-...-owners-lounge-part-deux-273.html#post6590288
6. Need to make a second set of recovery disks?
http://forum.notebookreview.com/6595871-post2816.html
Drivers Thread and Discussion: by poster justinkw1
Driver Thread: http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-drivers-software-forum/496027-drivers-hp-envy-14-intel.html
HP's entire Softpaq library FTP directory: (Compliments of 2.0) ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/softpaq/
Latest ATI Video Driver form on AMD's homepage: Global Provider of Innovative Graphics, Processors and Media Solutions | AMD
SSD Setup and tweaks
http://forum.notebookreview.com/6454980-post6010.html - by poster Htwingnut.
Link also above under SSD discussion.
Solution for slow 4K R/W speeds on PM55 chipset - by poster JJB
http://forum.notebookreview.com/har...-full-advantage-fast-ssds-63.html#post6699987
http://forum.notebookreview.com/har...-intel-series-4-5-965-chipsets-jjb-tweak.html
RECOMMENDED FREE SYSTEM SOFTWARE LIST:
BatteryBar - Perhaps the most accurate battery runtime estimator: Osiris Development - BatteryBar, the most accurate battery meter for Windows
CPU-Z - processor information and status: CPUID - System & hardware benchmark, monitoring, reporting
HWMonitor - system temperature monitor: CPUID - System & hardware benchmark, monitoring, reporting
GPU-Z - GPU temperature and status monitor: GPU-Z Video card GPU Information Utility
SIW - System information for Windows: SIW | Download
Karen's Time Sync - Synchronize computer's clock to one of the many ultra-precise time servers available on the Internet:
Karen's Time Sync
DPC Latency Checker - tool that analyzes the capabilities of a computer system to handle real-time Audio and video streams properly:
DPC Latency Checker
Microsoft Security Essentials (anti-virus, malware and spyware protection) : http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials/
Luxand Blink - Facial recognition and login software: - (submitted by poster ggrayson): Luxand - Blink! - Login to Your PC by Simply Looking at It!
Synaptics Scrybe - Gesture workflows. (submitted by poster nrq007)
Learn - SYNAPTICS | Scrybe
FOR SSD/HDD BENCHMARKING AND DETAILED INFO:
AS SSD Benchmark - Alex Intelligent Software - Downloads: AS SSD Benchmark
ATTO benchmark - Download ATTO Disk Benchmark v2.34 | techPowerUp
HD TUNE - HD Tune website
Crystal Disk Info (drive life, Trim support, SMART, etc) - CrystalDiskInfo - Software - Crystal Dew World
* POST CLEAN INSTALL - *
Missing that volume OSD?
Well it's part of MediaSmart. Don't want to use MEDIASMART just for a buggy Volume OSD?
Then download 3RVX - thanks to JJB
3RVX: Skinnable Beautiful Volume Indicator For Windows 7
With Envy Skin: 3rvx25 and envy skin.zip or 3rvx25_and_envy_skin.zip
To uninstall the original on screen volume display, uninstall HP mediasmart smartmenu or Quickplay software.
Can't get the Realtek Ethernet driver to install?
Plug in ethernet cable that's connected to a network or computer. Try to install, let it fail(it will), then put the computer to sleep. Then wake it and it will finish installing correctly.
Solution discovered by poster MagusDraco.
Like the HP Stardock? Meh. Here's one better: ROCKETDOCK - About RocketDock - RocketDock.com
Wifi Light stays blue? In SWSetup folder - find and install HPQL, reboot.
Forgot to backup swsetup folder? Here's the HPQL uploaded by Magusdraco:
HPQL.zip
Mute light not changing color? Install IDT High Definition Audio driver.
See Justin's driver thread or HP driver downloads for it.
Trouble updating BIOS? - discovered by shoalinX
-Download .7z file ( http://sites.google.com/site/androidfilez/SP49493.7z). This has a modified Config file.
1.Download the bios sp file
2.extract the sp file to a folder(normally goes to C:\SWSetup\SP49999\)
3.extract the winflash file using 7zip.
4. open the config file labeled "platform.ini"
4a. find [ForceFlash] and All=0. change All=1. save and close
5. run InsydeFlash
HP tools partition is NOT required.
Updating ATI Video Driver?
You need to install HP's ATI graphics drivers first, then you can install ATI latest over it.
This is because the HP driver has what is necessary for switchable graphics.
See this driver install guide by poster HTwingnut: http://forum.notebookreview.com/6582113-post2587.html
Forgot to save Original Wallpaper?
You can download it here (uploaded by poster Tornbaccus): Envy 14 Wallpapers.rar
Want the original theme back? - Thanks to poster nrq007
Stardock MyColors Notebook Desktop Themes HP Envy 15-1050nr Notebook PC - HP Customer Care (United States - English)
RECOMMENDED COMMERCIAL SYSTEM SOFTWARE LIST:
LINUX on the ENVY 14
Windows 7 system recovery ISO
If you get startup problems and don't have a retail or OEM Windows 7 disk, you can use the following startup repair/system recovery option.
It's a downloadable ISO that just contains Windows 7 startup repair for 32 and 64bit versions.
Download Windows 7 System Recovery Discs — The NeoSmart Files
Guide to replace optical drive with HDD. By poster gertch
http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-...-14-replacing-slot-loading-optical-drive.html
And lastly...
SANITY CHECK - posted by ciaol611
From: xkcd: Online Package Tracking
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NEED TO RETURN YOUR HP NOTEBOOK? You've got 21 days from day of delivery* to do so.
*Day of delivery means day it's delivered to your address.
From HP's Website: (Thanks to poster Butr0sButr0s)
To process a return or exchange
We only accept returns for orders placed with the HP Home & Home Office Store by phone or online. We can not accept returns or exchanges for the HP Parts Store, the HP Small & Medium Business Store, repairs, or any other online store or retail outlet.
Returns requests can be initiated by phone, or for many products by online chat.
Step 1: Request a return material authorization number (RMA)
* Call 1-888-650-1544 or use online chat (details below).
* An RMA is required for all returns and exchanges.
Step 2: Print your Return Label
* You will promptly receive an email notification from FedEx that your HP Home & Home Office pre-paid return shipping label is available.
* Follow the enclosed link to FedEx and print the label as soon as possible. This label will expire 5 days after issuance.
Step 3: Prepare your package for return.
* Replace the product in its original packaging, making sure to include all items originally in the box
* Remove, mark-out, or cover any original shipping labels and affix the new label
* Write in bold letters on the package: "RMA [your return material authorization number]". For example: RMA R123456789
* Take the package to any FedEx package drop-off location within 5 calendar days of the RMA issuance.
Simple as that.
NEED TO CONTACT HP? The "Consumer Resolution Line" 888-227-8451
TEAM ENVY USER BARS: - by poster Tornbachus
Right click them for the URL, then paste the URL into your sig surrounded by image tags.
BE sure to read forum rules about sigs for you don't get in trouble.
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BY poster ademmer -
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Link to Original Owner's lounge: http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-envy-hdx/493715-official-hp-envy-14-owners-lounge.html
Link to Owners Lounge Part Deux: http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-...14-envy-14-beats-owners-lounge-part-deux.html
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Starting again since the other thread was too large. Something which might have scared off new posters.
Try to make new posters feel welcome so they use the lounge instead of starting new threads.
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MagusDraco Biiiiiiirrrrdmaaaaaaan
and then there was a new owner's lounge.
also, I had to reformat my envy 14.
never install visual basic pro 2005 onto windows 7.
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Wow, part three already.
Is there gonna be another thread for the next (possible) refresh? -
If and when a refresh comes out, you betcha.
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Hope the refresh won't disappoint!
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is the GPU on the 14 upgradeable?
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MagusDraco Biiiiiiirrrrdmaaaaaaan
no. it's part of the motherboard
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MagusDraco Biiiiiiirrrrdmaaaaaaan
oh hey. The latest GPU-Z shows voltage for the GPU on my envy.
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Try playing a game. Go back to GPU-z. Does it show 1V? When overclocking or playing games, AMD GPU Clock tool reports 1V for my i7 envy
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MagusDraco Biiiiiiirrrrdmaaaaaaan
0.95 Volts.
also amd gpu clock tool won't work on my radeon 5650 (like most/all CTO1000s)
I'm guessing they made the cards a little bit better/got higher binned cards after some people returned/had envies which couldn't game at 450/800 due to being volted way too low.
Whatever. It happens. And my computer works well enough for me gpu wise.
I mean at least mine isn't one of those CTO1000s that crashes when gaming after a couple of hours (at least 2 people got one of those on this board). -
i wish we didnt have to overclock and could just up the voltage to stock...
damn you timelineX damn you..
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MagusDraco Biiiiiiirrrrdmaaaaaaan
well in the end I don't even bother to OC. It works well enough at 450/800 for my needs.
I mean if I could OC like a timeline 3820TG I would but only going up to 550/800 is like..3 or 4 fps which usually doesn't make or break games for me. -
MagusDraco Biiiiiiirrrrdmaaaaaaan
man.
I cannot get the correct ICC profile to stay set for my envy 14.
I don't want the blue tint again.
Totally forgot how to make the ICC profile stay after a reboot.
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Need help with audio trough HDMI.
Worked before, but now I can't find the hdmi audio output speakers list. Theres no change when I plugin and unplug itI have made some drivers updates and so on recently.
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MagusDraco Biiiiiiirrrrdmaaaaaaan
well if you updated the video card stuff you could have accidentally gotten rid of the hdmi audio drivers.
I know ATI stopped putting them in their packages. You have to hold them over from the HP packages/and earlier ATI package (usually just the HP packages. I know the 10.6/10.7 package has 'em 8.742.1 or something) -
Does anyone know if Hp is shipping out ssd's with trim support now. I've read that it's been hit or miss for some shipments a few months ago but I haven't read about anything changing regarding that. I'm asking because I'm exchanging my i720qm/radiance for an i580m/256 ssd and I wanna make sure it's going to be worth it.
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Hello again! I just bought my HP envy 14 and so far it has been great. I went to best buy and found an open box envy 14 which according to geek squad have been reset to factory specs. I am having 2 issues that I am concerned about and was wondering if this is a problem for any of you guys.
1. The fan is a bit louder than my previous del laptop. I can tolerate it but not sure if the loudness is within "normal" range of sound. All I can say is that my old dell would get this loud only after leaving it on my bed for a few hours.
2. This is what bugs me the most and will determine whether I need to return this thing or not. I place my left index finger or thumb on the left click pad and use my right index finger to move the mouse cursor. At this point, I am in contact with two different parts of the mouse sensor pad. When I open a new page or program the cursor part is no where near as sensitive as it should be. I could move in a clockwise motion with my finger and the cursor would skip around in random directions. This is not an issue if I take my left finger off the click portion of the mouse pad. I dont know about you guys but i like to keep one finger on the left button at all times but in doing so, I cant move the cursor around. Is it defective? -
I would like to add that this does not occur every single time but frequent enough that I can reproduce it.
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MagusDraco Biiiiiiirrrrdmaaaaaaan
the touchpad/clickpad on the envy 14 is rather...well...finicky is putting it nicely.
there's some updates to drivers that can help (the latest one you can set a palmcheck area where it should register taps outside that area but you can't get a true deadzone really).
there's some third party software to make two finger scrolling work better too.
anyway the issue with two fingers on it is that the touchpad things you're finger is in two places at once and gets confused. It can register more than one finger but it doesn't move well if you just have a finger sitting there.
it's annoying but there's not much you can do, just how the touchpad is made.
huh...just tried out messing with the newer drivers and the advanced palmcheck is actually pretty good if you set it up right (too good possibly).
you can turn off touch and tapping in a certain area (and if you set the filter activation time to zero it's kinda just turned off outside the zone forever)
you have to update to the latest drivers and it's not perfect of course (it's inactive time so *shrugs* it'll still depend a bit on where your finger is but as long as you don't move it too far up it should just ignore the thumb on the button.
You need to download the latest windows update drivers and mess around in the touchpad settings.
I added two pictures to this post. If your drivers don't have these options you need to update your touchpad drivers. If the screen looks nothing like this then you've updated to the latest latest drivers (the ones that showed up oh, a week ago at most) and those don't have this function anymore, at least not explicitly.
edit: keep in mind that you need to set the filter activate time to 0 and no action in that area will make stuff happen UNTIL you start moving the mouse.
If you move your finger from above down into that area it'll act like it was before. So, if you move your thumb some it could still trigger stuff while using the touchpad. This stuff is mainly to stop accidentally moving the cursor around while typing (but it does work in making a pseudo-deadzone down at the buttons)Attached Files:
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So sad. Samsung's 9-series notebook has a true clickpad.
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MagusDraco Biiiiiiirrrrdmaaaaaaan
reil's thing tries to 2 finger scroll and either can't or does. oh well -
With the alternate driver, as long as you are holding down the click, you can move two fingers separately. Also, instead of using one finger to click and one to point, you can just use one to point and click.
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MagusDraco Biiiiiiirrrrdmaaaaaaan
that's fine if you have to click something (and is generally how I've always used a touchpad, just use my index finger while my hand is kinda over it, push it down if I need to click..or just tap.).
otherwise I type and my thumbs kinda brush the top left and top right edges.
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Hey guys quick question.
For whatever reason I can't play video with the lid closed. I set the option to "do nothing" but when I close the lid with video going, it stops for a second, and then only sound continues while the picture is still frozen. Any solutions? Thanks a lot!
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MagusDraco Biiiiiiirrrrdmaaaaaaan
all I know is that when I close my lid it'll swap to a new set of video settings.
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Hmm. My video freezes up for a fraction of a second, then keeps playing. Using VLC here, i7 envy, HDMI -> TV
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At first i wasn't sure which laptop to get but now i'm getting the envy 14 beats edition as it is FINALLY available online for configuration!
I would have gotten the envy if there wasn't the flowery thing on it but now that there's the beats edition this made my decision...
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How come I wont get notified about the Service Pack 1 update for Windows 7? Ive got the legitimate copy that came installed on the my Envy.
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MagusDraco Biiiiiiirrrrdmaaaaaaan
I never had it show up in my windows 7 (professional) but it downloaded and installed fine when I did it manually.
'course, I might of just not noticed it -
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are there any reviews for hp envy beats? I mean a user review like the regular envy?
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Long time lurker, first time poster here. Finally bit on a refurb envy 14 with Radiance for under 1k
. Only problem is that its a french KB layout. Has anyone done a KB swap for this thing? And how easy/difficult is it?
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MagusDraco Biiiiiiirrrrdmaaaaaaan
it's not as hard as it COULD be.
but it is a little bit involved and you could accidentally tear the keyboard cables (plural) one for the keyboard itself, one for the backlight.
one of them (or both) are double-sided taped somewhere.
go check the maintenance guide (search for it on the first post) for instructions that are good (but not perfect since HP's maintenance guides tend to have one or two things missing, in this case the double sided tape) -
*yawn* Just waking up for a long NBR forums hibernation. My friends E14 has some serious issues, what does he need to do to initiate the warranty process?
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MagusDraco Biiiiiiirrrrdmaaaaaaan
sacrifice his first laptop to the computer gods in the sky.
also uh, is he in the US?
866-408-5408
have your product ID and serial number stuff (fn+esc if he hasn't gotten rid of the quicklaunch stuff and/or run the hp support assistant if he has) ready.
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Have lived with the HP Envy 14 for 6 months, I feel I would like to share my opinions:
As MAc for me was out of the question and I wanted a small but solid (and cool) laptop, I went for this one.
What a let down! Screen format, useless (my fault, but anyway..) Why so wide? (All reviews at that time were touting the Radiance screen, which was not available when I ordered...
Touchpad; worse than describe elsewhere. Extremely useless, now lugging a mouse with me.
Build quality, feels solid, but HD failure after 1 week, then was returned with a dent. Keyboard flex.
Battery, not great, slice hard to get and too expensive.
After some time with HP products, this was the last for me, either go cheaper (dell) or buy Lenovo.
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I must admit, the Trackpad on the Evy machines is an acquired taste, but then again once you get used to using one finger you can complete Plants Vs Zombies.
You either get a lemon, or you don't. Shame that you did -
I've had mine since September and I have to say I'm very impressed and couldn't be happier! It's so sad that some people got lemons and as a result are turned off of HP forever
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I don't have an issue with the trackpad anymore. I used to not be able to keep one finger on the buttons and move my finger around but now after messing with the drivers and turning off two finger scroll I'm able to use the trackpad perfectly. I don't even use the reil app anymore. I have some pretty bad keyboard flex which annoys me but I'm giving back this laptop because they broke my radiance at repair and getting a new envy 14 with an i580/6gb/256gb ssd all for under $950. I personally wouldn't pay anywhere near HP's actual price for this laptop because its not yet ready to compete with other high end laptops at that price point. But for under $1000 I think its a pretty solid laptop.
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lol I guess I never had many problems with the trackpad because I never have a finger resting on it. My experience with this computer has been excellent. I really hope this machine has been built to last, because I hope to be using it for a few years at least.
*HP ENVY 14 & ENVY 14 Beats (1XXX series) Owners Lounge, Part III*
Discussion in 'HP' started by 2.0, Mar 24, 2011.